* An open letter to members of these boards: please read.

Posted:
in General Discussion edited January 2014
Over the last few weeks, I've witnessed a great deal of...angst from some of our members to others. These conflicts have come over dislike for a particular member, debate over religious topics, and discussion of ages of members on these boards.



Many would like to discount all this conflict by saying, "oh, these are just boards about Macs. It's no big deal."



Let me remind you though that behind every username on these forums is a person, who has feelings just like you. What you write may seem harmless because this environment is just electrons on a server somewhere, but what you write may be harmful to someone else.



Be aware of the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Treat each other with respect, while at the same time understanding the differences in culture, age, education, and backgrounds that we all bring to our opinions on these boards.



There may be disagreements between users, but don't let the disagreements become unproductive and immature. It does nothing for the other users here, and certainly doesn't make you look any better in the process. Respect others' opinions, and don't rush to bash someone because they dissent from what you believe.



Keep these boards fun and interesting, and long live the Mac!
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  • Reply 1 of 42
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    man, you're so wrong. why don't you piss off!!!!



    i can't stand you!!!!





  • Reply 2 of 42
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    Good post!

    I agree totaly. In some ways I feel the boards have been very "alive" lately. I come to know many of the members better than I'd ever imagine I would, (and learned a few things 'bout mormons as well ).

    But some of the threads have gone way too far.

    As Peacekeeper says "behind every username on these forums is a person". Let's remeber that. If we can just keep a decent level of respect for each others in here, then I think the "non-mac" topics are good for us all.



    peace!



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  • Reply 3 of 42
    I guess anytime I ask someone to back up what they post and then insist they do it later on ... that's considered an "attack" on them.
  • Reply 4 of 42
    good post... you ****ing son of a ****..... ***hole! You filty communist nazi scumbag terrorist!
  • Reply 5 of 42
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,273member
    You know...that's what I LIKE about AppleOutsider. I mean we all love the Mac but have wildy varying opinions on different topics. I personally have not one beef against any member of AI and I wouldn't hestitate to buy a Cold One for anyone on these boards. I've argued with Steve666 and Scott.H like everyone but I still believe they're good people. I grew up in a family that did nothing but but debate and argue(with love) on the holidays so I'm used to someone denouncing my opinion without feeling personally slighted. Alas I have grown up and have seen plenty of people who felt mortally wounded if someone trashed their opinion...that's sad. Trust me...we all would have fun in person and while we'd still argue...who doesn't??
  • Reply 6 of 42
    I tend to keep my arguements (few and far between) local to a single post. If I rant against someone in one thread, I still give them a clean slate in another. Anyone else practice this policy?
  • Reply 7 of 42
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    thank-you hmurchison.



    If you can stand he heat, try a new genital ointment.
  • Reply 8 of 42
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    what the hell are you a priest?
  • Reply 9 of 42
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    I've had plenty of arguments with folks here. I may think some of their views are warped and I find it hard to fathom their views but i like a good argument. I don't hold grudges....................
  • Reply 10 of 42
    crusadercrusader Posts: 1,129member
    The GOP bashers started it!

    They hurt my feelings, wahhhh! I want my mommy!



  • Reply 11 of 42
    christ, let me get a tissue. I think I might shed a tear. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
  • Reply 12 of 42
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>I guess anytime I ask someone to back up what they post and then insist they do it later on ... that's considered an "attack" on them.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I understand your indignation, but this is NOT a very productive thing to say when it comes to conflict resolution. Now you are just putting yourself somewhere else, feeling wronged for past actions, or feeling false despair, or something that I kind quite find the word for. peacekeeper is right, we are all people, we all have feelings, we all need to be more careful with our words and what we say, and we also all need to respect eachother(and long live the mac!)

