Here in Australia we only have GSM networks with Telstra requiring North American models (850MHz NextG) a different situation than the US with their legacy CDMA networks.
So why doesn't Telstra have the Blackberry Storm?
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Originally Posted by -AG-
The fact of the matter is there is a simple solution to all these arguments.
Have your government/a court come in and remove exclusivity rights to companies for things like phones etc. Or at least limit it to say 3 months like how they do it here is Australia.
There's more whining from NYC about iPhone's, than comes from JFK.
So it's looking like AT&T pulled a fast one to get Apple to handle the NY/NJ holiday iPhone traffic, and/or Apple wanted more traffic to their stores to increase sales.
I don't buy the cutting off sales of one device to a particular region over a fraud one bit.
If there is fraud, you make corrective steps, not simply deny everyone as a solution.
OK, fair enough, but is NYC really a hotbed for that in ways and degrees that doesn't happen in other major cities?
yes
years ago before cell phones you would have people watch you as you made a calling card call at the port authority bus terminal and then sell your number to someone so they could call pakistan or some other such place for free and the phone company would eat the cost of the call
Oops!. I guess all the conspiracy theorists have to wipe that egg off their faces now. iPhones are once again available online in NYC. And, of course, they never stopped being available in the stores. Why can't you just accept the obvious. It was a screw up. You all claim that at&t screws up all the time so why not this time too? But no, it has to be some evil plot, some sinister move, some planned action that warrants a look by the SEC, the FBI, the FTC, and one of Obama's czars or czarinas. OMFG the paranoia that permeates this place is scary.
I agree.... Wah Wah..... There is not one Apple Store within 5 hours of driving for me and NYC'ers whine about this one.... Give me a HUGE break!
Clearly you are not a New Yorker. We DO NOT have cars. They are for the suckers who drive in from New Jersey and Long Island and clog up our streets.
Being this is my first posting, I suppose I should contribute something meaningful. My wife and I are chewing at the bit to get iPhones. We are Verizon users. If the iPhone came to Verizon we would buy it in a snap. As great as the phone is, I think most wireless users are committed to their service. There are fees to cancel a service and really, it is just a headache to switch. I know we are not alone in this. Apple would make a killing with the iPhone on Verizon.
Considering how exploitive they have been with ATT I bet Verizon is approaching with both eyes open and hefty requests. These are two real big companies who want a big piece of the pie.
I don't understand why you would have to point this out, it doesn't look like the person you replied to has anything to do with NYC, and did not say anything at all that would suggest otherwise.
Nice troll but you forgot one thing. You can still get an iPhone in NYC from an at&t or Apple store. This is about online sales only. So how does that fit in with your theory about at&t's network not being able to "handle" the iPhone? Oh, and first tier service reps rarely, if ever, get any official word about what's going on anyway. So maybe this Daphne pulled this statement out of her ass? I realize that at&t hatred is an all consuming hobby right now with trolls but you really need to think things out before posting. It gives the art of trolling a bad name.
ummm you don't know what 'troll' means. But congrats because now YOU are the troll and a loser [because you have been banned by AT&T].
Do you think apple would like to rethink their choice of carrier? AT&T has got to be the worst. So apple what do you do for a network for the tablet? AT&T. You have got to be kidding me !!!!
you can't make this shit up
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Originally Posted by siriusvector
So when is the next Verizon ad??
good one
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Originally Posted by Dorotea
Unbelievable.
bingo
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Originally Posted by pslice
I agree.... Wah Wah..... There is not one Apple Store within 5 hours of driving for me and NYC'ers whine about this one.... Give me a HUGE break!
i have 14 stores within 5 hrs drives
ATT has cut off NYC and surrounding area's from buying the number one device ever made>> online sales .
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Originally Posted by zenwaves
Big deal.
it is...
ATT just threw in the towel
ATT is Small cell carrier in NYC compared to verizon
I'm sure it's not that hard for Manhattanites to visit one of the FOUR Apple stores on the island!
we visit all of the stores like a rock concert tour and don't forget 6 stores in nyc and 7 stores in NJ
3 stores in the DC AREA
and best buy will due when we need a quick fix
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Originally Posted by mickeymantle
a device for the Verizon network? I can't believe they would give it to ATT.
apple regrets ATT
verizon will outsell ATT
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
I bet Daphne is popular in the AT & T canteen today! LOL
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
Maybe the iSlate, when unable to use Wi-Fi, tethers to an iPhone for 3G ... ??? just a wild off the wall comment with no basis whatsoever to be taken seriously
hey the islate is much cooler topic anyway
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Originally Posted by thompr
No network was prepared for the iPhone data tsunami. None. Verizon may have handled the load a bit better (perhaps) but they would have buckled too.
