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post #41 of 76
6/22/09 at 10:17pm
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6/22/09 at 10:21pm
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I'm guessing he's Indian-Canadian.

Naw, he sounds more Jamaican-Canadian.
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6/22/09 at 11:33pm
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post #44 of 76
6/23/09 at 1:20am
This isn't the first time that I've seen the ability to play back video previews from thumbnails in the finder touted as a new feature in Snow Leopard, but I can do that in Leopard.

Is there some aspect to this that's changed that I'm not getting?
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post #45 of 76
6/23/09 at 2:18am
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This isn't the first time that I've seen the ability to play back video previews from thumbnails in the finder touted as a new feature in Snow Leopard, but I can do that in Leopard.

Is there some aspect to this that's changed that I'm not getting?

I just checked my finder in Leopard, and I can only play video in the preview window of column view [aka the best view] and in cover flow. In the icon and list view I cannot.

Looks like the new feature then is being able to play videos in icon view, which makes sense seeing as you can now enlarge the icons to 512×512 as opposed to the current 128×128.
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post #46 of 76
6/23/09 at 2:39am
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He keeps calling it Quicktime "X" in his videos.

Isn't it Quicktime "10"? ... or what?

LOL. Is that all you got out of the video? It is Quick Time 10 and not Quick Time X, so the X is the Roman Numeral 10. Also Quick Time is TWO separate words and not one as you have it spelled... See what I mean? It's kind of goofy to point out petty details, especially when you're wrong yourself.
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post #47 of 76
6/23/09 at 2:44am
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

I really don't know what Apple is thinking with the tasteless purple smear desktop and that hideously tacky Quicktime X icon....

I think Apple wants to relate the new QuickTime icon to the "core-" features. Core Image, Video, Audio and Animation. They kind of share the same design language.
I've pointed out before that Apple's app icons in the recent years have been too similar. Most of them are pale blue and when using the app switcher it's important that the icons have a clear identity both in color and design in order to know where to go without thinking. So in that aspect I think it's a step forward. But in terms of design... I think it's really tacky.
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post #48 of 76
6/23/09 at 3:18am
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Hey dude
Virgil is a cool guy so lay off. Its an open forum and someone can say what they will free of not nice replies.

Well put, as always.
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post #49 of 76
6/23/09 at 4:25am
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Originally Posted by internetworld7 View Post

LOL. Is that all you got out of the video? It is Quick Time 10 and not Quick Time X, so the X is the Roman Numeral 10. Also Quick Time is TWO separate words and not one as you have it spelled... See what I mean? It's kind of goofy to point out petty details, especially when you're wrong yourself.

Well if you are going to be THAT picky about it, QuickTime is one word with the Q and T capitalized... \

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Apple is going back to the original plan of using "QuickTime" as the core technology it truly is.. (it's not just a video player)

Also, if you've noticed.. the new "marble" look that Apple is progressing towards is simply the NeXTStep UI modernized.

I guess things always come full circle..

NeXTStep Marble
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post #50 of 76
6/23/09 at 4:52am
did you guys notice the idisk icon in the finder sidebar is now blue instead of pink???


also, the HD icons seem to be laptop icons, do you think that guy moded them?
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post #51 of 76
6/23/09 at 4:53am
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Well if you are going to be THAT picky about it, QuickTime is one word with the Q and T capitalized... \

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Apple is going back to the original plan of using "QuickTime" as the core technology it truly is.. (it's not just a video player)

Also, if you've noticed.. the new "marble" look that Apple is progressing towards is simply the NeXTStep UI modernized.

I guess things always come full circle..

NeXTStep Marble

what are you talking about?? i see nothing remotely similar in those two pics
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post #52 of 76
6/23/09 at 5:15am
i can't believe it, this is soooo boring to see! a boring slider to change the size of the icons! i remember that once there even was a slider in the options to change the size, but well, it was removed and set to two different sizes, simply because apple wanted to do this.

i fall asleep when i see these videos. it's the same boring interface, the same color, the same everything. why should one even install it? well, at least it's a new quicktime icon, which unfortunately now looks like a star trek "space cadettes" jewlery. and I also think that i have seen this desktopbackground somewhere...
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post #53 of 76
6/23/09 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Technically, yes, but X is the Roman numeral for ten so its only incorrect to those pedant about the vocalization.

