Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon.
I'm surprised you left yourself out. But if it's any consolation, you're catching me up.
(I thought you'd have at least looked up the 'meaning' of 'what's a lemon bon bon?' in the dictionary...)
Macs are overpriced in the UK. It's a fact.
Macs don't have to be 'cheap'. They have to be 'not' overpriced.
Which they are.
I'm with the 'bullseye', Marv' in this one. It's not like Macs are 'cheap'.
£900 starting price isn't cheap. £329 wintel laptop is 'cheap'.
For those incapable of seeing the 'middle' ground here (especially in this economy...) I refer you Silly Solipses great argument winner 'Aren't Apple entitled (as a greedy, 30 Billion $ in the bank) to make a profit?'.
It works everytime. In fact. I'm hoping Apple put their prices up another £1000 instead of $400 this time. That way even Melgross maybe priced out of the entry model as opposed to the 'too expensive even for him' top end model.
Do Apple need to join reality on their entry pricing? Discuss.
Lemon Bon Bon.
A certainly agree that Mac's are expensive. I don't think they're overpriced though. This is an area in which we've not only beaten the dead horse, but flayed it completely.
I don't think that Apple is greedy. I think that they do make better products, and they must pay for their service somehow.
Apple, as we've said many times, simply doesn't compete in the junk market.
Apple is a financially conservative, and prudent firm. It's been shown, by myself, and others here, that both their gross margins, and their net profits are good but not nearly excessive.
We don't know what they have in mind for the money they have, but no one here can make the claim that they know better what to do with it, though they may try.
With my daughter going to school starting this summer, in England, we asked the school whether we should buy a computer there, rather then pay the high shipping costs from here, or to bother carrying a 24" iMac.
She told us that computers and electronics, in general, were more expensive there, and even with shipping, it would be cheaper to buy it here.
I haven't yet decided how to handle that. I asked if it was mostly Macs that were more expensive (because of our discussions here about that), and she said that all computers, and electronics cost more because of VAT, and import fees the government imposes upon such products.
As far as buying my own Mac Pro went, well, I'm retired. If I still was taking work in, I would have popped for the highest config. as I've always done. Another $1,200 or so pays for itself in a couple of weeks in a "real" working environment.
I have no income from the machine these days, and so the extra $1,200 will go to a processor upgrade sometime in 2010 when the new, faster, 6 core chips are out for a bit of time. That way, I'll have the fastest config. the machine will be capable of, unless OWC, or someone else decides to make a processor board upgrade path, which is possible for this machine (I've been talking to them about that).