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post #81 of 167
6/8/09 at 11:59am
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Difficult to tell from the text feed, but it sounds to me from the fact that they say it grew from 25M to 75M in the last two years that they're including 40M iPod touch/iPhone users in that figure.

No I don't think so. OS X for the iPhone is not the same.
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post #82 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:03pm
Well well well. They will be selling the current 8 GB model for $99 after all.
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post #83 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:04pm
So far this is one of the better keynotes I remember.
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post #84 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:05pm
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Yup. All the old apps, more than a few that don't work, more that don't work well, and more than a few that you need to be an expert in so as to be able to set up on the Pre through Classic.

Yup, plenty of good old apps.

No touch interface for them either in most cases.

And, there are about 30,000 of those old apps as compared to over 50,000 for the iPhone.

That's besides the point. It has MORE apps than Apple. Besides; Apple's apps are mostly all fart apps. YAY; I can run a "stupid tests" on my iPhone. YEEEEEEEES!!! Palm at least had professional apps that people can use in the real world.
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post #85 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:06pm
Pic of Steve Jobs as God at http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/reso...ood%20jobs.jpg
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post #86 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

So far this is one of the better keynotes I remember.

Only nice app ( other than speed boost ) new Iphone has that i'd like is Voice dialing ... i wonder if that requires some kind of hardware or someone smart will figure out how to get it working on older 3G model.
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post #87 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

No I don't think so. OS X for the iPhone is not the same.

I think they included the 40million iPhone/iPod Touch users in there.
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post #88 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:07pm
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Well; the most exciting part for me is the price drop. The rest is pretty much a big fat shrug> I don't care. In fact; since I don't care about the flash size THAT much; for 100$; the 3G's a steal. The rest of the stuff sounds like more abilities for developers to make fart apps. Whoopy.
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post #89 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:09pm
Now, thats the way to do it.

Get your Snow Leopard for nothing and your chicks for free!
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post #90 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:09pm
worst wwdc ever
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post #91 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:09pm
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If you like fart apps... Yes... And there's more than 30k; did you actually check?

Most of Palms apps are crap too.

I've been using Palmphones since the Samsung i300. My last was the Treo 700p.

So, I'm pretty familiar with Palms apps.

And unless they drop the prices on most of them by a lot, they will fade away even more quickly than otherwise. Most are no longer worth what is being charged for them.

And I said "about".
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post #92 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by wirespeed View Post

I must not be making myself clear... They're complaining about having to pay the $129... For their machines that are running Tiger, instead of just the $29 to go to Snow Leopard. There was also someone complaining about not being able to use the $49 family upgrade pack to update all of his three machines because 2 are running Leopard, but one is running Tiger.

Again, I don't see complaining, I see someone asking how it will work and asking for clarification about what specifically can be done.

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No I don't think so. OS X for the iPhone is not the same.

You don't think so what?

They gave the numbers without iPhone and including iPhone, seems completely honest and transparent to me.
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post #93 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Yes, they are. So?

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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

No I don't think so. OS X for the iPhone is not the same.

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Originally Posted by mrochester View Post

I think they included the 40million iPhone/iPod Touch users in there.

The iPhone/iPod is so vastly different to desktop OS X (in market alone) that the two figures shouldn't be lumped together and it cerrtainly makes a big difference to the stat.

EDIT: Ah well I missed that in reading the text updates... Thanks.

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They gave the numbers without iPhone and including iPhone, seems completely honest and transparent to me.
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post #94 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

So far this is one of the better keynotes I remember.

A lot to look forward to and there will inevitably be more surprises throughout the year.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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post #95 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:12pm
Excellent announcements today! Very exciting!
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post #96 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by legend79 View Post

Well; the most exciting part for me is the price drop. The rest is pretty much a big fat shrug> I don't care. In fact; since I don't care about the flash size THAT much; for 100$; the 3G's a steal. The rest of the stuff sounds like more abilities for developers to make fart apps. Whoopy.

Does you boss at Palm know that you're on an Apple site? Or, is this part of the job description for the day?
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post #97 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:12pm
Any word on upgraded RAM on the iPhone? I didn't see anything except the storage is going to 32GB.
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post #98 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:13pm
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worst wwdc ever

Why do you say that?
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post #99 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:13pm
I was hoping for "Oh and one more thing", have Jobs walk out and...

*sigh*
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post #100 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by mrochester View Post

I think they included the 40million iPhone/iPod Touch users in there.

I don't know why. They really aren't the same to the user. About three years ago there were almost 40 million Mac users, most being PPC. Many of those weren't on OS X.

Since then they've sold about 30 million machines, so I don't know. Maybe.
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post #101 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:14pm
for keeping us up to date!

We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

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We mean Apple no harm.

People are lovers, basically. -- Engadget livebloggers at the iPad mini event.

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post #102 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by minderbinder View Post

You don't think so what?

