Why do Americans refer to Toronto as Toronto, Canada and not Toronto Ontario, or Toronto Ontario Canada. Its just helps feed their belief Canada is just a chunk of land and everyone knows Joe from Canada
Well, I?m an American, and I?ve always referred to Canadian cities as [city, province]. It just seems more ?right.? (Of course, I also refer to foreign countries by their proper names, as opposed to the ?Anglicized? versions.)
Why do Americans refer to Toronto as Toronto, Canada and not Toronto Ontario, or Toronto Ontario Canada. Its just helps feed their belief Canada is just a chunk of land and everyone knows Joe from Canada
FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE YANKEES!! </strong><hr></blockquote>
Perhaps it is because people from Toronto often seem to have the attitude that Canada begins and ends in Toronto.
Why do Americans refer to Toronto as Toronto, Canada and not Toronto Ontario, or Toronto Ontario Canada.</strong><hr></blockquote>
For me, it's Tornonta Canada the way it's London, England or Dublin, Ireland. The "default" for an American is to assume that a city is in the USA unless the country is specified, and in the name of expediency we leave the province out. No offence intended.
[quote]<strong> Its just helps feed their belief Canada is just a chunk of land and everyone knows Joe from Canada </strong><hr></blockquote>
Wait a minute, hold the phone!
I thought Canada was just a chunk of ice.
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Well, I thought about T.O., Ontario, Canada, but I figured it was just too much typing. hehe. Actually, since the user group here and elsewhere is fairly international I thought the convention was city-country, and city-region-country was only used to distinguish a city for a closer national audience/group, or if the geography played an important role. We must be 50% Canadians in here so far if this actually matters.
And do we really need the whole Toronto thinks it is Canada rhetoric from the west (& east) Peanut Galleries??? Particularly the CCRAP cronies out west. Why? Cause we got a little oil money directed our way? News Flash. Economically at least, Toronto (and Ontario) is Canada. More money flows from Ontario taxpayers into other provinces than flows in Ontario from outside. Now, due to the population and resource distribution, all of Canada would suffer if any part were to be separated, but lets not forget where most of the money comes from, or where most of the people live. Ontario doesn't dominate elections, in fact as a person living in Ontario (especially on in Toronto) my vote counts for proportionally less than in any other part of the country. (here we have ridings of up to 100 000 voters) Elswhere in Canada there are ridings of as few as 2000-3000.
Ontario ought to have more influence over politics, not less. Ditto, Toronto.
In any event, what would the proceedure be for verifying if this dorsal is the dorsal who so accurately described the quicksliver powermacs???
<strong>And do we really need the whole Toronto thinks it is Canada rhetoric from the west (& east) Peanut Galleries??? Particularly the CCRAP cronies out west. Why? Cause we got a little oil money directed our way? News Flash. Economically at least, Toronto (and Ontario) is Canada. More money flows from Ontario taxpayers into other provinces than flows in Ontario from outside. Now, due to the population and resource distribution, all of Canada would suffer if any part were to be separated, but lets not forget where most of the money comes from, or where most of the people live. Ontario doesn't dominate elections, in fact as a person living in Ontario (especially on in Toronto) my vote counts for proportionally less than in any other part of the country. (here we have ridings of up to 100 000 voters) Elswhere in Canada there are ridings of as few as 2000-3000.
Ontario ought to have more influence over politics, not less. Ditto, Toronto.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I hardly expected such a ringing endorsement of my point... :eek:
Jeez, if somebody from a foreign country wanted to say "Sizzle Chest is from Portland, USA" instead of "Portland, Oregon" or "Portland, Oregon, USA," I don't think I'd get too worried about it.
That's not Dorsal. A select few here know my own relationship with Dorsal and know his writing style. Mods can compare IP's of the old Dorsal and this one and see if they're the same because I know for a fact his IP hasn't changed since last he spoke.
<strong>That's not Dorsal. A select few here know my own relationship with Dorsal and know his writing style. Mods can compare IP's of the old Dorsal and this one and see if they're the same because I know for a fact his IP hasn't changed since last he spoke.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, Outsider. If you know Dorsal's IP, you presumably know how to get in touch with him as well. How about sending him an invitation. I am certain that the mods/admins will gladly reassign the Dorsal name to the real Dorsal. Right, Jonathan?
Well, Outsider, I think that you may be jumping the gun. After all, you only have a couple of sentences by which to guess whether this D is the real D. You truly must be a great stylistic analyst.
