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OK. These displays of whatever now have their own thread.

They gather in parks created with public funds to decry "socialism"...

The governor of Texas has now suggested Texans may want to secede...

Tea party in front of White House throws box onto WH lawn...

At one party they called for the burning of books...

They carry signs saying "Join or die"...

They try to dump tea bags (a million of them) without permits. (sounds very well organized here)
And, in the heart of all the voice, Washington, DC, they managed an amazing display of 1500 people.

A chant at one "party": "To hell with the Left" USA! USA! USA!
(what is the USA, again?)

Among others...

 

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These displays of whatever

They were displays of frustration and anger over the increasing burdens of taxes, spending and debt brought about by a corrupt and morally bankrupt federal government.

You know, in the past, people have killed and disposed of their leaders for far lower levels of taxation that we now have in this country.


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The governor of Texas has now suggested Texans may want to secede...

Good for them. I hope they actually do it. I'd consider moving there if they did. Of course, any state that peacefully tries to secede will be met with the the full force and violence of the federal government who clearly has no intention of letting anyone have any such freedom. I'm mean, for goodness sake, Iraq and Afghanistan are still trying to secede from the U.S. federal government.
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Its all part and parcel of the hate-mongering right wing self-centered media-driven madness that will try as hard as it can to sew discord in the US, it did it under Clinton and its results were the Oklahoma City Bombing and wasted money on an endless trial and they'll do it now even though probably 99% of those involved who are not direct party operatives will be getting tax cuts.
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Been watching the news and scanning the blogs for pictures about the tea parties.

What a joke. What an embarrassment for Fox News that hardly anyone showed up. Hilarious! In fact Cavuto off cam was guessing the turn out at one of the "tea parties" to be 5,000 (more like hoping it was close to that). Of course, on cam he magically tripled it to 15,000.

Now of the people that did show up....the racism, the hatred and the ignorance was just mind blowing. We should start a thread of pics of the "tea partiers" and their retarded signs just for future embarrassment and laughs.
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Nice about the DC parties:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041503177.html

Some pics here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_186752.html

Wow. Impressed by some of the placards; what a group of intelligent people who truly care about the country! I sooooo wanted to join their cause!

And Fox, which had been promoting the parties for a while, suddenly backed off, a little: they still had lots of announcers and personalities out. Embarrassment, pure and simple.

What a hate-fest.

 

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post #6 of 207
I ditched Fox News a while ago so didn't see any of their promotion, until tonight, on The Daily Show.

How embarrassing for Fox.
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Now of the people that did show up....the racism, the hatred and the ignorance was just mind blowing. We should start a thread of pics of the "tea partiers" and their retarded signs just for future embarrassment and laughs.

Saw one picture with a guy holding a sign, forget what the words were, but the drawing showed a white hand holding out some cash and a black hand reaching for it.

Disturbing, not surprising but disturbing anyway.
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Corporate sponsored hate fest where these middle-class tax-cut recipients are puppets to the rich media moguls


Too bad I didn't ahave a sign that read:

Be a citizen and stop your selfish whining!!
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Corporate sponsored hate fest where these middle-class tax-cut recipients are puppets to the rich media moguls


Too bad I didn't ahave a sign that read:

Be citizen and stop your selfish whining!!

It's a good thing that the corporate sponsored hate fest was a dud, there may be hope yet for the US of A.
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Funny you guys had nothing to say about the repugnant anti-war protestors but if some people express their displeasure over spending and tax policy all of a sudden it's worth starting a tread
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Funny you guys had nothing to say about the repugnant anti-war protestors but if some people express their displeasure over spending and tax policy all of a sudden it's worth starting a tread

First of all, not one anti-war protester was holding up a racist placard. Secondly, if people had listened more to the anti-war protesters (who you must admit if you're honest were right about Iraq) then we'd be in much less shit than we're in right now. Third, the anti-war protesters were not trying, as their main purpose, to get people to break the law en masse.
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First of all, not one anti-war protester was holding up a racist placard. Secondly, if people had listened more to the anti-war protesters (who you must admit if you're honest were right about Iraq) then we'd be in much less shit than we're in right now. Third, the anti-war protesters were not trying, as their main purpose, to get people to break the law en masse.

