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AN OPEN LETTER CONCERNING POOR WRITING SKILLS .

i post here with only good intentions .


Time to clear the air .


I understand why some here have complaints, and i agree with some of the points made . i will try to address these points below .

Concerning brucep and his poor writing skills >>>>>>>>>>i will continue to to TRY very hard to keep my t's crossed and my i's dotted . if THAT still after a week or two not good enough then point out what is not clear and p m me . DO NOT GIVE A SARCASTIC answer.

concerning creative writing style >>>>>> some have just said to me that i have been writing in a creative style and this forum is a bit more stiff. Well after re-reading some of my most recent past posts i see some stupid jokes i tried to make.They were funny then but now they seem dull and pedestrian.These posts were not any attempt at creative writing i was in a haste and a bit hyper over itouch going to 64 g .

Many posters here make funny wry ironic comments . At time's i may choose to do the same .

Many posters here complain about teckstud yet they feed him all day . So i should not respond to a member here because you guys don't like him ???

And techstud if you read his work is quite funny ,if you see where he is coming from .

and i am not the only one here with poor writing skills

SO
what to do
what to do
I will again try very hard to be clear . i will use spell check every time


And i hope people can point out when i am not clear.so maybe i can learn .

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AN OPEN CONERNING POOR WRITING SKILLS .

What does this mean?
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What does this mean?

Dammit i am such a jerk

open LETTER of course


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It's become popular to argue that using nonstandard punctuation, spelling and grammar is being a "creative" writer. Maybe it is if you're James Joyce, but nobody here is James Joyce (nor are they writing a novel). The reasons for using conventional grammar, spelling and punctuation in writing is that it aids in communications, which should be the purpose of the writing in the first place. When a writer challenges a reader with random grammar and spelling, they are undermining their own efforts to make a point. I think they are also being lazy, and demanding that the reader make up for their lack of effort. Personally, I tend to skip post written by people who apparently can't be bothered to consider the burden they are placing on the reader to figure out what they meant to say.
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open LETTER of course


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and CONERNING?

Take a deep breath brucep... and type .. a .. little.. more.. slowly.
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Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post

It's become popular to argue that using nonstandard punctuation, spelling and grammar is being a "creative" writer. Maybe it is if you're James Joyce, but nobody here is James Joyce (nor are they writing a novel). The reasons for using conventional grammar, spelling and punctuation in writing is that it aids in communications, which should be the purpose of the writing in the first place. When a writer challenges a reader with random grammar and spelling, they are undermining their own efforts to make a point. I think they are also being lazy, and demanding that the reader make up for their lack of effort. Personally, I tend to skip post written by people who apparently can't be bothered to consider the burden they are placing on the reader to figure out what they meant to say.

This is exactly what I've been telling brucep.
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This is exactly what I've been telling brucep.

I'm sorry, I don't follow you.


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I'm sorry, I don't follow you.



I know. The whole reason he posted here was because I reminded him a couple times that people were yelling at him because of HOW he spoke not because of what he was saying, because they couldn't understand what he was saying anyway.
post #9 of 28
"i" as a reference to yourself should be capitalized... every time. I think I learned that in kindergarden.

The last letter of a sentence is followed by a period (.) with NO SPACE between that letter and the period.

You can be clever all day... we like that. You can be creative by using ">>>>" instead of the more proper "...", but basic elementary school grammar and punctuation is something that you should strive to use with perfection. Proper spelling is also a worthy goal. If you write as if you are intelligent, people will tend to assume there is more intelligence behind WHAT you write.

Good god, man! I hold my 6 year old to higher standards!!!
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Something seems to be wrong with brucep's space bar.
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Thank you all for the input.
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Something seems to be wrong with brucep's space bar.

Yes,My space bar mis-use.I never noticed that till now.THANK YOU. I have a rare disease of Dyslexia of the left hand. A blinding fast downwards twitch of my lower thumb area barely flicking the space bar. A family hidden shame I carry alone with great sadness.

I have not written letters of any kind except for business letters to my clients that are short and sweet. I also have over 30,000 post's in various pink floyd forums, but over there punctuation is not so tight. So it has been since high school back in 1977 that i have wrote < or is it written ?> in a correct manner. I have since then picked up many bad habit's.

I feel that except for my radical views, i can post here at AI in a correct manner. I will never fully be proficient at proper sentence structure. I tend to write exactly the same as i would speak on a phone.BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST.

Please wait a little and view my posts and let me know what you think.

Also i CAN SEE a forum wide problem of facts being thrown around with no regard for their validity.

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I will never fully be proficient at proper sentence structure. I tend to write exactly the same as i would speak on a phone.BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST.

