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Those eager to see Snow Leopard in action can now see it through an unofficial but detailed series of videos detailing the upcoming Mac OS X release.

The tour, built out of a series of YouTube videos from MyAppleGuide, shows some of the key changes made to the operating system in the WWDC build released to developers earlier this month.

So far, the six clips on hand tackle core interface features like the updated Finder, Preview, Stacks, System Preferences and the overhauled interface of QuickTime Player X.

An introduction (shown below) also discusses some of the harder to quantify experiences of Snow Leopard, including significantly improved installation and startup tiimes as well as a default setting that hides the Macintosh HD icon. Not all of the features shown during Phil Schiller's keynote are accessible, however, and omit Expose integration with the Dock, among other features shown at WWDC.












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He keeps calling it Quicktime "X" in his videos.

Isn't it Quicktime "10"? ... or what?
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"Macintosh HD" is the only place I can think of where Apple's current products use "Macintosh" spelled out.
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He keeps calling it Quicktime "X" in his videos.

Isn't it Quicktime "10"? ... or what?

Technically, yes, but X is the Roman numeral for ten so its only incorrect to those pedant about the vocalization.
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I really don't know what Apple is thinking with the tasteless purple smear desktop and that hideously tacky Quicktime X icon. The conventional wisdom among pretty much *all* my artist friends (and me included), that one would have to be blind or stoned to think they are attractive in any way.

When Leopard came out the first question I was asked by almost every person I installed it for was "how do I get rid of that desktop picture for good?"
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post #7 of 76
Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

I really don't know what Apple is thinking with the tasteless purple smear desktop and that hideously tacky Quicktime X icon. The conventional wisdom among pretty much *all* my artist friends (and me included), that one would have to be blind or stoned to think they are attractive in any way.

When Leopard came out the first question I was asked by almost every person I installed it for was "how do I get rid of that desktop picture for good?"

I like the old Leopard aurora a lot. I like the new aurora even better Luckily, conventional wisdom is only subjective.*

(I don't care about the Q icon. I like the colors, but I don't like how the tail has no clear relationship to the sphere.)

* Is anyone taking bets on when Microsoft abandons early-OS-X-style blue-smear desktops (which they imitated in Vista) and starts imitating the purple or the aurora borealis? (And I wonder if they'll REMOVE the glass stuff when Apple eventually does, just like they originally added it to follow Apple.)
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Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator

yes, apprently some people speak with accents.
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Originally Posted by l008com View Post

Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator

I know eh?! Odd accent. Can't place it. He seems to have difficulty with some consonants.
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Originally Posted by Takeo View Post

I know eh?! Odd accent. Can't place it. He seems to have difficulty with some consonants.

Some words are extra slow, extra spaced, then some words are like 3 words all crammed together, very hard to follow his words. But the videos are all just the same old stuff we've already seen anyway so who cares.
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...The conventional wisdom among pretty much *all* my artist friends (and me included), that one would have to be blind or stoned to think they are attractive in any way....


Well, whenever I hear "artists" moaning about what other people should think is or isn't "attractive".... I ignore them and their egos.
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Well, whenever I hear "artists" moaning about what other people should think is or isn't "attractive".... I ignore them and their egos.

haha, reminds me of my company logos and business cards i designed, that everyone thinks look awesome, except a few graphic artists. I guess anything you don't make yourself looks like crap, that must be why I like them so much :-)

But more on topic, I actually do hate the default background in 10.5, but I do like 10.6's better.
But I took 10.5's, opened it in photoshop and shifted the colors so it was green instead of purple, it looked very cool, much cooler than the Leopard default.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1110/aurorau.jpg
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Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator

English with a foreign accent from India is my best guess. Please no 'oversensitive', 'look under every rock for xenophobes' type reactions. thank you!


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Even though this would have been a valuable security asset for all OS X users.

It's because Apple would make their own version and it would allow all Apple (and Google) outgoing connections regardless. Apple in my opinion isn't too keen on privacy.

All those update checks are really data mining in disguise.

If I don't want dashboard advisory daemon contacting Apple twice a day, that's my choice. I disabled dashboard long ago. I also blocked GoogleUpdate daemon too, which one has to install to get GoogleEarth even if you don't run it.

