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post #81 of 262
If you only ever used the iPhone for phone calls, it can last for two or three days.

Many (if not most) of the iPhone's apps are just a front end UI to a web data base, so using the app is using the internet. On average iPhone users have around 100 apps loaded, people are using the apps, and that kills the battery quicker.

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Actually, I would suspect roaming from site to site in a city would be a more likely candidate. Not the amount of apps loaded.

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Considering you can only use one app at a time (we are talking 3rd party apps) I highly doubt that a battery drains that quick. I use apps like pandora and ootunes for ~4-5 hrs before they kill the battery. The GPS I noticed is a real drain though.
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It'd be nice to somehow manually "award" one other app the ability to leave it running after closing. Let the user decide if the battery hit is worth it.

i agree for the most part.

but i also see how apple, being under constant scrutiny, has to protect it's reputation in the general public. the majority of people wouldn't use this feature judiciously, they would just max it out and then complain about battery life, and then the iphone would pick up a poor reputation due to nothing more than user misuse.

case in point:

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Full screen brightness is the level I am comfortable with.

A battery that lasts to the end of the business day would be fine instead of needing to be charged midway through the day

Full brightness is ridiculously unnecessary, unless you have significant vision problems, in which case, apple cannot cater exclusively to such an extreme minority.
post #83 of 262
Apple has a patent for predictive text UI that lists words that look like the word you are attempting to type. That allows you to more easily select the exact word. This UI is used in Google's iPhone app. I wonder why Apple does not use it system wide.

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HAHA It is often obvious when typing on an iPhone. I'd love an app for the iPhone and Mac that let me edit the corrected word list.
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Originally Posted by steviet02 View Post

Actually, I would suspect roaming from site to site in a city would be a more likely candidate. Not the amount of apps loaded.

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Considering you can only use one app at a time (we are talking 3rd party apps) I highly doubt that a battery drains that quick. I use apps like pandora and ootunes for ~4-5 hrs before they kill the battery. The GPS I noticed is a real drain though.

I'd wager his point was that most users have many apps that they are constantly aceessing --not that the additonal apps are draining the battery just from being installed-- whereas other phones aren't are excessively used.

I use the GPS app very frequently and it does drain the battery rather quickly. I hope that improves with the next model but I still expect it be the weakest point in battery duration.
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Apple has a patent for predictive text UI that lists words that look like the word you are attempting to type. That allows you to more easily select the exact word. This UI is used in Google's iPhone app. I wonder why Apple does not use it system wide.

Even on the Mac, if you mistakenly add a word to the "ignore spelling" list you have to go through some funky steps to fix it. Perhaps someone has made an app for it, but Apple surely doesn't have an easy way to add and remove words.
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post #86 of 262
Oh yes, I am saying the battery is drained from frequent use of the apps, not from the apps existence on the phone.

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I'd wafer his point was that most uses have many apps that they are constantly aceessing --not that the additonal apps are draining the battery just from being installed-- whereas other phones aren't are excessively used.
post #87 of 262
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I don't believe this at all. If it were true Nokia would be using this fact in its marketing. At the very least if it were true it would have been mentioned in the last two years of debate about the iPhone multi-tasking.

Well of course this is true... that's what you get when you have 128mb RAM.

Quote from the All About Symbian Review

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The system RAM has been doubled to 128MB, meaning that there's now around 95MB of free RAM after booting. This figure is slightly higher than you might have guessed because the N95 8GB also features 'demand paging', i.e. only the bits of applications that are strictly needed are loaded into RAM, other bits are left on disk until needed. Although demand paging is really only for Symbian OS 9.3 and above, the OS 9.2-running N95 8GB has had the feature back-ported specifically for the OS and S60 built-in applications. In fact, it may even be possible to include demand paging into a future firmware release for the original N95. Watch this space. In summary, you'll never run out of RAM with the N95 8GB, even on the largest web pages, while simultaneously viewing the largest image and keeping ten Java games running in the background.