Come on, no one says

Rocky i i (eye eye)
Rocky i i i (eye eye eye)
Rocky iv (eye vee)
Rocky v (vee)

lol
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post #54 of 76
6/23/09 at 7:14am
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i can't believe it, this is soooo boring to see! a boring slider to change the size of the icons! i remember that once there even was a slider in the options to change the size, but well, it was removed and set to two different sizes, simply because apple wanted to do this.

i fall asleep when i see these videos. it's the same boring interface, the same color, the same everything. why should one even install it? well, at least it's a new quicktime icon, which unfortunately now looks like a star trek "space cadettes" jewlery. and I also think that i have seen this desktopbackground somewhere...

How do you think the UI should be updated?

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post #55 of 76
6/23/09 at 7:15am
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Come on, no one says

Rocky i i (eye eye)
Rocky i i i (eye eye eye)
Rocky iv (eye vee)
Rocky v (vee)

lol

Good point.

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post #56 of 76
6/23/09 at 7:20am
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How do you think the UI should be updated?

Just copy Windows 7 and Apple will take over the world.
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post #57 of 76
6/23/09 at 7:39am
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and I can only play video in the preview window of column view [aka the best view]

Quoted for truth


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Come on, no one says

Rocky i i (eye eye)
Rocky i i i (eye eye eye)
Rocky iv (eye vee)
Rocky v (vee)

lol

While the first 3 are correct, unfortunately I have heard people say Rock Vee. I think it just happens with 5 and 10?
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post #58 of 76
6/23/09 at 7:53am
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LOL. Is that all you got out of the video? It is Quick Time 10 and not Quick Time X, so the X is the Roman Numeral 10. Also Quick Time is TWO separate words and not one as you have it spelled...

Funny, because Apple spells QuickTime as one word, with a capital "Q" and a capital "T".


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See what I mean? It's kind of goofy to point out petty details, especially when you're wrong yourself.

Yeah, it's kinda schmuckish to rail on any old Joe Blow because they didn't know whether to call it Oh Ess Ten (vs. Oh Ess Ex). But its another thing to hold yourself out as some kind of Mac authority like this guy did, and then get something so fundamentally wrong. Makes it hard to take the guy seriously.

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post #59 of 76
6/23/09 at 8:18am
Move along.
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post #60 of 76
6/23/09 at 9:15am
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Come on, no one says

Rocky i i (eye eye)
Rocky i i i (eye eye eye)
Rocky iv (eye vee)
Rocky v (vee)

lol

Most of those are true, but language doesnt have to be linear in usage. I cant imaging people saying Mac OS XI (Ex,Eye). I cant even imagine Apple spelling it that way. Mac OS 11 seems more reasonable. Same goes for the next version of QuickTime, though Id guess that it wont come until Mac OS X gets the numerical bump.
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post #61 of 76
6/23/09 at 9:17am
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Well, whenever I hear "artists" moaning about what other people should think is or isn't "attractive".... I ignore them and their egos.

I consider myself an artist, but you won't hear me inflating my ego by saying something so pretentious and annoying. Just change the background and be done with it. It is that hard to do?
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post #62 of 76
6/23/09 at 9:20am
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Move along.

Your first post on this forum is to inform us that the article, and by extension the thread, are not worth bothering with? Do you not see the irony in that?

Welcome to the forum.
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post #63 of 76
6/23/09 at 9:22am
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Move along.

