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A parts vendor based out of Hong Kong recently updated its product catalog with a front display bezel and LCD screen that it claims will be part of Apple's third-generation iPhone and has put them up for sale. [Updated with artist's rendition of third-gen iPhone.]

"This is great honor for China Ontrade (HK) chinaontrade.com to be the 1st started to supply iPhone 3Gen 2009 parts directly from factory," reads a caption underneath images of the purported components, which are listed as being "In Stock" and ready to ship in 5-12 business days.

LCD component

Not much can be made of the LCD component, which looks strikingly similar to the LCD screen found in the current iPhone 3G with the possible exception of a slightly modified connector. A sticker with part identification numbers reads "S20907 400ER5 MWD22C," which compares part identifiers on one of the current iPhone 3G LCD panels that reads "S20826 6085KY S3A1K."

The first image below shows what appears to be an iPhone 3G LCD screen (left) side-by-side with the purported third-gen iPhone part. The second and third images are close-ups of the connector cables for the two parts while the fourth image is an authentic photo of an iPhone 3G LCD screen taken by iFixIt.

LCD component photos

iPhone 3G's LCD display (left) compared to an alleged LCD display (right) for the third-gen iPhone.

The front of the alleged third-gen iPhone LCD (left) compared to the front of a supposed iPhone 3G LCD (right).

The back of a supposed iPhone 3G LCD (left) compared to the back of an alleged third-gen iPhone LCD (right).

An authentic iPhone 3G LCD part photographed by iFixIt.

Bezel component

When it comes to the purported third-gen iPhone bezel, China Ontrade's claims become increasingly suspect. Most notably the bezel, which appears metallic black as opposed to silver like the current iPhone, ends abruptly just shy of where the iPhone's home button would lie. It would seem uncharacteristic of Apple, which is all about smooth, flowing edges, to introduce new seams on its product. However, the repositioning of the earpiece towards the top of the unit could clear the way for some additional sensors or a front-mounted camera.

Also noteworthy is that the bezel (first photo), when viewed upside down (third photo), is significantly beefier than the iPhone 3G's and appears as if it would comprise a material portion of the handset's back cover, which has traditionally been formed from a single piece of either aluminum or plastic.

Earlier this year, there were several images of a purported third-gen iPhone back cover making the rounds on the web. We've repositioned one of these images (second photo) for comparison alongside the bezel images, which highlight some inconsistencies. None of the images have been authenticated, however. A fourth photo shows an authentic iPhone 3G bezel take by IFixIt.

The bezel part is also debatable given that some of the most recent and increasingly reliable reports regarding the design of the forthcoming third-gen iPhones suggest there would not be changes of such magnitude when compared to the current iPhone 3G. China Ontrade also markets a handful of non-authentic, after-market parts for existing iPhones, making their claims subject to much skepticism.

AppleInsider republishes the photos and claims for readers' interest. An artist's rendition (last image) created by an AppleInsider forum member attempts to depict what an iPhone would look like if it indeed included such a bezel.

Bezel component photos

The front of the purported third-gen iPhone bezel.

An earlier image rumored to be the back cover of the third-gen iPhone.

An image showing the purported third-gen iPhone bezel flipped upside down.

An authentic photo of the iPhone 3Gs bezel taken by iFixIt.

An artist's rendition of an iPhone with the above bezel.
post #2 of 63
Well, looks like it's not gonna have OLED. Hopefully they'll catch up on that front in next year's revision - if Microsoft can do it, surely Apple can afford to as well.
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quick! someone piece it together with photoshop and lets see what it will look like! :x

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Well, looks like it's not gonna have OLED. Hopefully they'll catch up on that front in next year's revision - if Microsoft can do it, surely Apple can afford to as well.

They might be taking the conservative approach on that technology and waiting until it's proven it's self or at least been refined.
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Well, looks like it's not gonna have OLED. Hopefully they'll catch up on that front in next year's revision - if Microsoft can do it, surely Apple can afford to as well.

