U.S.A.: We dropped a bomb on ourselves. Oops.

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Does anybody find this to be EXTREMELY disturbing?



Here's the U.S.A., considered by many to be the most powerful country in the world, and someone SCREWED UP so badly as to drop a bomb on our own soliders!



3 dead and 19 injured because of a mistake made by the most intelligent and militarily strong nation on this planet.



That's totally unacceptable.



[ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: CosmoNut ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 38
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Happens in every conflict we get into.



    Our Apaches launched hellfires and other nasty weapons at our tanks in Desert Storm, for example.
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  • Reply 2 of 38
    You don't want to know the type of reputation that the US military has over here in the UK. In Desert Storm we lost more men to US fire than we did to Iraq's.
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  • Reply 3 of 38
    The US only send ground troops in if there are street lamps and a Burger King!



    The US marines have a 12 weeks basic training.



    Royal Marines have a 36 weeks basic training.



    enough said....



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  • Reply 4 of 38
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    [quote]Originally posted by bizza2:

    <strong>The US only send ground troops in if there are street lamps and a Burger King!



    The US marines have a 12 weeks basic training.



    Royal Marines have a 36 weeks basic training.



    enough said....



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Perhaps someone has to have things told to them three times before they get it



    I heard a good one yesterday in a daily serious and analytical radio news program on one of our our national radio station: The basic equipment for an american soldier is sunblock and a Visa card. Perhaps now a big signs aying "Don´t bomb. I am an american" should be added.
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  • Reply 5 of 38
    sinewavesinewave Posts: 1,074member
    And I bet not one of you has every joined the services :roll: No one is perfect. Not even the British (snicker) army.
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  • Reply 6 of 38
    [quote]Originally posted by To Ti or Not to Ti, that is the Q.:

    <strong>You don't want to know the type of reputation that the US military has over here in the UK. In Desert Storm we lost more men to US fire than we did to Iraq's.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    You forgot to mention that those brits wandered in the the "kill zone". (or at least some of them did) You may want to look into buying some GPS devices.



    [ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: Scott H. ]</p>
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  • Reply 7 of 38
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    Loss of life due to frindly fire is unnacceptable no matter who it happens to. But to say that the US military is poorly trained is a false assumption. I think our track record in wars backs us here. However, what confuses me is that the bomb that was dropped was a JDAM right? Laser guided... So who "painted" our guys? Or was it a mechanical defect in the bomb itself? That is the question that I have.
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  • Reply 8 of 38
    [quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:

    <strong>Loss of life due to frindly fire is unnacceptable no matter who it happens to.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    Of course it is. If it weren't we'd never go to war. That's one of the risk when you go to war and friendly fire is an acceptable risk.





    Remind our troops not to run with scissors too.
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  • Reply 9 of 38
    [quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:

    <strong>Loss of life due to frindly fire is unnacceptable no matter who it happens to. But to say that the US military is poorly trained is a false assumption. I think our track record in wars backs us here. However, what confuses me is that the bomb that was dropped was a JDAM right? Laser guided... So who "painted" our guys? Or was it a mechanical defect in the bomb itself? That is the question that I have.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    It was a new type of bomb that is guided by a gps system. The crew that launches it enters the coordinates and then the bomb uses gps to destroy those coordinates. Currently, it is believed the gps system failed for some unknown reason or the bomb crew put in the wrong coordinates. Accidents do happen. No one is perfect. That is why we call them 'accidents'.
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  • Reply 10 of 38
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>





    Of course it is. If it weren't we'd never go to war. That's one of the risk when you go to war and friendly fire is an acceptable risk.





    Remind our troops not to run with scissors too.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hmmm, No thoughts on the rest of my post. Just read the first sentance and forget the rest?



    Oh, and you should never run with scissors.
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  • Reply 11 of 38
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by MasterZeus:

    <strong>





    It was a new type of bomb that is guided by a gps system. The crew that launches it enters the coordinates and then the bomb uses gps to destroy those coordinates. Currently, it is believed the gps system failed for some unknown reason or the bomb crew put in the wrong coordinates. Accidents do happen. No one is perfect. That is why we call them 'accidents'.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Thank you, that was helpful. And as far as it being an accident, that is what I figured, unless the bomb was laser guided the opposing side somehow had the ability to "paint" the wrong area. But since it was GPS guided...
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  • Reply 11 of 38
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    Remind me how ANY fire in war is friendly? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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  • Reply 13 of 38
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Friendly Fire is an unescapable byproduct of War. You can only minimize it but you will never prevent it. Each Soldier knows that they must be alert for attacks from the Enemy as well as from our own fellow Soldiers. Communication is the key.
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  • Reply 14 of 38
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by CosmoNut:

    <strong>Remind me how ANY fire in war is friendly? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Ummm, ok. If your fire at your "friends" then that is called "friendly fire". Not a very friendly thing to do but that is what it is.
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  • Reply 15 of 38
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by CosmoNut:

    <strong>Does anybody find this to be EXTREMELY disturbing?



    Here's the U.S.A., considered by many to be the most powerful country in the world, and someone SCREWED UP so badly as to drop a bomb on our own soliders!



    3 dead and 19 injured because of a mistake made by the most intelligent and militarily strong nation on this planet.



    That's totally unacceptable.



    [ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: CosmoNut ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    it's a ****ing war with thousands of missiles in a ****ing desert. shit happens.



    it's amazing. 4 americans die in combat over 2 months in 2001. yet thousands could die every week in past wars.. put things in perspective here. 4 americans dead is amazing. this kind of unfortunate mishaps happens all the time.
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  • Reply 16 of 38
    g4dudeg4dude Posts: 1,016member
    What I don't understand is us Americans have become so whimpy. Thousands of people used to die in wars. Now if one person dies we stop and think about if the risks are just too high, it's stupid. Of course death is a tragedy but this is WAR and death happens. We are the most powerful country in the world, I mean only we are capeable of killing us. Our army kicks ass.
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  • Reply 17 of 38
    "The enemy is anybody who is going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on."



    Joseph Heller, Catch 22.
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  • Reply 18 of 38
    [quote]Originally posted by Samantha Joanne Ollendale:

    <strong>"The enemy is anybody who is going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on."



    Joseph Heller, Catch 22.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Of course the guys there now are not looking for a way out.
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  • Reply 19 of 38
    Reminds me of those cruise missiles which can hit a dime, however one flies off and hits a Chinese embassy...



    Ever seen that Doonsberry? The missile flies towars the powerplant, in the door, through the coffe lounge and then you have the general saying "Shortly after that it flew out a window and blew up a parking lot, but its impressive none the less".
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  • Reply 20 of 38
    Of course what people Gary Trudeau don't see is that the US spent billions on "smart bomb" technology to save inocent lives. We could have "carpet bombed" Afghanistan and killed 10,000s but instead we spent hard earned tax payer money on developing "smart bombs" so we wouldn't have too.
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