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post #121 of 261
Hopefully 2012 will be the start of the United States "detox" program.

2012 Match-ups: Obama, Romney Tied at 45%

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If the 2012 presidential election were held today, President Obama and possible Republican nominee Mitt Romney would be all tied up at 45% each, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

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Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Today marks the first time his overall approval rating has ever fallen below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.

Oh noes.... the President has hit a new milestone. Don't worry President Obama, I'm sending over Kristen Chenoweth to help you right now so practice the hair flip and hope the double-sided tape holds.

As Gary Bauer notes, we need a president, not a prom king.


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But a presidents personal popularity counts only until peoples lives are affected by his policies. As experienced pollster Kellyanne Conway put it in an interview with this column, [Obama] is president not prom king.

If youre out of a job and a government bureaucrat is telling your doctor what medication to prescribe you, it doesnt much matter that the person responsible can knock down a fifteen-foot jumper or that he takes his wife out on romantic date nights.

Conway, president of The Polling Company, inc./WomanTrend, has noticed that each time Obama addresses an issue, his popularity on that issue declines. Whether its the stimulus, TARP, energy or health care, the more the public hears from the president, the less they like his proposals.

See Obama really sank himself at that news conference. His wonderful Matrix-y analogy made it really clear to people, that if there is a blue pill and the red pill and the blue pill does the same job for half as much, the question won't be why not purchase the blue pill, the question will be, why did the government declare the red pill illegal.

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post #123 of 261
Unfortunately the best healthcare will not be able to cure narrow minds and religiosity.

The Dems will have about 40,000,000 more voters in 2010.
They will all be healthy.

The GOP will have Alzheimers patients as base. Bravo!
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Some new lows for the Obama administration today....



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Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. This is the second straight day that his overall approval rating has been below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.

This doesn't mean Obama is wrong, but it does mean he is not popular. Those that conflate the two should now stop.

A fascinating bit of insight can be found in this piece called Blue State Meltdown. Living in California it very much resonates with how I see things coming down and additionally, is a fresh perspective in the realm of ideas about actions and consequences. In short the Blue States and their respective meltdowns were blamed on Bush. Their models have failed and somehow Bush was the convenient strawman to blame. The problem now is that those same policies and officials are in place and the meltdown still continues.

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For example, while state and local budget crises have extended to some red states, the most severe fiscal and economic basket cases largely are concentrated in places such as New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Oregon, and, perhaps most vividly of all, California. The last three have among the highest unemployment rates in the country; all the aforementioned are deeply in debt and have been forced to impose employee cutbacks and higher taxes almost certain to blunt a strong recovery.

The East Coastdominated media, of course, wants to claim that we have reached the twilight of Sunbelt growth. This observation seems a bit premature. Instead, traditional red-state strongholds such as the Dakotas, Idaho, Texas, Utah, and North Carolina, dominated the list of fastest-growing regions recently compiled for Forbes by my colleagues at www.newgeography.com.


This part is amazing....

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The Great Delusion and Its Blue-State Victims

This elite strategy has served to bifurcate most blue states into an affluent core and a rapidly declining periphery. For example, California, a state whose shift from red to blue has given some heft to progressives everywhere, has experienced an increasing gap between a small sliver of wealthy metropolitan residents along the coast and an increasingly marginalized interior populated largely by middle- and working-class Hispanics.

And then there is the imposition of increasingly stringent environmental regulation. This has hit hardest the essential sectors of the non-creative class economy such as manufacturing, warehousing, and agriculture. Basic industries depend more than finance or creative ones on reasonably priced energy and land, access to raw materials, and a sane regulatory regime. In California, notes economist Watkins, everything has priority over the economy.

You can see the effects clearly in California. Climate change regulations work to constrain new construction of homes, particularly suburban single-family homes. Manufacturing industries, even relatively clean ones, make easy targets for carbon-hunting regulators. A recent Milken Institute report found that between 2000 and 2007 California lost nearly 400,000 manufacturing jobs, all this while industrial employment was growing in major competitive rivals such as Texas and Arizona.

Trucking firms, saddled with harsh new deadlines to shift to cleaner vehicles, also are going out of business. Like manufacturers, many of these have historically been sources of upward mobility for largely Latino entrepreneurs and workers.

Perhaps the most searing disaster is unfolding in the rich Central Valley. Large areas are about to be returned to desertdue less to a mild drought than to regulations designed to save obscure fish species in the states delta. Over 450,000 acres have been allowed to go fallow. Nearly 30,000 agriculture jobsmostly held by Latinoswere lost just in May. Unemployment, 17 percent across the Central Valley, reaches to more than 40 percent in some towns such as Mendota.