Dude, that just means the people you call also don't understand you. Obviously, you have one or more disabilities. Deal with them. I do not feel sorry for you.
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Dude, that just means the people you call also don't understand you. Obviously, you have one or more disabilities. Deal with them. I do not feel sorry for you.

I did not ask anyone to feel sorry for me. And Ii have no disabilities. Most of the time my sentence structure will be fine. But i may have blind spots and how will I ever know if someone doesn't point them out to me.

This thread WAS meant to clear the air and help me understand what is going on with my errant posts. I now under fully the error's I was making. And pretty much it was some bad habits I picked up.

As for your witty remark, all my nyc friends understand me fine. And since I am selling gemstones as a business, I am calling around the world, with great results.

thanks anyway


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... Most of the time my sentence structure will be fine...

Just not at any point in THIS thread.
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post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot View Post

Just not at any point in THIS thread.

hEY i am agreat example for your 6 yr old on what NOT to do .


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Yes,My space bar mis-use.I never noticed that till now.THANK YOU. I have a rare disease of Dyslexia of the left hand. A blinding fast downwards twitch of my lower thumb area barely flicking the space bar. A family hidden shame I carry alone with great sadness.

I have not written letters of any kind except for business letters to my clients that are short and sweet. I also have over 30,000 post's in various pink floyd forums, but over there punctuation is not so tight. So it has been since high school back in 1977 that i have wrote < or is it written ?> in a correct manner. I have since then picked up many bad habit's.

I feel that except for my radical views, i can post here at AI in a correct manner. I will never fully be proficient at proper sentence structure. I tend to write exactly the same as i would speak on a phone.BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST.

Please wait a little and view my posts and let me know what you think.

Also i CAN SEE a forum wide problem of facts being thrown around with no regard for their validity.

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This is not meant to be a criticism but just a critique - for help in your next post.

Yes, [space after comma and lower case m in MY] My space bar is [helper verb] misused [one word]. [Space after period]. I never noticed that till now. THANK YOU [Thank you - Do not scream]. I have a rare disease of dyslexia [lower case d in dyslexia] of the left hand. A blinding fast downwards twitch of my lower [lower thumb? Do you have an upper thumb? No wonder you have trouble writing.] thumb area barely flicking the space bar. A family hidden shame I carry alone with great sadness.

I have not written letters of any kind except for business letters to my clients that are short and sweet. I also have over 30,000 post's {posts is plural, not possessive=posts] in various Pink Floyd [proper nouns are capitalized] forums, but over there [over where?], punctuation is not so tight. So it has been since high school back in 1977 that i [I is always capitalized as King suggested] have wrote < or is it written ?> [written=participle with a helping verb-have] in a correct manner. I have since then picked up many bad habit's [habits-plural, not possessive].

I feel that except for my radical views, i can post here at AI in a correct manner. I will never fully be [be fully] proficient at proper sentence structure. I tend to write exactly the same as i would speak on a phone. [space after a period] BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST. [But I will try my best - DO NOT scream].

Please wait a little and view my posts and let me know what you think.

Also i [I - capitalized] CAN SEE [can see - DO NOT scream] a forum wide problem of facts being thrown around with no regard for their validity.

peace [Peace]

Try not to start sentences with "So" and "But". It is not incorrect, but it is gauche.

I would much appreciate a critique of my critique, as I know I make mistakes.
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This is not meant to be a criticism but just a critique - for help in your next post.

Yes, [space after comma and lower case m in MY] My space bar is [helper verb] misused [one word]. [Space after period]. I never noticed that till now. THANK YOU [Thank you - Do not scream]. I have a rare disease of dyslexia [lower case d in dyslexia] of the left hand. A blinding fast downwards twitch of my lower [lower thumb? Do you have an upper thumb? No wonder you have trouble writing.] thumb area barely flicking the space bar. A family hidden shame I carry alone with great sadness.

I have not written letters of any kind except for business letters to my clients that are short and sweet. I also have over 30,000 post's {posts is plural, not possessive=posts] in various Pink Floyd [proper nouns are capitalized] forums, but over there [over where?], punctuation is not so tight. So it has been since high school back in 1977 that i [I is always capitalized as King suggested] have wrote < or is it written ?> [written=participle with a helping verb-have] in a correct manner. I have since then picked up many bad habit's [habits-plural, not possessive].

I feel that except for my radical views, i can post here at AI in a correct manner. I will never fully be [be fully] proficient at proper sentence structure. I tend to write exactly the same as i would speak on a phone. [space after a period] BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST. [But I will try my best - DO NOT scream].

Please wait a little and view my posts and let me know what you think.