The new HD Zune made the NY papers today. HD is for a HD radio receiver and not necessarily its screen according to what I read.
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The new HD Zune made the NY papers today. HD is for a HD radio receiver and not necessarily its screen according to what I read.

what paper was it? i wanna check it out. or is it online too?
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what paper was it? i wanna check it out. or is it online too?


It was in our little local AM NY newspaper. No link - I checked. It did however state that Microsoft said this and that it is due in the fall. I like these buzz type of announcements. I really hope Apple announces the new 7- 11" whatever in June even if its not available until fall or winter like they diid with the iPhone and AppleTV way back when.
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Well, looks like it's not gonna have OLED. Hopefully they'll catch up on that front in next year's revision - if Microsoft can do it, surely Apple can afford to as well.

iLounge states

"The site does not specify what differences there are between the new iPhones screen and its predecessor, but the company lists the new screen at $73 versus $35 for the prior version."

I hope that isnt an error.
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quick! someone piece it together with photoshop and lets see what it will look like! :x



They might be taking the conservative approach on that technology and waiting until it's proven it's self or at least been refined.

OLEDs have been on the market for cell phones and other devices for quite a while. Hell, the C6 Chevrolet Corvette has an OLED display in the instrument cluster for the Driver Information Center. The C6 Corvette has been around since 2005...

I don't understand why people are so quick to downplay the technology or its acceptance in the marketplace if it doesn't make into the iPhone this time around.

As for other devices using OLED screens, here's a five-page list:

http://www.oled-info.com/devices

So I don't want to hear anymore excuses. That being said, I'm crossing my fingers that the iPhone will come with an OLED screen. I'm definitely getting one to replace my iPod touch + el cheapo LG phone.
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Well, looks like it's not gonna have OLED. Hopefully they'll catch up on that front in next year's revision - if Microsoft can do it, surely Apple can afford to as well.

The Zune HDs OLED is not HD, but the GPU can output 720p HD which means that your 720p content can be loaded and played on the devices 480x272 3.2 display and, of course, it has the HD radio receiver. That may upset a few people.
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The Zune HD’s OLED is not HD, but the GPU can output 720p HD which means that your 720p content can be loaded and played on the device’s 480x272 3.2” display and, of course, it has the HD radio receiver. That may upset a few people.

It can play native 720p content on its reduced resolution screen, but it can also take that native 720p content and play it back on a TV with its optional dock (which includes HDMI-out IIRC).

That being said, why would people be upset at having HD radio?
post #11 of 63
I'm not one to pick up on little things in articles, but this one isn't up to the usual standard in its current form; it just reads poorly - it really hit me with this one.

"inconstancies"

"it would seem uncharacteristic of Apple, which is all about smooth, flowing edges to introduce new seams on its product."
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The Zune HDs OLED is not HD, but the GPU can output 720p HD which means that your 720p content can be loaded and played on the devices 480x272 3.2 display and, of course, it has the HD radio receiver. That may upset a few people.

Why/how would an HD radio receiver upset a few people?
Do you mean people anticpating HD OLED or people dissapointed that their iPods are lacking this feature?
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

So I don't want to hear anymore excuses. That being said, I'm crossing my fingers that the iPhone will come with an OLED screen. I'm definitely getting one to replace my iPod touch + el cheapo LG phone.

Me too, or least higher resolution, but I dont understand your excuses comment. If Apple chooses not to add OLED they will obviously have their reasons for it. We cant do anything about their decision except to either choose to buy or not buy their product so their excuse will be perfectly valid, even if we do not agree with it. Such is life.
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post


That being said, why would people be upset at having HD radio?

This should be a good answer- you beat me to the question.
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iLounge states…

"The site does not specify what differences there are between the new iPhone’s screen and its predecessor, but the company lists the new screen at $73 versus $35 for the prior version."

I hope that isn’t an error.