Plus I did it myself when I first got the phone. You can open everything that's in the main menu, and in folders within the main menu, at once, without running out of RAM or slowing the device down. I find it amusing that you can't believe a 2 year old device is capable of doing this
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What a stupid article. Of course they are similar in construction. They share the same characteristics and size. How else would you jam all that crap into handheld device?

I was thinking the same thing, but it's another chance to view a competing product in an Apple-light, no? It's still a bizarre comparison, as all these devices are pretty compact, full of radios, RAM, a CPU, etc, there's only so much that can different.

As as the Pre, I'm pretty interested, but like with the iPhone, neither are on Verizon, so I really don't care at this point, that and most everyone I know is on Verizon, and that saves me minutes.
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It also is easier to transport in your pants pocket- very cool.As a long time user of a slider (LG Chocolate) this is a major feature for me as it maintains a small form to put into your pants pocket. While I don't mind walking around with an iPod Touch in my pocket, anything thicker (iPhone) is simply to large.

I love teckstud logic!

You don't like the iPhone because it's too thick so you like the Pre better because it's thicker than the iPhone!
post #90 of 262
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Well of course this is true... that's what you get when you have 128mb RAM.

The iPhone has 128MB of RAM. The Pre has 256MB.


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Plus I did it myself when I first got the phone. You can open everything that's in the main menu, and in folders within the main menu, at once, without running out of RAM or slowing the device down. I find it amusing that you can't believe a 2 year old device is capable of doing this

I do believe you can open every application, I don't believe you can open every application with no detriment to the phone's performance. This isn't possible on a computer, as by definition every open app takes away from the over all performance of every other app.
post #91 of 262
I didnt like the pre at all, I dont like the iphone either.
In fact, its plain pitiful that NO American carrier lets you do simultaneous
voice and DATA.

I can't be in my browser looking for a restaurant in google maps or in a
'search near me' GPS type emulation *AND* tell the people waiting on the line
YES IM COMING.

Whats the point?

The pre multitasks but cant do voice and data and the iphone cant EVEN multitask...

Tell the carriers to build REAL networks. Its really sad how far behind we are.
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Posting from your iPhone I see....

Probably not, as it would have at least tried to autocorrect the spelling.
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I usually put them in different pockets.

I thought you were just happy to see me.
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Again AT&T sucks. ANy other 3G network around the world doesn't have the problems this crappy network has in the US.

Do you have anything to back that up? Have you ever used a cell phone abroad? I would never say ATT is great but then again I live in manhattan and don't get Verizon reception in my apartment.
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Originally Posted by isb View Post

I didnt like the pre at all, I dont like the iphone either.
In fact, its plain pitiful that NO American carrier lets you do simultaneous
voice and DATA.

I can't be in my browser looking for a restaurant in google maps or in a
'search near me' GPS type emulation *AND* tell the people waiting on the line
YES IM COMING.

Whats the point?

The pre multitasks but cant do voice and data and the iphone cant EVEN multitask...

Tell the carriers to build REAL networks. Its really sad how far behind we are.

The iphone on 3G allows simultaneous voice and data.
post #96 of 262
Its technology standards issue. Any UMTS 3G phone can do both voice and data at the same time. EV-DO phones cannot, which is what the Pre is.


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I didnt like the pre at all, I dont like the iphone either.
In fact, its plain pitiful that NO American carrier lets you do simultaneous
voice and DATA.
post #97 of 262
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As a matter of fact, we don't want you to own an iPhone anymore, your privileges have been revoked. Back AWAY from the iPhone sir...

Welcome! And by all means, please keep posting....
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Originally Posted by isb View Post

I didnt like the pre at all, I dont like the iphone either.
In fact, its plain pitiful that NO American carrier lets you do simultaneous
voice and DATA.

I can't be in my browser looking for a restaurant in google maps or in a
'search near me' GPS type emulation *AND* tell the people waiting on the line
YES IM COMING.

Whats the point?

The pre multitasks but cant do voice and data and the iphone cant EVEN multitask...