In case you weren't aware this last issue is what recently turned Paul Rodriguez into a Republican.

So what is going to happen now?

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Many in the true blue states greeted Barack Obamas election like the coming of a Messiah who would redress these serious problems. After all, it is widely believed in blue states that the red-state barbarians had looted the Treasury for their clients in the energy, industrial, home-building, pharmaceutical, and defense industries. Now the blue states, and their industries, would get payback. A vast expansion of public infrastructure, more emphasis on basic industry, and incentives for new entrepreneurial ventures could now help rapidly declining areas in the blue states.

Yet hopes that Obama would emphasize such basic infrastructure now have been dashed. Instead, the stimulus has been largely steered to social service providers, green industries, and academic research. One reason, as we now know, is that feminists saw such an approach as too favorable to burly men who might not have been among the presidents core fan base.

Sadly, many of those burly men, particularly the unemployed, still reside in the blue states. They might not be in the places inhabited by the post-industrial elites but they do live in the hardscrabble neighborhoods, industrial suburbs, and small towns from Michigan and upstate New York to Californias vast interior.

Another group that may be unexpectedly hurt by the Obama policies will be the middle and upper middle classes in blue states. Already burdened by high rates of taxation locally and higher costs for everything from housing to education, these hardy soulsmaking more than $125,000 to $250,000 a yearnow are about to find themselves heaped in with the rich. Higher federal tax rates, as proposed by the administration, could prove disastrous for many blue-state middle-income families.

Do a couple searches on mancession if you want any elaboration on above. 80% of the jobs lost have been in male dominant fields.

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Is There Hope for Blue America?

Ultimately, waiting for Obama will not revive the blue states. Instead the best prospect lies in blue states healing themselves. Fortunately, there are some tentative signs of unrest. The same regime failure that stuck to Republicans in the wake of the Bush presidency soon may be felt by Democrats burdened with the failed legacy of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine, or New York Governor David Paterson. Even Illinois, the presidents home state, could go Republican, suggests political scientist Simpson, if the Republicans put up a viable, middle-of-the-road candidate.

Powerful signs of mounting resistance have emerged in the most important state of all, California. The massive rejection of the budget agreement last spring was a blow to not only its architects, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Democrats in the legislature, but the general conventional wisdom that holds increased taxes as the key to addressing the states budget problem.

Even in deep blue Los Angeles, the public sector machine built around onetime union organizer and current Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has lost some recent battles, including an attempt to create a public sector union monopoly over the citys solar industry. There is now greater appreciation of soaring public sector pension obligations as groups like the California Foundation for Fiscal Responsibility expose lists of public employees enjoying mega-pensions.

Even Illinois, the presidents home state, could go Republican, suggests political scientist Simpson, if the Republicans put up a viable, middle-of-the-road candidate.

Similar efforts have started in other states, and with private-sector pensions being cut around the country, anger over the emerging privileged class of public workers may well gain traction. Ultimately, more people in blue states will begin to realize that their states need to learn again how to compete against both their red counterparts and the rest of the world.

There is no intrinsic reason blue states should continue to decline. They have created much of the industrial enterprise, technological innovation, and cultural vitality that made the United States the worlds preeminent country. The prospects for these places can certainly be brighter than they are today.

There is plenty of hope for them and for America if we go back and remember that we are not Post-Anything.

That last link ties the first together very well. Red states still get their hands dirty with things like... energy production, manufacturing, etc. Get rid of the utopianism and get ready to work.

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post #126 of 261
Wow. So you guys think things were so much better under Republican rule?

The thought that you'd re-elect Bush to a third term is pretty outrageous, I gotta say.
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post #127 of 261
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Wow. So you guys think things were so much better under Republican rule?

The thought that you'd re-elect Bush to a third term is pretty outrageous, I gotta say.

That is pretty outrageous, considering nobody here has advocated electing Bush to a third term. Or did I miss something?

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post #128 of 261
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That is pretty outrageous, considering nobody here has advocated electing Bush to a third term. Or did I miss something?

You all pretty much want things to be returned to the way they were. Hence the term "recover".
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post #129 of 261
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OH NOES!

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Despite their denials, influential Democratic Sens. Kent Conrad and Chris Dodd were told from the start they were getting VIP mortgage discounts from one of the nation's largest lenders, the official who handled their loans has told Congress in secret testimony.