    I see where you are coming from Scott, but In saying that Chances are your not going to _solve_ anything, only get facetious remarks and conflict(unless the persons your indirectly refering to show earnest apologies)

    I love seeing conflicts solved, and I feel that the only way to do it(or rather the most productive way) is to lay things out on the table in an un-biased manner, observe the situation from all sides, analze it and then send it back to the people involved, and hope that they can come up with a better way of operating for the future. Of course there are other ways to go about doing this, and what I just said is an abridged version, merely stating basic principles and the likes.



    well, I hope that we all remember that its always more productive(in the long run) to be understanding and helpful. as opposed to facetious(dare I say sarcastic) and hindering.
  • Reply 13 of 42
    [quote]Originally posted by Arakageeta:

    <strong>I tend to keep my arguements (few and far between) local to a single post. If I rant against someone in one thread, I still give them a clean slate in another. Anyone else practice this policy?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I tend NOT to get into arguments in any given thread. In my experience no one on the internet(very few people) actually are willing to change their views on anything, this creates an atmosphere of whoever is the rudest, 'wittiest', and 'coolest' becomes this sort of....guy...that just takes even the best arguments AGAINST one of his views, and either doesn't even listen and makes a weak retort. OR points out a trivial grammatical error or something to make the person that opposes them seem invalid or useless("what you can't even spell________ !?! why should I take anything you say seriously then")



    but if I did get into arguments(without trying to solve the conflict) I would definatly not hold a grudge...I would give the person in question a clean slate next time round, and I wouldn't think twice about it.
  • Reply 14 of 42
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>what the hell are you a priest?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    ....Cause if you are...I'm going to POUND YOU!...no one tells me I'm wrong! ROAR!!!!!



    <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
  • Reply 15 of 42
    I just wonder if there's some lingering misplaced anger over the big macworld let down. Man did they hype that bastard!



    I agree on the beer thing. I once saw someone post an invitation to meet up at the mall of America for some big event at the Apple store. When the day comes when Apple releases my dream computer I plan on making the pilgrimage to the mall and inviting anyone to meet up with me there for a cold one (after making it clear that my house will be guarded by blood thirsty dobermans in my absence in case some thin-skinned members get any ideas)
  • Reply 16 of 42
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    [quote]Originally posted by Arakageeta:

    <strong>I tend to keep my arguements (few and far between) local to a single post. If I rant against someone in one thread, I still give them a clean slate in another. Anyone else practice this policy?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    deffinetly.
  • Reply 17 of 42
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>what the hell are you a priest?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    applenut you're so cool.
  • Reply 18 of 42
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    I totally agree with Peacekeeper.



    I'm just glad I got out of the "Mormons" thread before the sharks REALLY started to bite. And now it's locked.



    Maybe more people need to read and heed Peacekeeper's post.



    p.s. &lt;sarcasm&gt;Oh, yeah. Applenut is very cool.&lt;/sarcasm&gt; <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> Though, given applenut's track record, I'm not surprised he said that.
  • Reply 19 of 42
    peace is way overrated. look what it did to the states recently. since we havent been involved in a major war in a long time, our priorities are all fuc*ed up. all we care about is ourselves and how much money we make and what kinda car we drive. we have become more materialistic and greedy than ever before. w/ the 9-11 attacks some of us woke up and started actually realizing how shallow we've become. but now that the present threat is almost forgotten by many, we're going back to our selfish and egocentric ways. w/ a war, i guarantee we'd care about something other than ourselves (and the present "war" does NOT count). as of right now, peace is keeping us prosperous and healthy, but it is killing the quality of life in terms of true happiness. noone cares about what really matters anymore. good ol capitalism...where the priorities are always obvious...



    anyway...back to the topic. peace is boring. controversy brings lively topics. if u cant handle it, then leave.
  • Reply 20 of 42
    jrcjrc Posts: 805member
    [quote]Originally posted by Peacekeeper:

    <strong>Over the last few weeks, I've witnessed a great deal of...angst from some of our members to others. These conflicts have come over dislike for a particular member, debate over religious topics, and discussion of ages of members on these boards.



    Many would like to discount all this conflict by saying, "oh, these are just boards about Macs. It's no big deal."



    Let me remind you though that behind every username on these forums is a person, who has feelings just like you. What you write may seem harmless because this environment is just electrons on a server somewhere, but what you write may be harmful to someone else.



    Be aware of the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Treat each other with respect, while at the same time understanding the differences in culture, age, education, and backgrounds that we all bring to our opinions on these boards.



    There may be disagreements between users, but don't let the disagreements become unproductive and immature. It does nothing for the other users here, and certainly doesn't make you look any better in the process. Respect others' opinions, and don't rush to bash someone because they dissent from what you believe.



    Keep these boards fun and interesting, and long live the Mac! </strong><hr></blockquote>



    If the idiots would quit posting idiotic posts, the sane would quit having to rebut.
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