Wow!! You're first post and it couldn't sound any more trollish. If you are not interested in the article, why post?
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post #64 of 76
6/23/09 at 11:09am
I think the point to "Move along" is that some of you people are simply jibber-jabbering. Does it really matter how QT is spelled and/or pronounced? I think we all get the point. The guy isn't from Minnesota. So what! He did a poor job with audio levels. I don't know how to make a video and post it to the web, but I do know how to work with sound. I did notice an error with regard to System Preferences, Universal Access, and VoiceOver. What he showed is nothing new. As far as I can tell, SL is for sure worth 29 bucks, but then I would need to add more RAM to my iMac. I still don't see the need. Leopard does everything I want. All I would benefit from is some cute little tricks. I agree that it is a better Leopard ... nothing more.
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post #65 of 76
6/23/09 at 11:27am
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Most of those are true, but language doesnt have to be linear in usage. I cant imaging people saying Mac OS XI (Ex,Eye). I cant even imagine Apple spelling it that way. Mac OS 11 seems more reasonable. Same goes for the next version of QuickTime, though Id guess that it wont come until Mac OS X gets the numerical bump.

I remember reading several years ago that "Mac OS X" was taken on as the brand (rather than significant updates to the OS taking on higher number designations to signify advancements/refinements as the Classic OS did) partly because the name "OS 11" was already registered by a different company. Presumably, the legal battle to wrestle the name from the other company was deemed not worth the effort. Apple was, in effect, forced to stick with the name "Mac OS X" until the next generation OS came along or they adopted a new naming convention. Don't hold me to that too strictly. It's only a vague recollection and I can't remember where I read it exactly (though I'm pretty sure it was on an Apple/Mac rumor board).

In any event, Roman numerals are pronounced as the numbers they represent, not the letters they appear as. People, I imagine for thousands of years, have chosen to ignore, and continue to ignore, that for myriad reasons. I dunno. Whatever.

But whenever Apple does decide to rebrand its OS, dropping the Roman numeral would probably remove the confusion/contention about what to call it. The Code Names (e.g., Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard, etc.) are easy enough (for those who care at all). And people seem to understand version numbers readily enough. Why can't Apple simply go by the OS code names as the major OS brand names?

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post #66 of 76
6/23/09 at 12:11pm
<petpeeve>you emptied the trash right after putting that screen shot in it. dude, that's not how to use the trash. that would be like after using a tissue or when done with your piece of gum, walking outside to a dumpster (or.. driving to the landfill!). emptying trash is a disk reclaiming operation, and as long as you only do it infrequently, you gain an effective undelete feature. grr!</petpeeve> thx for the videos, maannn

my real point: the finder obvious squirrels away new metadata about the original location of trashed items, does it also have new metadata describing *when* an item was trashed. i often want to sort my trash can by date trashed, eg. with the things i threw out most recently at the top of the list. can anyone tell me if there's evidence that the finder adds this metadata too?

(also, speaking to my pet-peeve a little, specifically the effectiveness of the trash as an undelete tool, it would also make it possible to implement partial trash emptying, either by the finder itself or a simple 3rd party app. eg. a slider for choosing to empty all vs. all but the most recent X days or weeks, or vs. empty the X oldest gigabytes)
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post #67 of 76
6/23/09 at 1:46pm
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I just checked my finder in Leopard, and I can only play video in the preview window of column view [aka the best view] and in cover flow. In the icon and list view I cannot.

Looks like the new feature then is being able to play videos in icon view, which makes sense seeing as you can now enlarge the icons to 512×512 as opposed to the current 128×128.

Aha! Thanks for clarifying that. Although it leaves me to wonder why Apple would enable icon preview in column view and not icon view, in Leopard.

Possibly it has something to do with getting the icons to scale smoothly?
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6/23/09 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post

I really don't know what Apple is thinking with the tasteless purple smear desktop and that hideously tacky Quicktime X icon. The conventional wisdom among pretty much *all* my artist friends (and me included), that one would have to be blind or stoned to think they are attractive in any way.

When Leopard came out the first question I was asked by almost every person I installed it for was "how do I get rid of that desktop picture for good?"

The Snow Leopard Server default desktop photo looks better.