Ah, me too. I have to say, OLED would be awfully nice - I've seen it in action and it's SO SO gorgeous. It's gonna put plasma to bed once it's cheaper, that's for damn sure. And dramatically improved battery life + brighter colors AND blacker blacks is pretty much a dream come true.
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Me too, or least higher resolution, but I don’t understand your “excuses” comment. If Apple chooses not to add OLED they will obviously have their reasons for it. We can’t do anything about their decision except to either choose to buy or not buy their product so their excuse will be perfectly valid, even if we do not agree with it. Such is life.

I love it- you even come up with an excuse for Apple's excuses.
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Is HD radio what we call DAB in the UK? Digital radio?
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It can play native 720p content on its reduced resolution screen, but it can also take that native 720p content and play it back on a TV...

You just repeated what I wrote.

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That being said, why would people be upset at having HD radio?

There is an entire sentence prior to my statement about people being upset so why take only last part that is qualified with an of course to complete my statement about what HD aspects this Zune will have to focus on? I never said they would be upset my HD radio I stated they would be upset with the title of HD when the built-in display is not HD. I think most people wont even care about HD radio.
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post #19 of 63
Unless, the new bezel is designed in such a way around the edges and earpeace, to help minimize the cracking problems that so many have had with the 3G. Nevertheless, IF it is some sort of fake pic, why do they bother. What is the thrill? I don't get it. It is sad that some people have nothing better to do with their time.
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OLEDs have been on the market for cell phones and other devices for quite a while. Hell, the C6 Chevrolet Corvette has an OLED display in the instrument cluster for the Driver Information Center. The C6 Corvette has been around since 2005...

I don't understand why people are so quick to downplay the technology or its acceptance in the marketplace if it doesn't make into the iPhone this time around.

As for other devices using OLED screens, here's a five-page list:

http://www.oled-info.com/devices

So I don't want to hear anymore excuses. That being said, I'm crossing my fingers that the iPhone will come with an OLED screen. I'm definitely getting one to replace my iPod touch + el cheapo LG phone.

hey man i was just saying they could be conservative with it. I'm not saying just because the iphone doesn't have it doesn't mean it's not refined or accepted lol.
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There is an entire sentence prior to my statement about people being upset so why take only last part that is qualified with an “of course” to complete my statement about what HD aspects this Zune will have to focus on? I never said they would be upset my HD radio I stated they would be upset with the title of HD when the built-in display is not HD. I think most people won’t even care about HD radio.


Because maybe you need top learn to write in a clear manner- not ones that areopen to many interpretations that you can twist to your advantage like this one?
Having said that- your comment is preposterous. People will know it's not the screen because you cannot advertise that, if it is false. Unlike "Twice as Fast".
I think more people would care for HD radio than you think. In fact radio is a good idea- period.
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You just repeated what I wrote.


There is an entire sentence prior to my statement about people being upset so why take only last part that is qualified with an of course to complete my statement about what HD aspects this Zune will have to focus on? I never said they would be upset my HD radio I stated they would be upset with the title of HD when the built-in display is not HD. I think most people wont even care about HD radio.

1) I was just adding the point about it being able to output externally in full 720p with a dock -- I don't see you stating that in your post, just that the graphics chip itself could do 720p.

2) I wasn't the only one confused by your statement. The way it was worded, it made it seem like someone would be upset over HD radio. And looking at the other comments, I wasn't the only one confused
post #23 of 63
i was just looking at my iphone thinking what it would look like with a black metallic bezel. i think it would look pretty cool. maybe even with a black metallic apple. highly unlikely but it would look pretty sweet. i do think that somebody has too much time on their hands. that or the article did say that china ontrade makes aftermarket parts for the iphone. maybe they are making custom aftermarket parts for the 3G or the next gen. (just a thought)
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I love it- you even come up with an excuse for Apple's excuses.