I for one will extend dorsal the benefit of the doubt, and listen to what he has to say. Wow. One post and 20 non-replies. AI is truly back.
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Why do Americans refer to Toronto as Toronto, Canada and not Toronto Ontario, or Toronto Ontario Canada. Its just helps feed their belief Canada is just a chunk of land and everyone knows Joe from Canada
FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE YANKEES!!
<strong>I've always wondered something.
Why do Americans refer to Toronto as Toronto, Canada and not Toronto Ontario, or Toronto Ontario Canada. Its just helps feed their belief Canada is just a chunk of land and everyone knows Joe from Canada
FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE YANKEES!!
Perhaps it is because people from Toronto often seem to have the attitude that Canada begins and ends in Toronto.
<strong>I've always wondered something.
Why do Americans refer to Toronto as Toronto, Canada and not Toronto Ontario, or Toronto Ontario Canada.</strong><hr></blockquote>
For me, it's Tornonta Canada the way it's London, England or Dublin, Ireland. The "default" for an American is to assume that a city is in the USA unless the country is specified, and in the name of expediency we leave the province out. No offence intended.
[quote]<strong> Its just helps feed their belief Canada is just a chunk of land and everyone knows Joe from Canada
Wait a minute, hold the phone!
I thought Canada was just a chunk of ice.
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Nice to be back here
nice to see Dorsal back also
<strong>We've been going through some exciting times here lately. Lots to tell you. Nice to have AI back. More later.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, we look forward to your reports. If there really were several hundred 1.6Ghz G5 protos out there, I'm sure you'd have one in your testing lab.
Escher
Strider
And do we really need the whole Toronto thinks it is Canada rhetoric from the west (& east) Peanut Galleries??? Particularly the CCRAP cronies out west. Why? Cause we got a little oil money directed our way? News Flash. Economically at least, Toronto (and Ontario) is Canada. More money flows from Ontario taxpayers into other provinces than flows in Ontario from outside. Now, due to the population and resource distribution, all of Canada would suffer if any part were to be separated, but lets not forget where most of the money comes from, or where most of the people live. Ontario doesn't dominate elections, in fact as a person living in Ontario (especially on in Toronto) my vote counts for proportionally less than in any other part of the country. (here we have ridings of up to 100 000 voters) Elswhere in Canada there are ridings of as few as 2000-3000.
Ontario ought to have more influence over politics, not less. Ditto, Toronto.
In any event, what would the proceedure be for verifying if this dorsal is the dorsal who so accurately described the quicksliver powermacs???
<strong>And do we really need the whole Toronto thinks it is Canada rhetoric from the west (& east) Peanut Galleries??? Particularly the CCRAP cronies out west. Why? Cause we got a little oil money directed our way? News Flash. Economically at least, Toronto (and Ontario) is Canada. More money flows from Ontario taxpayers into other provinces than flows in Ontario from outside. Now, due to the population and resource distribution, all of Canada would suffer if any part were to be separated, but lets not forget where most of the money comes from, or where most of the people live. Ontario doesn't dominate elections, in fact as a person living in Ontario (especially on in Toronto) my vote counts for proportionally less than in any other part of the country. (here we have ridings of up to 100 000 voters) Elswhere in Canada there are ridings of as few as 2000-3000.
Ontario ought to have more influence over politics, not less. Ditto, Toronto.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I hardly expected such a ringing endorsement of my point... :eek:
Unless you have intelligence hinting that Apple is set to acquire Canada, it is not future hardware.
Thanks.
<strong>*ahem*</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apologies
...moving back on topic... Dorsal, glad to see you're back/your back
Any sign of further digital hub devices? or do you really only see higher end hardware?
<strong>That's not Dorsal. A select few here know my own relationship with Dorsal and know his writing style. Mods can compare IP's of the old Dorsal and this one and see if they're the same because I know for a fact his IP hasn't changed since last he spoke.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, Outsider. If you know Dorsal's IP, you presumably know how to get in touch with him as well. How about sending him an invitation. I am certain that the mods/admins will gladly reassign the Dorsal name to the real Dorsal. Right, Jonathan?
Escher
I for one will extend dorsal the benefit of the doubt, and listen to what he has to say. Wow. One post and 20 non-replies. AI is truly back.
Keep your mind (and eyes) open...
I for one, say go ahead, Dorsal. Let's hear it.
Mandricard
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