Originally Posted by RCO3
Harleighquinn, did I just correctly read you as saying that TeckStud attempted to maintain the high ground? I have to admit, he's been on my ignore list for months now, but if he really attempted to maintain the high ground then that will be THE FIRST TIME EVER.
Teckstud is a troll. If anyone is a lab rat who hasn't figured it out yet, it's you. Seriously. Check his history. By FAR the vast majority of his comments are either negative comments re: Apple, carefully and deliberately designed to stir up shit, or else are personal attacks that follows up someone's reaction to the shit-stirring. That is the very definition of a troll. Many trolls rationalize their behavior as "social experimentation", but they're the only ones.
I suppose it's possible that he's one of those very few unfortunates who are so socially inept and clueless that he really doesn't understand what a **** he is, but I put the chances of that at about 1 in 10,000. He knows. And you took the bait. I would question whether you were a sock puppet of his (or italiankid's), but neither of them has ever demonstrated a capability for such clear grammar and cogent thought as you've displayed. However, your conclusions are clearly based on incomplete data. HAND!
Originally Posted by GMHut
His first post was an opinion. Nothing wrong there, but it was as much a 'first shot across the bow' as it was a statement. I'll be the first to say Apple is far from perfect, somethings they do piss me off to no end, and I've posted about it. But a little bit of balance is a good thing. Here's a suggestion, maybe limit to every other 2 or three posts, but 3 in a row? Common. It's the shear number of his posts in almost every thread that turns people away. Mainly, I'd just like to hear from someone else once in while. Sure, the scroll bar on my browser works just fine, but I'd like not to have to use it so dern much in every thread to get past the guy. N'est-ce pas?
Was my post an 'attack' on him?" I guess it's hard to take it any other way. But as I said, this has turned into the Techstud Site, and it is really getting old for many. So if one puts oneself out there to that degree, and in that manner, that oftenone should enjoy the responses that one is obviously seeking.
Show us the "research" you mentioned. It's quite possibly true, but given that Apple has seperate development teams, it's far from a foregone conclusion. I'd be interested to see the data you speak of.
If by "effectively conditioned people to this kind of response," you mean flame baiting is effective, I agree. It's generally a great way to piss people off and get a great many responses.
Although he is 'entertaining' in his own way, I reserve the right to disagree with you that Timothy Leary is a great source for everyone to learn from. Acid was never my thing.
By the way, I have a cat too, she's great company. But three? The thought of all that cat hair floating around . . . well, you have my condolences on that one bud.
Timothy Leary's experiment in mob mentality, Whites against Blacks in a jail type setting, was pre-LSD
, at least for him.
My wife and I love our cats, though even I will admit 3 is too much, but we couldn't bear to eliminate any of them either.
One was adopted from the shelter, the other was purchased from friends breeding their siamese (the first is a tortoise shell american short hair: Kameko. The second is a flame point siamese: Shiro, gotten to keep her company. they got along famously the first day with no separation.....)
The third we adopted when we found her, as a 3 month old kitten, abandoned in El Yunque rainforest when visiting family in Puerto Rico on our honeymoon. She is a rag doll, with yellow eyes, and a sweet heart.
The fact is a "shot across the bow" can be ignored in the desire to maintain civility.
He was just outright attacked, with no provocation.
So what if he disagrees with Apple? Last I checked, the last regime withstanding, this was still the United States (FWIW) and we are entitled to opinions.
The issue here is the opinion was directed at no one in particular, but it elicited multiple attacks in his direction.
That is mob mentality
when it is picked up by anyone else in earshot, and followed up on in the same vein.
Intelligence is eschewed for acceptance.
As for disagreeing with apple, we have a 2.8 Mghz 24 inch iMac extreme. Guess what? It's better than the windows PCs I had to constantly administrate and repair, but it's not perfect
We both have iPhones, and my wife complains about hers every single day
But she also wants a Macbook Air, which I won't let her get. It's already been refreshed once and I'm waiting for the next model, which is inevitable.
I'm not going to google every article, from Apple Insider to Mac World, or even google news to show that the trend at apple lately has seemed to have been more a Amelio style business trend of beating us down with their latest and nearly best selling hot item, which is the iPhone, the iPod Touch, iPods, laptops, and then, finally, OS and desktops, in about that order.
Apple's entire enterprise lineup has seemed to have been fashioned to support the iPhone at this time, and it doesn't take a genius to determine from those offerings that the iPhone is their baby to be coddled until someone within Apple comes up with something to supersede it.
What ever happened to Apple TV?
I will contend his statement was apt, and his statements (Those that were not defending himself from an attack) following were also apt.
We all would do ourselves a service to recognize that truth, and if we have issue with it, let Apple know. If not, the market will define their direction, and right now, that's the iPhone.