Its amazing that you still dont see how Apples business reasons are not the same as your own selfish reasons. Its quite important that you comprehend this very simple concept if you are ever going to understand the world at large.
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It’s amazing that you still don’t see how Apple’s business reasons are not the same as your own selfish reasons. It’s quite important that you comprehend this very simple concept if you are ever going to understand the world at large.

If anybody wants anything from Apple that they don't currently offer- they're either selfish or a complainer.

And yet I'm the one who "doesn't understand the world at large"?
You're the one stuck in narrowmindeness. Why is a radio bad, why is matte, firewire bad too? I'm wasting my time becuase you used to say the same thing about MMS, MMS pics, video, 7- 11 inches, etc, etc.
And now my accused complaints and selfishness iarenow coming unto fruition.
post #26 of 63
I hope rumors are wrong and Apple doesn't go with the same POS screens they been using for the last 3 years now. If rumors are true, the Zune HD is gonna look pretty sweet this holiday season no matter how many crappy apps the touch might have.
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

The Zune HDs OLED is not HD, but the GPU can output 720p HD which means that your 720p content can be loaded and played on the devices 480x272 3.2 display and, of course, it has the HD radio receiver. That may upset a few people.

It needs an expensive dock to output the 720p, which will make people buying this device to less than happy.

HD radio is not very good. It rarely has a bitrate higher than 100Kb/s, and often no more than 64 Kb/s.

To me, that's not much of a feature. Here we are moving to 256Kb/s, and HD radio is far behind.
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If anybody wants anything from Apple that they don't currently offer- they're either selfish or a complainer.

Teckstud being a troll again. He didn't use the word "selfish" in the way you are using it, so relax. Why the constant need to create polemics? Are you that alone in the universe?
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I love it- you even come up with an excuse for Apple's excuses.

Why would you think that Apple would need an "excuse"?

It seems to me that a "reason" would be more correct.

Perhaps Apple isn't satisfied with some aspect of the OLED's presented to them. Possibly they can't get one that is in the correct size/rez for their needs.

Other manufacturers might be willing to accept whatever manufacturers make. Apple could be much more resolved to maintain a standard. Would you find it hard to believe that Apple has likely been testing OLEDS?

We don't know. Why do you have to characterize it as an "excuse"?
post #30 of 63
We had a team of artists create an "artist's impression" of what an iPhone with such a bezel would look like:

http://twitpic.com/63yd6

Frankly, having done it, I am not 100% convinced. It's just not very Apple-ish to have a seam in the outside edge of a device.

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Teckstud being a troll again. He didn't use the word "selfish" in the way you are using it, so relax. Why the constant need to create polemics? Are you that alone in the universe?

Not trolling - only a realist. And since when does selfish have two diferrent meanings?
My requests benefit everybody not just my own.
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Why would you think that Apple would need an "excuse"?

It seems to me that a "reason" would be more correct.

Perhaps Apple isn't satisfied with some aspect of the OLED's presented to them. Possibly they can't get one that is in the correct size/rez for their needs.

Other manufacturers might be willing to accept whatever manufacturers make. Apple could be much more resolved to maintain a standard. Would you find it hard to believe that Apple has likely been testing OLEDS?

We don't know. Why do you have to characterize it as an "excuse"?

Ask solipism and Mazda 3s , not me. He's the one replying to another poster blaming Apple on excuses. He just came up with an excuse for the excuse accusation. I'm merely commenting as a bystander.
I would use something slightly more creative than "excuse".
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I hope rumors are wrong and Apple doesn't go with the same POS screens they been using for the last 3 years now. If rumors are true, the Zune HD is gonna look pretty sweet this holiday season no matter how many crappy apps the touch might have.

The Zune screen is a lower rez than Apple's screen, and by a fair amount. It's touted as being 16:9, which is 480 x 272. It's also a smaller screen at 3.3 inches which doesn't sound like much, but will be much smaller visually.

I'm not impressed.

This looks like a '90's techno design. It looks like some of my old PCMIA adapters. In fact, from the side and rear, it looks almost EXACTLY like one, except for being larger. Strange retro design.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...-microsoft.ars
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Not trolling - only a realist. And since when does selfish have two diferrent meanings?
My requests benefit everybody not just my own.