Tell the carriers to build REAL networks. Its really sad how far behind we are.

Just out of curiosity... Have you ever tried doing that on an iPhone???!!! You can be on the phone and on the browser or on Goggle maps at the same time!

How can you say such a ridiculous thing when it is absolutely not true???!!!
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I know the iPhone has multitasking. Multitasking isn't the problem. But letting the user or the program choose how or when to multitask is a very dangerous thing. On a desk- or laptop you don't have this problem very quickly. But on a phone with limited resources in processor power, RAM and battery life. I do believe that at this point Apple is using the best solution for these challenges.

I think calling it "very dangerous" is a little extreme, don't you?

Clearly there is a master list of apps that can run in the background. That's how the phone, the iPod, email, etc can run in the background. So what would be so dangerous about allowing the user, through a setting buried in the Settings app, add ONE SINGLE app to that list?

If battery life suffered, the user could change the selected app or disable the function entirely. 90% of users would never know the function was even there and their use of the phone would be unchanged. But for the 10% who want it, why not give them this very safe method of trying it out?

I'd love to be able to have Palringo running in the background about once a month when I am at an airport and want to chat, but also want to browse the web. I'd also love to let Pandora run in the background on the rare instance when I listen to it. As it is I hardly ever use it because when I do, my phone is cut down to be only an iPod.

You really think not allowing it at all is a better solution than what I describe above?
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Craps and blackjack are my games. Its too early to gamble, I dont care for a dead casino or the weirdos that gamble in the AM, its a lot like Wal-Mart in the middle of the night.

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Banter means to talk, so it makes sense

You're arguing with the guy who wrote:

"To a certain extend your comment..."

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The iphone on 3G allows simultaneous voice and data.

Seriously, does the OP really not know that you can do voice and data on the iphone simultaneously on 3G?
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I think calling it "very dangerous" is a little extreme, don't you?

Clearly there is a master list of apps that can run in the background. That's how the phone, the iPod, email, etc can run in the background. So what would be so dangerous about allowing the user, through a setting buried in the Settings app, add ONE SINGLE app to that list?

If battery life suffered, the user could change the selected app or disable the function entirely. 90% of users would never know the function was even there and their use of the phone would be unchanged. But for the 10% who want it, why not give them this very safe method of trying it out?

I'd love to be able to have Palringo running in the background about once a month when I am at an airport and want to chat, but also want to browse the web. I'd also love to let Pandora run in the background on the rare instance when I listen to it. As it is I hardly ever use it because when I do, my phone is cut down to be only an iPod.

You really think not allowing it at all is a better solution than what I describe above?

how many apps actually "run" in the background? i know the ipod app does. but email works by the badge system...just using alerts, not fully running. is that correct?
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Seahawk banned ?? lol
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Not just banned, they appear to have nuked his account from orbit, which, of course, was the only way to be sure.
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how many apps actually "run" in the background? i know the ipod app does. but email works by the badge system...just using alerts, not fully running. is that correct?

I don't know about email, but certainly the Phone runs in the background. And then of course there are all the hidden functions that run in the background too. So adding one more app would not be doubling the number of apps running in the background, it would only add a small percentage more activity. Plus, of course, the selected app would not always be running in the background, only when you actually used it and didn't exit it (which is a function Apple would have to enable somehow - maybe a special X that appears on the "blessed" app).
post #106 of 262
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Banter means to talk, so it makes sense

Actually, banter isn't a synonym for "talk", it specifically means "light hearted back-and-forth" or "a teasing exchange."

In the context of your original usage the better choice would have been something like "carry on" or "hold forth", with some connotation of tendentiousness.
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post #107 of 262
I don't understand the complaints about the battery life and I use my phone fairly heavily for browsing, mail, and internet.