So now Little Snitch will still have a place in my menu bar.
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post #15 of 76
How un-cosmopolitan.

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Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator
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Well, whenever I hear "artists" moaning about what other people should think is or isn't "attractive".... I ignore them and their egos.

Hey dude
Virgil is a cool guy so lay off. Its an open forum and someone can say what they will free of not nice replies.
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post #17 of 76
Best watched with sound off.
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Hey dude
Virgil is a cool guy so lay off. Its an open forum and someone can say what they will free of not nice replies.

you've got to admit YodaMac has a good point though. anyway, i have a B.A. in Art History and i consulted myself and i decided that the background is pretty nice.
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English with a foreign accent from India is my best guess. Please no 'oversensitive', 'look under every rock for xenophobes' type reactions. thank you!

I'm guessing he's Indian-Canadian.
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He keeps calling it Quicktime "X" in his videos.

Isn't it Quicktime "10"? ... or what?

Who cares.
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Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator

A side-effect of trisomy 21, no doubt.

Really, though, how are you having trouble understanding him? It's pretty clear, pretty basic English. \

EDIT: I think, all things considered, it looks like a very nice update. Granted, we've seen it all already -- and Virgil is beyond right about the Quicktime X icon. Blech. Hopefully they reconsider this design before sending it out to the masses.
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Originally Posted by YodaMac View Post

He keeps calling it Quicktime "X" in his videos.

Isn't it Quicktime "10"? ... or what?

My error.
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Originally Posted by nagromme View Post

"Macintosh HD" is the only place I can think of where Apple's current products use "Macintosh" spelled out.

In the OS, you are correct - amazing. Doing a search of Apple.com for Macintosh is even more interesting \
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Originally Posted by Takeo View Post

I know eh?! Odd accent. Can't place it. He seems to have difficulty with some consonants.

He sounds like elmer fudd.
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Where have you been?

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/#quicktimex

here have YOU been?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime#QuickTime_X
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Originally Posted by MrENGLISH™ View Post

Where have YOU been?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime#QuickTime_X

I admit, "I misunderstood the issue."
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here have YOU been?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime#QuickTime_X

Anyone can edit Wiki pages. Maybe this Wiki description is right; maybe not.

But the Apple URL is:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/#quicktimex

ending with "quicktimex."

QuickTime X (10) still seems correct, though.
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What the hell is this about? If you think that I didn't know that…

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Anyone can edit Wiki pages. Maybe this Wiki description is right; maybe not.

But the Apple URL is:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/#quicktimex

ending with "quicktimex."

QuickTime X (10) still seems correct, though.

I don't know why Abster2core edited his original reply to me... maybe because he discovered the guy DID pronounce it as "10" and not "X". Anyways... the answer to this question lies in Apple's very own keynote demo of Quicktime X which can be found @ 25:12 of the WWDC video!

Just like how OS X is pronounced OS "TEN" and not "X"
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Not all of the features shown during Phil Schiller's keynote are accessible

Phil Schiller didn't show off Snow Leopard, Bertrand Serlet did. How and why is this fact overlooked so often? Do people even pay attention?
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haha, reminds me of my company logos and business cards i designed, that everyone thinks look awesome, except a few graphic artists. I guess anything you don't make yourself looks like crap, that must be why I like them so much :-)

But more on topic, I actually do hate the default background in 10.5, but I do like 10.6's better.
But I took 10.5's, opened it in photoshop and shifted the colors so it was green instead of purple, it looked very cool, much cooler than the Leopard default.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1110/aurorau.jpg

I just hope they fix the terrible banding in the Leopard Aurora.
post #31 of 76
The desktop doesn't bother me as I always change it anyway. So it doesn't matter to me.
But I do agree the Quicktime icon is gratuitous and uncharacteristic of Apple design.


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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

I really don't know what Apple is thinking with the tasteless purple smear desktop and that hideously tacky Quicktime X icon. The conventional wisdom among pretty much *all* my artist friends (and me included), that one would have to be blind or stoned to think they are attractive in any way.
post #32 of 76
Agreed that the wallpaper and design are OK.

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Phil Schiller didn't show off Snow Leopard, Bertrand Serlet did. How and why is this fact overlooked so often? Do people even pay attention?

Because we don't like Phil, he tells us what we think we like and he thinks he gets away with it.
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post #34 of 76
Can change the boot screen in Leopard.