You know I went to the links provided and looked at EVERY picture there. Unless you can link, don't claim.

Second, most of the time when people are protesting the government, as they are with these matters, they are doing various iconic things with the president. Things you absolutely know you saw done with Bush and every other president. I saw Obama as Urkel, Obama as Hitler, etc. If they place him in these pictures and, I hate to break it to you but he does happen to be our history making first black president, and so thus a black hand is shown to be doing something, unless it is show to be doing something EXPLICITLY racist, then your IMPLICIT assumptions are nothing more than the workings of your own mind.

I welcome this thread though and look forward to seeing the lefties on this board fill it with their typical vitriol. See I want where you stand and what you think of folks like this well known. I want them to see what you think about them. Finally I want them to see the rationalization for the hate.

Let the leftist-hatefest begin!

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First of all, not one anti-war protester was holding up a racist placard.

Riiiiigh

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Secondly, if people had listened more to the anti-war protesters (who you must admit if you're honest were right about Iraq) then we'd be in much less shit than we're in right now.

One could say the same thing about budget and taxes.


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Third, the anti-war protesters were not trying, as their main purpose, to get people to break the law en masse.


Riiiiigh
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What a joke. What an embarrassment for Fox News that hardly anyone showed up. Hilarious! In fact Cavuto off cam was guessing the turn out at one of the "tea parties" to be 5,000 (more like hoping it was close to that). Of course, on cam he magically tripled it to 15,000.

Well I don't know what Fox News was covering (nor do I care). But in Denver: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12152080

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State Patrol troopers monitoring the rally at the Capitol estimated the crowd size at more than 5,000 people.

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Now of the people that did show up....the racism, the hatred and the ignorance was just mind blowing. We should start a thread of pics of the "tea partiers" and their retarded signs just for future embarrassment and laughs.

I'll start:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/liv...EAPARTY~p1.JPG

What's great is this picture also captures the the racism, the hatred and the ignorance too!


The left's reaction to even the idea of these tax protests is quite telling. They cannot even fathom that people might not like paying taxes and paying for more and more bailouts and piling up more and more debt and for bigger and bigger government. It doesn't even compute for them.
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Or...maybe it's that the left has some twisted view that only the left (and people that agree with them) can stage legitimate protests.

What I'm really waiting to happen (and I've already started to hear hints of it in relation to the talk about the Texas secession thing) is the charges of un-patriotism and statements along the lines of "America love it or leave it!" from the left.

You see now that they are in charge, America is great again (pffft) and they cannot imagine why anyone would be upset. The cognitive dissonance must be causing headaches.

What's even more interesting is that the left seems (suddenly) incapable of comprehending the idea of being opposed to the policies and actions of the government without being opposed to American as a nation and an ideal. This is a remarkable turn around in their thinking, perhaps exposing them for the hypocritical partisans that they are (as much as the right can be) while all the while claiming it is only the right that hold these traits.
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Well I don't know what Fox News was covering (nor do I care). But in Denver: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12152080


I'll start:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/liv...EAPARTY~p1.JPG

What's great is this picture also captures the the racism, the hatred and the ignorance too!


The left's reaction to even the idea of these tax protests is quite telling. They cannot even fathom that people might not like paying taxes and paying for more and more bailouts and piling up more and more debt and for bigger and bigger government. It doesn't even compute for them.

I'll help by starting the racist insinuations for them as well.

/sarcasm

See that sign that says American Pirates... well it has four people on it. We know that American Special Forces were just sent on a mission to rescue the American boat captain and in doing so killed three out of the four pirates they engaged.

So really, that sign is advocating the shooting of Barack Obama by calling him a pirate and thus you are racist for even linking to it.

This is just another example of hateful right-wing extremist speech that incites violence.

That sign is demanding they kill the president!
/end sarcasm

See how that works too?

In reality I love that sign and the emphasis on monopoly money through out the protests is just spot on!

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post #17 of 207
Well here's something really dumb :

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...sion-possible/

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Texas governor says secession possible

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Should Texas one day secede, one man may already be vying to be its president. Actor Chuck Norris said last month he may be interested in the post.