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6/23/09 at 4:44pm
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I remember reading several years ago that "Mac OS X" was taken on as the brand (rather than significant updates to the OS taking on higher number designations to signify advancements/refinements as the Classic OS did) partly because the name "OS 11" was already registered by a different company. Presumably, the legal battle to wrestle the name from the other company was deemed not worth the effort. Apple was, in effect, forced to stick with the name "Mac OS X" until the next generation OS came along or they adopted a new naming convention. Don't hold me to that too strictly. It's only a vague recollection and I can't remember where I read it exactly (though I'm pretty sure it was on an Apple/Mac rumor board).

In any event, Roman numerals are pronounced as the numbers they represent, not the letters they appear as. People, I imagine for thousands of years, have chosen to ignore, and continue to ignore, that for myriad reasons. I dunno. Whatever.

But whenever Apple does decide to rebrand its OS, dropping the Roman numeral would probably remove the confusion/contention about what to call it. The Code Names (e.g., Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard, etc.) are easy enough (for those who care at all). And people seem to understand version numbers readily enough. Why can't Apple simply go by the OS code names as the major OS brand names?

The other difficulty with Mac OS 11 is that it could be read as Mac OS II, now we have the Roman numeral habit, i.e., Mac OS 2 in Arabic numerals.

If you are into royalty the correct pronunciation is Mac OS the tenth.

This numbering scheme is a bit bogus anyway because Mac OS X (10.0) was a completely new OS if cobbled together out of parts of existing systems (NeXTstep, bits of various free UNIX clones, Mac OS 9). So maybe it would not be that crazy to call the next really different version 2.0.

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post #70 of 76
6/23/09 at 5:36pm
Well, the YouTube videos have been removed (copyright issues with Apple.)
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post #71 of 76
6/24/09 at 3:39am
nice. but uninspiring \
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post #72 of 76
6/24/09 at 4:09am
As opposed to Steve, who tells us what he thinks we like...and gets away with it!

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Because we don't like Phil, he tells us what we think we like and he thinks he gets away with it.
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post #73 of 76
6/24/09 at 8:14am
Where did the guy get the new purple QuickTime X icon from? I thought this build (10A380) still shows the old blue icon for QuickTime X.
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post #74 of 76
6/24/09 at 8:41am
We shouldn't forget that from the beginning Apple said this wasn't going to be a feature-heavy release. It's hard to show people through video the internal workings that are making SL a lot better (Grand Central, OpenCL, etc.).
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post #75 of 76
6/24/09 at 2:24pm
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How do you think the UI should be updated?

I think a lot of people were hoping that they would see the rumored marble interface in Snow Leopard, I was hoping to see it as well.

Some people were hoping that there would be some new feature's (including myself), not just some newer icon's or an improved expose.

One idea that I came up with has to do with the folder's, as it is now, there's no way to see what's in the folder's without opening it. navigating a larger folder library is tedious because you don't know what's in it.

My idea has to do with quick look. when you hit the quick look button on a folder, the folder enlarges but what's the point of seeing a larger folder?

it would be awesome if when you hit the quick look button on a folder you can see the contents of that folder.

it would then be cool if you could browse and select that file right from quicklook without ever opening that folder. similar to the way the new stack's work

Quicktime 10s new interface looks nice but preview needs a UI update badly. The unattractive large grey bar at the top needs to be replaced with a thinner, black glossy see-through interface. Apple Mail need's an interface change as well.

Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the release of Snow Leopard. I'll be upgrading my computer as soon as it's released. I'm basically stating what would improve an already great OS.
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post #76 of 76
6/28/09 at 10:33pm
That Apple's developer releases didn't have the Hard Drives mounted on the desktop by default. This doesn't meant that the final version won't have it enabled by default. In some ways.. it's kind of confusing/redundant, but it's still convenient for spring loaded folders etc.. Currently if I want to drag a file from the desktop, I have to press the space bar when i hover over the finder Icon. I hope Apple fixes this with Snow Leopard.
When Apple released leopard for the first time, all of their demos showed the desktop with No hard Drive icons so It does make you wander if they are headed that route potentially with all mountable media. Again.. the final release will determine what they are really trying to do. in some ways it makes sense.. "If you want to find something on your computer.. go to 'finder'".
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