They gave the numbers without iPhone and including iPhone, seems completely honest and transparent to me.

Did they say, including the iPhone/iTouch? I didn't read that.
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post #103 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by legend79 View Post

Well; the most exciting part for me is the price drop. The rest is pretty much a big fat shrug> I don't care. In fact; since I don't care about the flash size THAT much; for 100$; the 3G's a steal. The rest of the stuff sounds like more abilities for developers to make fart apps. Whoopy.

You really don't know as much as you think you do and you're on the wrong site to try to get away with that. One of the big guys here is going to show up shortly and they'll take good care of you.

I'll enjoy watching.

Have a nice day.
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post #104 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:16pm
ATT comes thru as real tech luddites from today's presentation. Hope they get their act together soon (or at least make an announcement as to when they'll do so).
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post #105 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by JupiterOne View Post

Any word on upgraded RAM on the iPhone? I didn't see anything except the storage is going to 32GB.

That's too techie for the public show. It would go over the heads of most people.
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post #106 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

ATT comes thru as real tech luddites from today's presentation. Hope they get their act together soon (or at least make an announcement as to when they'll do so).

It is odd. You would think they'd be the first out of the gate, considering their relationship.
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post #107 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

That's too techie for the public show. It would go over the heads of most people.

Maybe, but I thought this was a public show at a techie conference.
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post #108 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Why do you say that?

I felt bored during the live feed. Iphone with no new design. Faster ok, but can it make something the iphone 3g can't, apart from the compass functionnality? Video is ok, but nothing revolutionnary.
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post #109 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:21pm
With the release of the iPhone 3GS, are they going to update the iPod touch with the faster processor? Seems like there will be apps that can use it down the road.
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post #110 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:21pm
Have a look a look at this:

Requires new two-year AT&T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB).

Thank you Apple and AT&T for appreciating your current customers!
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post #111 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

I don't know why. They really aren't the same to the user. About three years ago there were almost 40 million Mac users, most being PPC. Many of those weren't on OS X.

Since then they've sold about 30 million machines, so I don't know. Maybe.

I think this might have been misinterpreted. He said "We've tripled the amount of users since iPhone". I think what he meant was that the number of OSX users has tripled as a result of people buying Macs following the purchase of an iPhone, not that the iPhone is included in that statistic. I think some of us just got the wrong end of the stick - it wasn't 100% clear at first.
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post #112 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:23pm
It would be a great idea to take the 15 minute guided tour on the new iPhone before one puts their foot in their mouth.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/
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post #113 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Why do you say that?

I assume he's being ironic..

Wow. Great keynote. Not good for the pocket though. I was expecting to buy a new iPhone later this month. Seems I need to buy a new MBP as well now :-)
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post #114 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:24pm
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Maybe, but I thought this was a public show at a techie conference.

I'm sure the developers will be told.
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post #115 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Did they say, including the iPhone/iTouch? I didn't read that.

Yep, from Engadget's coverage:

"Here's a chart of OS X users over 10 years." It goes from 5m to 25m. "But something has happening..." he changes the chart to move up to 75m. "We've tripled the amount of users since iPhone."
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post #116 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by minderbinder View Post

Yep, from Engadget's coverage:

"Here's a chart of OS X users over 10 years." It goes from 5m to 25m. "But something has happening..." he changes the chart to move up to 75m. "We've tripled the amount of users since iPhone."

Like I said, I think he's worded that badly, and I think what he means is that as a result of the iPhone, more and more people are buying Macs, and that's what has pushed up the figures. However, it could be interpreted either way - it's vague at best.
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post #117 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:34pm
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Start your complaining engine TechStud! New MacBooks with a non-replaceable battery! Lasts 7 hours, but I am sure that won't be long enough for you. LOL. No ExpressCard slot on the 15" anymore. They replaced it with an SD slot instead.

SD is great. 13" has battery for 7 hours- what's not to like?
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post #118 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX View Post

I felt bored during the live feed. Iphone with no new design. Faster ok, but can it make something the iphone 3g can't, apart from the compass functionnality? Video is ok, but nothing revolutionnary.

I know! There should have been more explosions!
They spoke of the sayings and doings of their commander, the grand duke, and told stories of his kindness and irascibility.
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They spoke of the sayings and doings of their commander, the grand duke, and told stories of his kindness and irascibility.
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post #119 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by mrochester View Post

Like I said, I think he's worded that badly, and I think what he means is that as a result of the iPhone, more and more people are buying Macs, and that's what has pushed up the figures. However, it could be interpreted either way - it's vague at best.

Should be easy enough to figure out...has Apple sold 50 million computers to new users since the iPhone first came out about two years ago? Or have they sold that many iPhones plus touches?
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post #120 of 167
6/8/09 at 12:35pm
I am surprised there was no appearance of Steve here. I also thought there would be a 30inch LED screen as well, not complaining, just surprised. Great show overall
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