For multitasking, about the only app I can see any use to keep running in the background would be IM, and it's not necessary that it keep running. I use AIM for instance and I just set it to forward to my phone as an SMS when I'm not logged in. Problem solved. If I get an SMS IM, I can reply to as a normal IM. It doesn't need to be running 24x7. E-mail checks at intervals, so that's a no brainer, and web page states are automatically saved when you switch to something else. The simple fact is that the iPhone can multitask, but only for those system apps that apple allows. The apps that they do allow make sense and serve my needs. I feel no need to have 4 apps running at once, especially on a phone of all things. About the limit of what I do need to multitask works very well. iPod music while at the gym, with sms, and possibly web browsing to look up some odd fact or whatnot. Email, web, and sms pretty much sums up most of my activity.

With my typical use, I get about 3 days standby, and about 3 hours of actual 'on' usage. I've turned off push notifications as I have about 4 email accounts defined. I don't turn of 3G however. I use WiFi almost all the time with occasional 3g. I also occasionally use a game or an app. I would think my usage is pretty typical.I should note that I'm using 3.0 software which seems to turn off or minimize 3g usage when it's not needed (I don't know that for a fact, but I do notice a small delay before it 'connects' when I open a browser for instance.

Considering a typical laptop gets about 5-6 hours usage with a MUCH larger battery, IMO, it does very well considering it's not even as big as a laptop battery. On top of that, it has GPS, camera, touch screen interface, 480x320 full color screen, etc.

As to dropped calls, I actually had that issue. It turned out to be my sim card, not the phone. The Apple folks referred me to an AT&T store, who promptly replaced it after a few questions and my dropped call issues went away.
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post #108 of 262
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Count your blessings you don't live in NYC area and rely on AT&T.

I guess I must be uniquely lucky everytime I am in NYC (which is at least once a month): I get superb signals just about everywhere that I am (typicaly midtown all the way down to Battery Park).

I recall that there were a lot of complaints about the Edge version when first introduced, but is it really still true that the city gets lousy reception even with iPhone 3G? Can anyone who actually lives there confirm? (I.e., the question is not for teckstud).
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The iPhone has 128MB of RAM. The Pre has 256MB.

Even when the iPhone gets the same (or similar) CPU, GPU and 256MB RAM, the Pre and other smartphones with lighter OSes should still be able to have more open apps than the iPhone. There seems to be some people who dont realize that the iPhone OS X is pretty large in comparison to other mobile OSes despite how light it is in comparison with the desktop version. The previous poster who states that Apple was just being lazy by not making Mac OS X even lighter than it is for mobile use simply has no clue.

PS: I wouldnt be surprised to have one new SW feature of the next iPhone be a background app or two now that there is double the RAM and more CPU at hand.


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Do you have anything to back that up? Have you ever used a cell phone abroad? I would never say ATT is great but then again I live in manhattan and don't get Verizon reception in my apartment.

If he did he wouldnt be our beloved resident troll boy.


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The iphone on 3G allows simultaneous voice and data.

Just to be clear, any 3G network can do both voice and data. One of the downfalls of GSM over CDMA is that while on a CDMA2000 network you can make a call in CDMA which uses considerably less power than a WCDMA connection which will make a call in 3G.
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Not just banned, they appear to have nuked his account from orbit, which, of course, was the only way to be sure.

This guy's demon's had demon's.
I feel sorry for these lost trolls who carry around so much pain.
Everyone here tried to reason with him .

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Seahawk banned ?? lol

Dude your speed is so low. Damn i feel bad for you. Anyway enjoy Las Vegas !!!! PLAY 12 and 18 for me on the roulette wheel !!

Get up right now and walk away from your computer.Go find some daylight !!

Why? If AppleInsider had a more secure way of keeping someone out rather than email verification I'd be more concerned.

AI ever thought of Mac Address for verification? It may be a little more secure.

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Teckstudian logic would say that despite my numerous multi-quoted posts that actually make a statement beyond your canned anti-Apple, anti-AT&T rhetoric.



That is about half of my AT&T max and about 70% of my norm.

I am out in the daylight. I have been given a cabana at Hard Rocks Rehab pool. The all day party starts at 10:30am. Its only 8am here, my friends are still sleeping or driving over from Cali, and its too early for mojitos, thought I did have a mimosa with breakfast.