Also i [I - capitalized] CAN SEE [can see - DO NOT scream] a forum wide problem of facts being thrown around with no regard for their validity.

peace [Peace]

Try not to start sentences with "So" and "But". It is not incorrect, but it is gauche.

I would much appreciate a critique of my critique, as I know I make mistakes.

Thank you very, very much. I truly appreciate your help. I grew up in the sixties or is it sixtie's? Anyway it was to say the least, a very stoned out time for me. All these years later i regret not paying attention more in high school.

I agree with everything you have said. Except of course the thumb part. Re-read the passage again please. My lower thumb area or I might have said the side of my palm. The whole first paragraph was joke. I do have a bad habit of hitting the space bar at the wrong time.

Again you have been great. Thank you.

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Thank you very, very much. I truly appreciate your help. I grew up in the sixties or is it sixtie's [sixties-plural, not possessive]? Anyway it was to say the least, a very stoned out time for me. All these years later i regret not paying attention more in high school.

I agree with everything you have said. Except of course the thumb part. Re-read the passage again please. My lower thumb area or I might have said the side of my palm. The whole first paragraph was joke. I do have a bad habit of hitting the space bar at the wrong time.

Again you have been great. Thank you.

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Brucep,
You may not be good with grammar, but you're a good sport. I salute you.

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brucep,

We all have something we need to work better at in our lives.

For example:

Some people are as*holes and can't place themselves in the others shoes before uttering something that will upset the other.

Some people are dyslexic, some people talk to dam loud.

Some people tend to spit when they talk, or pick their nose in public.

Some people have issues that are not so obvious, some are obvious.

Whatever it is we need to work on, just keep at it and smile because one day it will be fine.


Me, I'm perfect. I don't need any improvement obviously.
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post #21 of 28
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Brucep,
You may not be good with grammar, but you're a good sport. I salute you.

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brucep,

We all have something we need to work better at in our lives.

For example:

Some people are as*holes and can't place themselves in the others shoes before uttering something that will upset the other.

Some people are dyslexic, some people talk to dam loud.

Some people tend to spit when they talk, or pick their nose in public.

Some people have issues that are not so obvious, some are obvious.

Whatever it is we need to work on, just keep at it and smile because one day it will be fine.


Me, I'm perfect. I don't need any improvement obviously.

You very nice apple fans have extented a hand of help to me, and have managed to coach me, all the while doing no harm to my pride.

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brucep,

We all have something we need to work better at in our lives.

For example:

Some people are as*holes and can't place themselves in the others shoes before uttering something that will upset the other.

Some people are dyslexic, some people talk to dam loud. [period or ; after dyslexic]

Some people tend to spit when they talk, or pick their nose in public. [no comma after talk - there is no second subject of pick. tend & pick are compound verbs]

Some people have issues that are not so obvious, some are obvious. [period or ; after obvious]

Whatever it is we need to work on, just keep at it and smile because one day it will be fine.


Me, I'm perfect. [not quite perfect but getting there] I don't need any improvement obviously.

Nuff sed. No more critiques.

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Nuff seed. No more critiques.

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Huh ? Please more critiques, its fun. In fact I wrote something below about why I left the forums for 9 months or so. Please my friend have a look see. Over at the pink floyd site they will be thrilled with my new writing skills .
>>>>>>>>>

One day the fog rolled in. The next morning the fog kept on rolling in, a deeper shade of gray than had ever been seen before. People spoke to me all I heard was a gray muffled sound.

10 days turned into 20.
40 day turned into months.
The cancer was eating away at me.
By day 117 I stop caring about anything. The treatments were killing me. A circle of radition and chemo round and round.

The grey fog I now see was only in mine eye.

And then one day it was over. Feeble I was for month upon months. After a million bowls gruel I ate. Yet every day I feel just a touch better.

I am now almost 60 percent recovered from the treatments.

Somehow i found my way home, somehow i found my way back here home.
Someone was trying to be funny and I thought you're not funny. Moom is funny. Moom ? I thought who the fuck is moom?

And it hit me I have friends someplace locked away. Hidden from my illness and shame.

And moom was one of my best buddies over there.

I miss you too moom.
I miss all you guys.



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Huh ? Please more critiques, its fun. 9

Huh ? Please more critiques, its [it's - contraction, not possessive] fun. In fact I wrote something below about why I left the forums [fora - plural of forum] for 9 months or so. Please, my friend, have a look see. Over at the pink floyd, [Pink Floyd - proper nouns are capitalized or capitalised if you're across the pond] site they will be thrilled with my new writing skills .
>>>>>>>>>

One day the fog rolled in. The next morning the fog kept on rolling in, a deeper shade of gray than had ever been seen before. People spoke to me [,but] all I heard was a gray muffled sound.