System/Library/CoreServices/DefaultDesktop.jpg

Save the old one elsewhere, replace with a new one with same name/location
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you've got to admit YodaMac has a good point though. anyway, i have a B.A. in Art History and i consulted myself and i decided that the background is pretty nice.

+1

Funny enough, I sometimes say OS X. I mean if you look at a red word that spells blue, sometimes you're bound to say red!
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I'm guessing he's Indian-Canadian.

>sigh< He's Jamaican, people. Clearly Shinehead still has work to do...

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Videos will disappear in 3, 2, 1....

I'm surprised they're still up too. Posting them isn't a breach of his developer NDA?

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He keeps calling it Quicktime "X" in his videos. Isn't it Quicktime "10"? ... or what?

That irked me too.

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Technically, yes, but X is the Roman numeral for ten so its only incorrect to those pedant about the vocalization.

"Pedant"? Cool word! So that's what I am! Being a former TEFL teacher, I guess it was inevitable.

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Anyways... the answer to this question lies in Apple's very own keynote demo of Quicktime X which can be found @ 25:12 of the WWDC video! Just like how OS X is pronounced OS "TEN" and not "X"

Exactly. Apple pronounces it "ten," so "ten" it is as far as I'm concerned.

Then again, the Roman numeral X as the name of the Mac OS brand does still trip up people unfamiliar with it, Apple or the history of the Mac OS. Carrying the naming convention over to QuickTime clearly hasn't driven the concept home for many. And there are still others who don't care. Have there been any hints that Apple may eventually retire the Roman numeral X branding in favor of something I dunno less prone to different pronunciations?

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Wow i'm having a very hard time understanding the narrator

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Really, though, how are you having trouble understanding him? It's pretty clear, pretty basic English. \

He sounds Indian to me. Non-native English speakers often have pronunciation patterns in English (influenced by their native languages) that sometimes sound strange or confusing to native English speakers. I'm sure the reverse is true too. I play racquetball with an Indian guy. He speaks perfectly good English, but he is a little hard to understand sometimes. Instead of pronouncing 7 as "SEV-en" as most native English speakers do, he pronounces it "se-VUN." And the the "v" comes out more like a "b" sometimes too. He also tends to mumble the score when he serves as well so his "7" often sounds like "one" (meant for eleven) and I think he's trying to sneak some points in on me.

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I really don't know what Apple is thinking with [] that hideously tacky Quicktime X icon.

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EDIT: I think [] Virgil is beyond right about the Quicktime X icon. Blech. Hopefully they reconsider this design before sending it out to the masses.

I don't find the QT X icon as offensive as others here seem to, but the design does seem to be more retro than forward. Reminds me of Tiger.

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Because we don't like Phil, he tells us what we think we like and he thinks he gets away with it.

I like Phil.

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Those eager to see Snow Leopard in action can now see it through an unofficial but detailed series of videos detailing the upcoming Mac OS X release.

How is this video legal, for one thing? Isn't there a non-disclosure agreement on OS X?

Secondly, is this all there is? Man, OS X hasn't changed much. No wonder they're selling it cheap! It's like a zero to me from what I can see. Couldn't care less if my icons are big or I can share my scanner over the network -- who does that?
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These videos won't technically be legal, but I doubt Apple will run after the posters. (I've got Snow Leopard and reviewed the NDA)

Why? Because these details have already been released. The NDA's aren't about locking off people from detailing announced features, its about not disclosing 1) unannounced product details or 2) industry secrets that are important for developers to know ahead of time, but shouldn't be allowed to competitors.

The reason Apple kept the NDA over the iPhone SDK after its official release was because industry secrets needed to be protected, but used and understood by developers. It was only dropped because Apple decided any detriment caused by allowing out details of iPhone OS was outweighed by the affect the NDA was having on developers in a learning and community sense.

*Please note these details are provided directly from Apple's communication with me as a developer (though these details are not themselves covered by NDA)
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A side-effect of trisomy 21, no doubt.

You're making a cheap crack by accusing the poster of having Downs syndrome?

You'd find a joke about him being black or gay or blind or Hispanic equally funny I guess. Since when is making jokes about learning disabilities ok around here?

You really are a nasty A-Grade jerk.
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