Thompson
NO WAY JOSE
Verizon has build towers and re-peaters all over manhattan for 30 yrs
verizon cell calls have 15 or 20 small dead zones city wide but super strong all over thew rest of NYC even on the one uptown subway train i get calls .
ATT has no dead zones at all .but they have huge low service low connection area's all over the 5 counties and NJ and Westchester
go to VEGAS on a shuttle bus to the convention hall and ATT drops all the calls over and over
verizon clients just talk away wondering what the hub buib is .
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Originally Posted by solipsism
Verizon may have even had more troubles than AT&T in some areas since a CDMA towers are more spread out than AT&T towers thus more iPhones per tower may have caused even more problems making the big city issues with AT&T occur over larger areas and faster.
no way jose
verizon has yrs to watch ATT screw up and learn from them
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Originally Posted by lkrupp
Nice troll but you forgot one thing. You can still get an iPhone in NYC from an at&t or Apple store. This is about online sales only. So how does that fit in with your theory about at&t's network not being able to "handle" the iPhone? Oh, and first tier service reps rarely, if ever, get any official word about what's going on anyway. So maybe this Daphne pulled this statement out of her ass? I realize that at&t hatred is an all consuming hobby right now with trolls but you really need to think things out before posting. It gives the art of trolling a bad name.
ATT JUST DID THE LOWEST THING EVER
THEY MADE ALL THOSE VERIZON ADS TRUE
ATT JUST BOWED DOWN ON ONE KNEE AND PLEADS FOR HELP
THE DATA FLOOD HAS SWAMPED ATT TO0 THE POINT THEY REfUSE SALES
THE FCC WILL FINE ATT BIG TIME
AND APPLE IS NOW FORCED TO OPEN UP TO ALL THE IPHONE
re THE COORS BEER LAWSUIT
i am floored by this att see;s a worse situation by having more sales
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Americans take everything way too seriously.
BTW the actual tag line was taken from a press release from here in Aus a few years ago.
But original post edited to remove link.
Blah blah blah xenophobia blah blah blah.
Americans take everything way too seriously.
BTW the actual tag line was taken from a press release from here in Aus a few years ago.
But original post edited to remove link.
Thank you -AG-, you got a good heart.
So why doesn't Telstra have the Blackberry Storm?
The fact of the matter is there is a simple solution to all these arguments.
Have your government/a court come in and remove exclusivity rights to companies for things like phones etc. Or at least limit it to say 3 months like how they do it here is Australia.
There's more whining from NYC about iPhone's, than comes from JFK.
"No iPhone for you!"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/34611009
So it's looking like AT&T pulled a fast one to get Apple to handle the NY/NJ holiday iPhone traffic, and/or Apple wanted more traffic to their stores to increase sales.
I don't buy the cutting off sales of one device to a particular region over a fraud one bit.
If there is fraud, you make corrective steps, not simply deny everyone as a solution.
OK, fair enough, but is NYC really a hotbed for that in ways and degrees that doesn't happen in other major cities?
yes
years ago before cell phones you would have people watch you as you made a calling card call at the port authority bus terminal and then sell your number to someone so they could call pakistan or some other such place for free and the phone company would eat the cost of the call
http://www.macworld.com/article/1453..._sale_nyc.html
I agree.... Wah Wah..... There is not one Apple Store within 5 hours of driving for me and NYC'ers whine about this one.... Give me a HUGE break!
Clearly you are not a New Yorker. We DO NOT have cars. They are for the suckers who drive in from New Jersey and Long Island and clog up our streets.
Being this is my first posting, I suppose I should contribute something meaningful. My wife and I are chewing at the bit to get iPhones. We are Verizon users. If the iPhone came to Verizon we would buy it in a snap. As great as the phone is, I think most wireless users are committed to their service. There are fees to cancel a service and really, it is just a headache to switch. I know we are not alone in this. Apple would make a killing with the iPhone on Verizon.
Considering how exploitive they have been with ATT I bet Verizon is approaching with both eyes open and hefty requests. These are two real big companies who want a big piece of the pie.