He used "selfish" as in each one's desires, demand vs supply 101 thing. You were using it as in "my desire, FO!"

Clearly they are different. But of course that for an absolutist like you this kind of ambiguity is impossible to happen.
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Originally Posted by LuisDias View Post

He used "selfish" as in each one's desires, demand vs supply 101 thing. You were using it as in "my desire, FO!"

Clearly they are different. But of course that for an absolutist like you this kind of ambiguity is impossible to happen.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/selfish

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inept
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We had a team of artists create an "artist's impression" of what an iPhone with such a bezel would look like:

http://twitpic.com/63yd6

Frankly, having done it, I am not 100% convinced. It's just not very Apple-ish to have a seam in the outside edge of a device.

C

That's really nice looking!
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I love it- you even come up with an excuse for Apple's excuses.

Well, it's very true, Apple do not normally add or omit a feature just for fun! Or because they are lazy. It's normally a well thought out tradeoff.
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2) I wasn't the only one confused by your statement. The way it was worded, it made it seem like someone would be upset over HD radio. And looking at the other comments, I wasn't the only one confused

While that is true the other was Teckstud, which isnt exactly hard proof. You are very correct, regardless if my sentence is grammatically correct or not, the goal of any communication is to get ones point across clearly and accurately. Its easy to forget how much the internet as been able to group people from different cultures, learned backgrounds and ages so easily into the same forum. However, I do stand by my original statement. If I had meant for the last sentence to refer to only the last part of the previous sentence, and not the whole sentence, I would have separated that out into I think the HD Radio may upset a few people.
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The Zune HDs OLED is not HD, but the GPU can output 720p HD which means that your 720p content can be loaded and played on the devices 480x272 3.2 display and, of course, it has the HD radio receiver. That may upset a few people.

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Because maybe you need top learn to write in a clear manner- not ones that areopen to many interpretations that you can twist to your advantage like this one?
Having said that- your comment is preposterous. People will know it's not the screen because you cannot advertise that, if it is false. Unlike "Twice as Fast".
I think more people would care for HD radio than you think. In fact radio is a good idea- period.

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1) I was just adding the point about it being able to output externally in full 720p with a dock -- I don't see you stating that in your post, just that the graphics chip itself could do 720p.

2) I wasn't the only one confused by your statement. The way it was worded, it made it seem like someone would be upset over HD radio. And looking at the other comments, I wasn't the only one confused

Hm, I had no problem understanding what solipsism meant. It was pretty obvious that the "upset" was in reference to the misleading naming of the product. Being upset about the inclusion of HD radio would be silly, and only if you were looking for something to criticize would you think that's what was meant. Including the HD radio bit was to help explain why it's called Zune HD despite not being able to diplay HD video.

And the original comment is not preposterous. Until I read this thread, I assumed the "HD" in Zune HD has something to do with HD video. HD radio is still pretty obscure, and many people would have no clue what it is. Calling it Zune HD is a pretty blatant attempt to mislead poeple. Remember, not everyone (in fact, very few people) are tech savvy and look at the detailed specs for the products they buy.

You can be sure the marketing will looks something like, "Zune HD - plays HD video and receives HD radio." All true, but the screen resolution will probably be some footnote on the page someplace, and a lot of poeple won't notice that the screen itself is not HD until after they've made their purchase. (Of course, I believe in "let the buyer beware" so it's their own damn fault for not understanding what they've purchased; but that doesn't change the fact that it's misleading.)

And in all the press releases and web postings I've seen, this was never explained. Thus my assumption that the HD was purely to do with video. So it's probably also an attempt to stall purchases of iPod touches, because people will think that MS is coming out with an HD video player. So people hold of making an Apple purchase, buying time for MS to get their sh@t together in the hopes they'll buy a Zune instead of an iPod.
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