10 days turned into 20.
40 day turned into months.
The cancer was eating away at me.
By day 117, I stop caring about anything. The treatments were killing me. A circle of radition [radiation] and chemo round and round.

The grey fog I now see was only in mine eye.

And then one day it was over. Feeble I was for month upon month [no s] and after a million bowls gruel I ate. Yet every day I feel just a touch better.

I am now almost 60 percent recovered from the treatments.

Somehow i found my way home, [period or ;] somehow i [capital I] found my way back here [to my] home.
Someone was trying to be funny [comma - compound sentence] and I thought you're not funny. Moom is funny. Moom ? I thought, "Who the fuck is moom?"

And it hit me I have friends someplace locked away and hidden from my illness and shame.

And moom was one of my best buddies over there [where?].

I miss you, too, moom.
I miss all you guys.
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You aren't heeding the changes made in the previous thread.

We're glad you're recuperating. Keep up your positive attitude.

Where's the "Language Police", Mr. H? [is police singular or plural here?] Why haven't you joined the fray? There was a Grammar Rant thread in February 2008. I don't want to start another one, so this is the end, brucep. Send a private message if you want more critiques.
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Huh ? Please more critiques, its [it's - contraction, not possessive] fun. In fact I wrote something below about why I left the forums [fora - plural of forum] for 9 months or so. Please, my friend, have a look see. Over at the pink floyd, [Pink Floyd - proper nouns are capitalized or capitalised if you're across the pond] site they will be thrilled with my new writing skills .
>>>>>>>>>

One day the fog rolled in. The next morning the fog kept on rolling in, a deeper shade of gray than had ever been seen before. People spoke to me [,but] all I heard was a gray muffled sound.

10 days turned into 20.
40 day turned into months.
The cancer was eating away at me.
By day 117, I stop caring about anything. The treatments were killing me. A circle of radition [radiation] and chemo round and round.

The grey fog I now see was only in mine eye.

And then one day it was over. Feeble I was for month upon month [no s] and after a million bowls gruel I ate. Yet every day I feel just a touch better.

I am now almost 60 percent recovered from the treatments.

Somehow i found my way home, [period or ;] somehow i [capital I] found my way back here [to my] home.
Someone was trying to be funny [comma - compound sentence] and I thought you're not funny. Moom is funny. Moom ? I thought, "Who the fuck is moom?"

And it hit me I have friends someplace locked away and hidden from my illness and shame.

And moom was one of my best buddies over there [where?].

I miss you, too, moom.
I miss all you guys.
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You aren't heeding the changes made in the previous thread.

We're glad you're recuperating. Keep up your positive attitude.

Where's the "Language Police", Mr. H? [is police singular or plural here?] Why haven't you joined the fray? There was a Grammar Rant thread in February 2008. I don't want to start another one, so this is the end, brucep. Send a private message if you want more critiques.

But I am improving a little ,i hope. Time will tell. I will now go ahead and join a formal writing class to further improve myself. It's fun.

Maybe this thread can morph into a chit chat kind of place?
Coffee sequitur?

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But I am improving a little ,i hope. Time will tell. I will now go ahead and join a formal writing class to further improve myself. It's fun.

Maybe this thread can morph into a chit chat kind of place?
Coffee sequitur?

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I'm drinking coffee as I write this. Are you? Where do you live? Unless we live in the same zip code, I doubt that we can have coffee together. What did you have in mind?

BTW, don't want to correct your posts any more, as it's too time consuming, but if you have any direct questions, I'll be happy to answer them. Use Private Messages in the upper right corner of these threads. That will avoid non-interested AI members having to gag.

Mr. H, where are you? You can help brucep's plight, too. Or is the Language Police just on board to point out errors? That's helpful, too. brucep can learn from that, also.
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I'm drinking coffee as I write this. Are you? Where do you live? Unless we live in the same zip code, I doubt that we can have coffee together. What did you have in mind?

BTW, don't want to correct your posts any more, as it's too time consuming, but if you have any direct questions, I'll be happy to answer them. Use Private Messages in the upper right corner of these threads. That will avoid non-interested AI members having to gag.

Mr. H, where are you? You can help brucep's plight, too. Or is the Language Police just on board to point out errors? That's helpful, too. brucep can learn from that, also.

The coffee was a virtual kind of thing. I only felt that if people wanted too they could chit chat here sometimes. You know, like damn i had a bad day at the office or something like that.

Just saying.

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[QUOTE=brucep;1430047]The coffee was a virtual kind of thing. I only felt that if people wanted too they could chit chat here sometimes. You know, like damn i had a bad day at the office or something like that.

Just saying./QUOTE]

Fine. But do it using Private Messages.
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