1) Do the Droid and Droid Eris have their Wi-Fi locked down?
2) Do the Droid and Droid Eris require a fee to access the Google App Store?
Thank the iPhone and kiss AT&T's feet for that. The OP's opinion is probably why Verizon turned it down, and Apple went to AT&T.
They should spend less time damage controlling and more time improving the user experience.
Clearly you are not a New Yorker.
I don't understand why you would have to point this out, it doesn't look like the person you replied to has anything to do with NYC, and did not say anything at all that would suggest otherwise.
Wrong!!! I read another article this morning where an ATT spokesman said there were "not enough towers".
Could you reference the second article please?
Nice troll but you forgot one thing. You can still get an iPhone in NYC from an at&t or Apple store. This is about online sales only. So how does that fit in with your theory about at&t's network not being able to "handle" the iPhone? Oh, and first tier service reps rarely, if ever, get any official word about what's going on anyway. So maybe this Daphne pulled this statement out of her ass? I realize that at&t hatred is an all consuming hobby right now with trolls but you really need to think things out before posting. It gives the art of trolling a bad name.
ummm you don't know what 'troll' means. But congrats because now YOU are the troll and a loser [because you have been banned by AT&T].
Do you think apple would like to rethink their choice of carrier? AT&T has got to be the worst. So apple what do you do for a network for the tablet? AT&T. You have got to be kidding me !!!!
you can't make this shit up
So when is the next Verizon ad??
good one
Unbelievable.
bingo
I agree.... Wah Wah..... There is not one Apple Store within 5 hours of driving for me and NYC'ers whine about this one.... Give me a HUGE break!
i have 14 stores within 5 hrs drives
ATT has cut off NYC and surrounding area's from buying the number one device ever made>> online sales .
Big deal.
it is...
ATT just threw in the towel
ATT is Small cell carrier in NYC compared to verizon
I'm sure it's not that hard for Manhattanites to visit one of the FOUR Apple stores on the island!
we visit all of the stores like a rock concert tour and don't forget 6 stores in nyc and 7 stores in NJ
3 stores in the DC AREA
and best buy will due when we need a quick fix
a device for the Verizon network? I can't believe they would give it to ATT.
apple regrets ATT
verizon will outsell ATT
I bet Daphne is popular in the AT & T canteen today! LOL
Maybe the iSlate, when unable to use Wi-Fi, tethers to an iPhone for 3G ... ??? just a wild off the wall comment with no basis whatsoever to be taken seriously
hey the islate is much cooler topic anyway
No network was prepared for the iPhone data tsunami. None. Verizon may have handled the load a bit better (perhaps) but they would have buckled too.
Thompson
NO WAY JOSE
Verizon has build towers and re-peaters all over manhattan for 30 yrs
verizon cell calls have 15 or 20 small dead zones city wide but super strong all over thew rest of NYC even on the one uptown subway train i get calls .
ATT has no dead zones at all .but they have huge low service low connection area's all over the 5 counties and NJ and Westchester
go to VEGAS on a shuttle bus to the convention hall and ATT drops all the calls over and over
verizon clients just talk away wondering what the hub buib is .
Verizon may have even had more troubles than AT&T in some areas since a CDMA towers are more spread out than AT&T towers thus more iPhones per tower may have caused even more problems making the big city issues with AT&T occur over larger areas and faster.
no way jose
verizon has yrs to watch ATT screw up and learn from them
Nice troll but you forgot one thing. You can still get an iPhone in NYC from an at&t or Apple store. This is about online sales only. So how does that fit in with your theory about at&t's network not being able to "handle" the iPhone? Oh, and first tier service reps rarely, if ever, get any official word about what's going on anyway. So maybe this Daphne pulled this statement out of her ass? I realize that at&t hatred is an all consuming hobby right now with trolls but you really need to think things out before posting. It gives the art of trolling a bad name.
ATT JUST DID THE LOWEST THING EVER
THEY MADE ALL THOSE VERIZON ADS TRUE
ATT JUST BOWED DOWN ON ONE KNEE AND PLEADS FOR HELP
THE DATA FLOOD HAS SWAMPED ATT TO0 THE POINT THEY REfUSE SALES
THE FCC WILL FINE ATT BIG TIME
AND APPLE IS NOW FORCED TO OPEN UP TO ALL THE IPHONE
re THE COORS BEER LAWSUIT
i am floored by this att see;s a worse situation by having more sales
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