I didn't know it was a sweetheart deal. Sure everythign was below cost, below market and they told me this information too, but really it wasn't my fault. It was probably Bush's fault for lying about something.

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post #130 of 261
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You all pretty much want things to be returned to the way they were. Hence the term "recover".

I want limited, Constitutional government to be restored. That hasn't existed since long before "W".

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post #131 of 261
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I want limited, Constitutional government to be restored. That hasn't existed since long before "W".

Funny how guys seem to only show up when a Dem is in the White House.
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post #132 of 261
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Funny how guys seem to only show up when a Dem is in the White House.

Could it be that you only notice us now that a Dem is in the White House?

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post #133 of 261
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Could it be that you only notice us now that a Dem is in the White House?

Yea that's Northgate's mantra these days. Anyone that brings up a litig' point about Obama or the Democrats gets a "Well you didn't XXX before when Bush YYY" from Northgate these days. Inspired rhetoric.
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Yea that's Northgate's mantra these days. Anyone that brings up a litig' point about Obama or the Democrats gets a "Well you didn't XXX before when Bush YYY" from Northgate these days. Inspired rhetoric.

Yeah, it would be much more convenient if Repub's glaring hypocrisy and laughable double-standards could just be swept under the rugs, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, it would be much more convenient if Repub's glaring hypocrisy and laughable double-standards could just be swept under the rugs, wouldn't it?

No, it's more convenient to hurl around platitudes and make generalizations about people who think differently.

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post #136 of 261
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No, it's more convenient to hurl around platitudes and make generalizations about people who think differently.

An excellent description of FloorJack's post!
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Yeah, it would be much more convenient if Repub's glaring hypocrisy and laughable double-standards could just be swept under the rugs, wouldn't it?

Like those things labeled a "distraction" by Team Obama?
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Like those things labeled a "distraction" by Team Obama?

Sure.

The appearance of illegal acts cannot go un-investigated, lest further such illegal acts be encouraged. This should not be a "distraction", nor should it be a partisan issue.

I think the wheels of justice and accountability may finally be moving in the right direction, even if it's been knocked back out of the news cycle lately.
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Unfortunately the best healthcare will not be able to cure narrow minds and religiosity.

The Dems will have about 40,000,000 more voters in 2010.
They will all be healthy.

The GOP will have Alzheimers patients as base. Bravo!

Best post in this idiotic thread.
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No, it's more convenient to hurl around platitudes and make generalizations about people who think differently.

That's rich!
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post #141 of 261
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Overall, 48% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. That is the lowest level of total approval yet recorded for this President. Fifty-one percent (51%) now disapprove.

I think this really is double bad for Democrats. One of the key complaints by critics about Bush was that he had so many political surrogates who would carry water for him. Obama has had just the opposite. No one else has the charisma, the eloquence, the personal narrative to get the softball questions pitched and the issues ignored so he is carrying the weight and speaking agenda for the entire party. To me this means his political capital is being exhausted and a much faster rate than other presidents of this modern era. One term is becoming a very distinct possibility and Obama will have thrown himself under the bus to save Pelosi, Reid and others who can't open their mouth without inserting their foot.

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post #142 of 261
What does everyone make of Obama's "Beer Summit"?

I personally think it is nothing more than a sorry attempt by Obama to repair his own public image after the ridiculous comments he made. This is not about Gates or the police officer at all, it's about Obama.

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What does everyone make of Obama's "Beer Summit"?

I personally think it is nothing more than an sorry attempt by Obama to repair his own public image after the ridiculous comments he made. This is not about Gates or the police officer at all, it's about Obama.

I think it's an attempt to fix what he broke. There are worse things he could have done.

Getting together for a couple of beers, and the president is buying? I'd SO be there! That said, getting together for a couple of beers with YOU picking up the tab and I'd still be there. I'm easy that way.
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What does everyone make of Obama's "Beer Summit"?

I personally think it is nothing more than a sorry attempt by Obama to repair his own public image after the ridiculous comments he made. This is not about Gates or the police officer at all, it's about Obama.

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post #145 of 261
Hmmmm

 

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post #146 of 261
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HuffPo

More propaganda from the climate change denier birthers. Clearly HuffPo has become a right wing website and will do anything to destroy Obama in their racist attempts to stop him.

Here they note that compensation has growing by the lowest amount on record. We all know this is impossible because the Democratic Congress passed a minimum wage increase that raised the wages of low earning workers 29% in the last three years.