Craps and blackjack are my games. Its too early to gamble, I dont care for a dead casino or the weirdos that gamble in the AM, its a lot like Wal-Mart in the middle of the night.

Yea you get that ole 4am large empty supermarket blues with those errie lights.

ENJOY.


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'Mac' address? Wow, I did not know only Macs had MACs!

Welcome back.

In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.
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Constantly turning on an off a radio isn't an elegant solution. That's five taps on each startup and shut down that shouldn't be necessary in my opinion. Shouldn't the device do that kind of power management on its own?



It helps to "know your enemy", and a few of your statements show that you don't. Nokia uses Webkit. It only took me a minute to find that and to find that it has a compass. They do offer touch capability now, though that probably depends on the model.

I don't know how iPhone's applications are necessarily desktop class, they're nifty, but desktop class is overselling it. Maybe better than most other portable platforms. Maybe some iPhone apps are on the level of a relatively simple desktop applet, but most are of the complexity of a Dashboard widget. For example, there are a few very simple word processors, but nothing on the scale of Pages that I've seen, more like TextEdit at best.

Nokia uses QtWebKit and it's not a full WebKit port.
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I don't know about email, but certainly the Phone runs in the background. And then of course there are all the hidden functions that run in the background too. So adding one more app would not be doubling the number of apps running in the background, it would only add a small percentage more activity. Plus, of course, the selected app would not always be running in the background, only when you actually used it and didn't exit it (which is a function Apple would have to enable somehow - maybe a special X that appears on the "blessed" app).

Its not just apps, but a lot of frameworks that are running. The Mail app does run in the background to check and load mail, even if you have it setup manually and then leave the app it still completes its task, unlike other apps. I could be wrong, but I think that mobile Safari in 3.0 is finishing loading after I leave the app. At the very least, its not reloading every page when you jump back into the app like it started doing in v2.0.

Besides the phone, iPod, clock (timer/alarm), springboard, Mail process and MobileMe sync processes I dont know of exactly what else is running but the iPhone seems to use more than half the RAM at any one time for the system. If you have a jailbroken iPhone you can install SysInfo to see all the processes running.


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As to dropped calls, I actually had that issue. It turned out to be my sim card, not the phone. The Apple folks referred me to an AT&T store, who promptly replaced it after a few questions and my dropped call issues went away.

That is interesting. I havent heard about the SIM card being the cause for dropped calls unless your phone is losing the SIM card connection, but Id figure that would result in the device saying No SIM card detected.

Welcome to AI, glad to see some rational new posters on these forums.


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Why? If AppleInsider had a more secure way of keeping someone out rather than email verification I'd be more concerned.

AI ever thought of Mac Address for verification? It may be a little more secure.

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What was that yesterday about people like you dont get banned.

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In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.

Yeah, and the acronym is MAC, not Mac. I guess I should have added a "mild sarcasm" tag.....
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While I don't mind walking around with an iPod Touch in my pocket, anything thicker (iPhone) is simply to large.

I walk around with a wad a cash at least twice as thick as my iPhone and it doesn't bother me a bit.

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In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.

He was goofing on you.

As for you suggestion for AI to ban by MAC address that seems a little extreme. Post banned trolls either go away or come back with a better attitude, not by making their first post a caustic statement calling people shitheads and thinking that they have found some previously unknown loophole.

BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.


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Nokia uses QtWebKit and it's not a full WebKit port.

Nokia and Mozilla have been using Qt to port Firefox 3 to the mobile platform as Fennec, a small fox, for over a year now. I hope they get this done quickly because Mozilla has really dropped the ball on the mobile platform at this point. With the growth of smartphones and internet capable PMPs its possible that WebKit could beat Gecko (Firefox) by installed base within a relatively short time.
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Pre - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 and 256MB of Ram

If the iphone has the same specs or better we better get multitasking apple..
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BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.

That's cool -- I did not know that! How does a lay person do that?
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