History Repeats Itself

sameoldsht

Go back 2 years.



iBook

Announced in July 1999 at Macworld New York



PowerMac G4 (pci graphics)

Announced in September 1999





When the ibooks were introduced for the first time at MWNY 99, the show focused completely on consumer products. 2 months later? Brand spanken new PowerMac's including the pentium-toasting G4 (catchy).



Back up to the present, 2002. MWSF 02 focuses completely on consumer products with the bump up in ibook models and the brand new iMac.

The G4 has had a long happy life in the PowerMacs and now steps into iMac to begin its new life in a consumer product. The most simple time frame for the new powermac is most logically the correct one. Am i alone in assuming that looking at this disturbingly similar situation 2 years ago as a sign for what we can see in the next month or 2?

Time will tell.

sc_markt

[quote]Originally posted by SameOldSht:

<strong>Go back 2 years.



iBook

Announced in July 1999 at Macworld New York



PowerMac G4 (pci graphics)

Announced in September 1999





When the ibooks were introduced for the first time at MWNY 99, the show focused completely on consumer products. 2 months later? Brand spanken new PowerMac's including the pentium-toasting G4 (catchy).



Back up to the present, 2002. MWSF 02 focuses completely on consumer products with the bump up in ibook models and the brand new iMac.

The G4 has had a long happy life in the PowerMacs and now steps into iMac to begin its new life in a consumer product. The most simple time frame for the new powermac is most logically the correct one. Am i alone in assuming that looking at this disturbingly similar situation 2 years ago as a sign for what we can see in the next month or 2?

Time will tell.</strong><hr></blockquote>



This article at the link below is kind of along the same line of thought.



<a href="http://www.spymac.com/html/sage.php"; target="_blank">http://www.spymac.com/html/sage.php</a>;



- Mark

gustav

Would this be the same spymac that showed us the iWalk, claiming it was coming two weeks ago?

eman

Definately could be. Good thinking.

buonrotto

SameOldSht is true to his name.

sameoldsht

[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:

<strong>SameOldSht is true to his name. </strong><hr></blockquote>



[edit: lets all be friends and cuddle]



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macgregor

Sounds like a good timeframe to me. Good ol' Sameol'!

buonrotto

Love and understanding (and a bettter joke next time)



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bill m

Good thinking there SOS... perhaps an Apple event right after Jan 31 - when the Crystal Clear promotion ends - will bring some new life to the PowerMac line.

majuki

Heh...the Spymac sage is nothing more than a cryptic recycling of well-known rumors. The thing is trying to be a Nostradamus of the Apple community, so, no matter what happens, Spymac can say their sage predicted it.

nostradamus

[quote]Originally posted by Majuki:

<strong>The thing is trying to be a Nostradamus of the Apple community, so, no matter what happens, Spymac can say their sage predicted it. </strong><hr></blockquote>



Hey! Spymac and I do not belong in the same sentence!



<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Nostradamus ]</p>

paul

[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:

<strong>Love and understanding (and a bettter joke next time)



[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: BuonRotto ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



I thought it was funny...

ppc8500

you know... i actually remember arguing with someone in 1999 about this very topic. I was proven wrong. I said time and again that if Apple had the G4 ready they would have had it go along with the ibook release at MWSF.

I guess we have to learn to comprehend that apple likes to have the spot light on certain products at certain times. Now its 2002 and we are in the same situation.



Clever, SOS.

sameoldsht

[quote]Originally posted by PPC8500:

<strong>you know... i actually remember arguing with someone in 1999 about this very topic. I was proven wrong. I said time and again that if Apple had the G4 ready they would have had it go along with the ibook release at MWSF.

I guess we have to learn to comprehend that apple likes to have the spot light on certain products at certain times. Now its 2002 and we are in the same situation.



Clever, SOS.</strong><hr></blockquote>



why thank you . I figured tuesday would come and go with no new Powermacs. Im guessing seybold with G5's or REALLY fast G4's. Guess sacrificing some powermac sales was worth having the iMac comparible in speeds to the Powermacs at the time of intro help the impact of the product . Now that Apple has a huge number of preorders of people thinking they're getting top of the line speed (which they ALMOST are (L3 cache,133 bus, GF3, expandability blah blah) ) and now at seybold they can roll in the new heavy artillery. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

mac_os_x_addict

I think that is could be very possible. History does repeat itself and Apple may be in the process of doing this. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

ppc8500

[quote]Originally posted by SameOldSht:

<strong>



why thank you . I figured tuesday would come and go with no new Powermacs. Im guessing seybold with G5's or REALLY fast G4's. Guess sacrificing some powermac sales was worth having the iMac comparible in speeds to the Powermacs at the time of intro help the impact of the product . Now that Apple has a huge number of preorders of people thinking they're getting top of the line speed (which they ALMOST are (L3 cache,133 bus, GF3, expandability blah blah) ) and now at seybold they can roll in the new heavy artillery. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



ah the voice of reason. One reason i think the new powermacs will remain the same type of G4 (no Apollo, no G5) is the type of G4 that went into the new iMac. No L3 cache, isn't this the same type of processor that was used in the slightly older G4's (7400 or 7410) and not the 7450 that currently resides in the Powermacs or is it just a 7450 stripped of the L3 cache like the 733mhz Powermac. This being a brand new machine and knowing your going to bump the highend to a better-grade processor, wouldnt you put in the G4 thats in the powermacs now so when you put in the apollo G4, its only 1 step up instead of 2?? I cant say either way because im not quite sure what kind of G4 is in the iMac. Can anyone clarify this? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

marcuk

The G4 in the new iMac would have to be a 7450/7440 because of the speed its running.



I was wondering if Apple have delayed the Powermacs because a)Catching up on iMac deliveries b)Maybe their expecting demand to be HUGE! and so are premanufacturing as many as possible to avoid another iMac shipping fiasco, it would look really bad to have few shipping products for 2-3 months?