“I may run for president of Texas,” Norris wrote in a column posted at WorldNetDaily. “That need may be a reality sooner than we think. If not me, someone someday may again be running for president of the Lone Star state, if the state of the union continues to turn into the enemy of the state.”


So some day we'll have to send an ambassador to Texas to talk to Chuck Norris!

Geez!
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post #19 of 207
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The left's reaction to even the idea of these tax protests is quite telling. They cannot even fathom that people might not like paying taxes and paying for more and more bailouts and piling up more and more debt and for bigger and bigger government. It doesn't even compute for them.

You have it backwards. (Ignoring the fact that the polls conducted this month have shown that a large majority of Americans are in favor of increasing taxes to people who make over $250k. and that most Americans think what they're paying right now is fair.)
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/04...y4947073.shtml


The fact is that 99.9% of those tools that did come out to protest will be paying less taxes because i highly doubt many of them make more than $250,000 a year. How quickly do the far right gullible people forget the surplus Bush inherited and how quickly they forget the trillion dollars thrown down the toilet in Iraq.

How hilarious it is that they are "protesting" something that actually benefits them. The ultimate irony being that they were protesting slightly higher taxes for the richest of Americans and not them.

Tea bag day was a colossal failure even with the 24/7 Fox "News" infomercial. I'm loving what a shrinking minority party is being reduced to.
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262k and counting....



Thank you for pointing out what a colossal failure that was. I'm guessing the "and counting" part refers to Fox tripling, err adjusting their figures?
post #21 of 207
I'm sure more people would have gone, but they had to work. Millions on welfare depend on them, after all.

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I'm sure more people would have gone, but they had to work. Millions on welfare depend on them, after all.

Oh, I'm sure. So what you're saying is that the people who attended don't work? Bless them. I hope they don't lose their checks.
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polls conducted this month have shown that a large majority of Americans are in favor of increasing taxes to people who make over $250k

Breaking News: People support taxes on other people. Film at 11.
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Breaking News: People support taxes on other people. Film at 11.

Brilliant!
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Oh, I'm sure. So what you're saying is that the people who attended don't work? Bless them. I hope they don't lose their checks.

Nope I didn't say that. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps I should put a disclaimer notice in front of any statement I make that is in jest? Might make things a bit easier.

It's difficult, but try and view the people who attended these Tea Party demonstrations as individual American citizens acting of their own free (for the time being) will and choice.

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but several personal accounts I've read indicate that people of all different backgrounds, political parties, and ideologies attended.

If I take Obama at his word (which I do not, because there is no possible way he can keep it), I am among those who stand to benefit as a result of his tax policies.

Whether or not I stand to benefit is irrelevant. Furthermore, I do not want the benefit. It is blatantly unconstitutional for the government to forcibly take money away from one group of people to give to another.

Many people agree with me. More than you think.

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Good for them. I hope they actually do it. I'd consider moving there if they did. Of course, any state that peacefully tries to secede will be met with the the full force and violence of the federal government who clearly has no intention of letting anyone have any such freedom. I'm mean, for goodness sake, Iraq and Afghanistan are still trying to secede from the U.S. federal government.

Of course, Texas represents one of the best armed states in the union. Good luck trying to stop them.

But seriously, this is all to make a point. Perry supported a resolution in support of states rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This is not the same as actively seeking to secede.

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Of course, Texas represents one of the best armed states in the union. Good luck trying to stop them.

But seriously, this is all to make a point. Perry supported a resolution in support of states rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This is not the same as actively seeking to secede.

Indeed, many states have similar resolutions in the works, including my own (Arizona). I believe ours provides for secession in the event martial law is declared.

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Its all part and parcel of the hate-mongering right wing self-centered media-driven madness that will try as hard as it can to sew discord in the US, it did it under Clinton and its results were the Oklahoma City Bombing and wasted money on an endless trial and they'll do it now even though probably 99% of those involved who are not direct party operatives will be getting tax cuts.

Nope. Wrong. The neo-cons (and Fox News in particular) latched onto this like a drowning man grabbing at a life preserver... the right has no ideas and is "morally" bankrupt. The Tea Party movement was started and carried out by lefties, righties, libertarians and independents. All of the crap and opinions you see on TV and in the 'papers' happened after this thing was already self-organized.