So clearly the wages have to be going up and doing so dramatically. I mean the government said they have to so they have to right! The evidence they raised the wages is right there so clearly HuffPo is hiding this because they want Republicans back in power. I mean have these increases even really had enough time to go into effect yet? We had to do something and think about how bad the compensation growth would be if we hadn't done it. We are your saviors even in failure. Bow now before us and be thankful.

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post #147 of 261
GW said there were WMDs... people who disagreed were called unpatriotic and un-Amerikan.

There weren't any WMDs.

Trust us.

We are the party of family values. Just ask Sanford and all of his friends.

The prez wasn't born in the US.

Joe the Plumber

Rush

The Quit Bull with Lipstick

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post #148 of 261
"I've been frozen for 30 years, okay! Throw me a frickin' bone, here!"

Barbara Boxer meet Dr. Evil

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post #149 of 261
Obama raises 10-year deficit to $9 trillion...

...then goes on vacation.

All in a day's work for the prez, eh? 7 trillion, 9 trillion...what's the difference? It's Bush's fault, anyway. And anyone who asks questions or disagrees is apparently a right-wing fear-mongering extremist racist uneducated gun-toting bigot homophobe sexist nutjob domestic terrorist booger-nosed idiot.

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Back in the saddle again.

The chart above would be pretty damn worrying if not for a couple points.

1) Unemployment is clearly racist.
2) Unemployment is clearly hateful.
3) I think I read somewhere that Unemployment listens to Glenn Beck.
4) Unemployment has or will at some point receive some sort of government benefit so who the hell is it to complain?
5) Dave Letterman, John Stewart and Keith Olbermann all either slammed, discredited or named Unemployment as their worst person of the day and they know their stuff.

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6) There really isn't any unemployment at all. It is just a dog whistle, a meme, an attempt to distract from the real and pressing issues of the day.

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post #151 of 261
Welcome back, trumptman. Hasn't been quite the same without you.

Of course, several PO members probably think I'm just you talking to yourself.

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Welcome back, trumptman. Hasn't been quite the same without you.

Of course, several PO members probably think I'm just you talking to yourself.

Well don't worry because neither of us can truly exist. We only post because we are paid to do so. No one can really oppose the Democratic agenda. Our posts are only here because rich opposition paid people to pretend to oppose it.

Now you'll have to excuse me, I have to see if my check has arrived before I can comment further to myself.

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post #153 of 261
Just watched a special on 9/11 and its aftermath, lived through (and continue to live through) Iraq and Afghanistan, and have spent the past year watching the election, Sara, Glen, Rush, the Tea Parties, the Birthers, the health deniers and now the parents and schools refusing to show the president's speech tomorrow.

Forget this thread.

When will the world recover from Republican rule and influence?

 

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the health deniers

Yeah, that helps.
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Back in the saddle again.

The chart above would be pretty damn worrying if not for a couple points.

1) Unemployment is clearly racist.
2) Unemployment is clearly hateful.
3) I think I read somewhere that Unemployment listens to Glenn Beck.
4) Unemployment has or will at some point receive some sort of government benefit so who the hell is it to complain?
5) Dave Letterman, John Stewart and Keith Olbermann all either slammed, discredited or named Unemployment as their worst person of the day and they know their stuff.

Finally....
6) There really isn't any unemployment at all. It is just a dog whistle, a meme, an attempt to distract from the real and pressing issues of the day.

Well I think it has become quite obvious that people are choosing to remain unemployed because they are racist haters of Barack Obama. Alternatively, companies are refusing to hire people because they are racist haters of Barack Obama.

But this is all meaningless because the stimulus was never about employment anyway (except that is was). And because, well, everyone "guessed wrong" (assuming by "everyone" you mean not everyone).

This outcome was highly predictable. The next step is fairly predictable too...more "stimulus" will be needed because the problem from the get go was there wasn't enough spending.
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Who know that Obamanomics = How can I be broke, I still have checks?

Nice to see you back too Involuntary Serf.

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When has everyone in this country EVER been completely happy at the same time?

How bout THAT poll?
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A graph from somewhere that doesn't exist anymore?

innocentbystanders.net

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When has everyone in this country EVER been completely happy at the same time?

How bout THAT poll?

They're just unhappy because the conservatives took a big dive in the last election and aren't likely to be back on top anytime soon.

That's where the hate you've been talking about is coming from. Just wait oh say 8 ( or maybe even 12 ) years and things will be all different.
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A graph from somewhere that doesn't exist anymore?

innocentbystanders.net

Can you say :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics

The domain goes to the blog. I'm not sure of your point. The URL works as advertised.

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