Originally Posted by involuntary_serf
Cute. I have no idea who the hell you're addressing. It looks a lot like a caricature you've fabricated in your mind.
That said, I'll address a couple points you left hanging out there:
Personally, I disagree. I used to believe this. I no longer do.
I seriously disagree here. Liberties are being taken away almost daily. Starting with the large scale confiscation of people's property.
Perhaps you should define what your idea of freedom, liberty and tyranny are so that we can be more clear in what you are saying.
Finally you fail to notice your own use of rhetoric to marginalize people as treasonous because they don't share your love and admiration of the U.S. government.
Sorry but he's totally right about this. Fear is a tool that's been used well by the Neocons in recent years to get their way. How many terror alerts did we have that didn't amount to anything? I have never owned a gun and feel totally safe without one. The idea that it would solve anything is wrong. Mostly in exchanges with private parties it makes matters worse. Guns are an invention that are in a class by themselves.
You never read about a knife or baseball bat going astray and killing an innocent bystander.
Let me tell you a little story. Back in 1981 my two cousins first and second ( Debbie and John ) were purely due to chance sitting in the same bar called " The Oregon Museum ". A guy broke up with his girlfriend that day and decided to take it out on a bar full of people ( the girlfriend wasn't there ).
He came in and opened up and shot many people. Debbie was sitting at the bar and heard something like a fire cracker. She felt a hot pain in her leg. John was standing behind someone who was watching the gunman. The guy in front of John dove to the floor and John caught it in the head. One of my coworkers was also there that night ( Barb ). She had just started talking to an old boyfriend that she hadn't seen in years. He fell right in her lap.
Debbie's wound wasn't so bad. The exit wound in her leg was about the size of a half dollar. Yes there's a scar.
I went to John's funeral. His mother was never the same as she had lost her husband to a heart attack a few years before. I have fond memories of John.
I used to go over to their farm when I was a kid and play with John and ride their horse " Stormy ".
Barb had to get counseling for seeing her old flame drop dead in her lap.
I was not there. I heard this story on the news and second hand from Debbie, Barb, and bystanders.
This sort of thing is what's wrong with private gun ownership.
If we have a breakdown of goverment and total anarchy a hand gun in my desk drawer won't amount to much.
Here's some photos : http://photos.salemhistory.net/cdm4/...OBOX1=shooting
Yes that's Dick Van Dyke's son. He used to be our DA.