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Nope I didn't say that. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps I should put a disclaimer notice in front of any statement I make that is in jest? Might make things a bit easier.

I got the gist of your comment. I knew you couldn't possibly be serious.

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It's difficult, but try and view the people who attended these Tea Party demonstrations as individual American citizens acting of their own free (for the time being) will and choice.

I think you forgot the tongue in cheek disclaimer.
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I know this is anecdotal evidence, but several personal accounts I've read indicate that people of all different backgrounds, political parties, and ideologies attended.

Highly doubt it. My "evidence" was based on the week long + 24/7 infomercial on Fox News, the anti-Obama signs, the rhetoric from the attendees, the signs in general, and the rhetoric of the far right wing pundits promoting this. Not to mention the RNC emails.
"For the time being"....where were you the past 8 years?

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Whether or not I stand to benefit is irrelevant. Furthermore, I do not want the benefit. It is blatantly unconstitutional for the government to forcibly take money away from one group of people to give to another.

I'm sure there's a few worthy organizations that you can donate it to. Feel free.
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Been watching the news and scanning the blogs for pictures about the tea parties.

What a joke. What an embarrassment for Fox News that hardly anyone showed up. Hilarious! In fact Cavuto off cam was guessing the turn out at one of the "tea parties" to be 5,000 (more like hoping it was close to that). Of course, on cam he magically tripled it to 15,000.

Now of the people that did show up....the racism, the hatred and the ignorance was just mind blowing. We should start a thread of pics of the "tea partiers" and their retarded signs just for future embarrassment and laughs.

I hate all things Fox, Palin, McCain and neo-con... so don't make the mistake of linking Fox with the Tea Parties.

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But seriously, this is all to make a point. Perry supported a resolution in support of states rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This is not the same as actively seeking to secede.

No question. As someone in the other thread said it's "political grandstanding". This isn't a serious idea from Perry.

I do think there is an extremely small minority in this country that would support actual secession. I think that minority is getting bigger and more vocal in the last 10 years. I'm pretty sure it won't happen in my lifetime. But I never really expected the Berlin Wall to come down and the USSR to fall apart either. So things can change and sometimes much faster than we all think.
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I'm sure there's a few worthy organizations that you can donate it to. Feel free.

I donate over 10% of my income to charity. I'd probably donate more if the government would let me keep more of it.

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Highly doubt it. My "evidence" was based on the week long + 24/7 infomercial on Fox News, the anti-Obama signs, the rhetoric from the attendees, the signs in general, and the rhetoric of the far right wing pundits promoting this. Not to mention the RNC emails.

Your source is a right-wing propaganda outlet?
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Your source is a right-wing propaganda outlet?

Hey, they claim to be fair and balanced.


Pffffft....

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Well I don't know what Fox News was covering (nor do I care). But in Denver: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12152080

I'll start:

What's great is this picture also captures the the racism, the hatred and the ignorance too!

The left's reaction to even the idea of these tax protests is quite telling. They cannot even fathom that people might not like paying taxes and paying for more and more bailouts and piling up more and more debt and for bigger and bigger government. It doesn't even compute for them.


Denver had a spectacular turnout. Santa Monica, California (as always) had a good showing also.

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Breaking News: People support taxes on other people. Film at 11.

Truer words have never been written.

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repugnant anti-war protestors

Irony, i'd like you to meet Irony. Irony, this is Irony. I'm glad you two could meet.
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I'm sure more people would have gone, but they had to work. Millions on welfare depend on them, after all.

Yeah, because that 3% of our taxes we spend on welfare is breaking our fucking backs.

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Ever heard of the expression: "the straw that broke the camel's back"?

3% of our taxes amounts to how many millions (or billions) of dollars?

Not to mention the fact that government administered welfare is unconstitutional in the first place.

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But seriously, this is all to make a point. Perry supported a resolution in support of states rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This is not the same as actively seeking to secede.

Good. I'm glad he said what he said. We'll run that tape non-stop during his re-election. It will be the gift that keeps on giving.
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