And, if they are, either you are happy or not. Are you?
He fails to see how it can be both. The store I was at was out of every capacity but 16GB, I know of at least one store without any supply left and I'm sure some still have all three models in stock.
It's more rigid because of the taper, that's true. In the review of either Gizmodo or Engadget, the rigidity was mentioned, as well as the fact that the aluminum shell seems to be machined like the MacBook cases.
It's more rigid because of the taper, that's true. In the review of either Gizmodo or Engadget, the rigidity was mentioned, as well as the fact that the aluminum shell seems to be machined like the MacBook cases.
I was trying to discern that earlier on iFixit and I haven't read any review that mentions it. The stepping makes me think it can't be any pressing technique I'm aware of and it clearly looks machined. Which is pretty awesome for this type of device.
I assume that this yields three strengthening results over pressing: allows for stress points to be thicker, tighter specs for more accurate sizing, and no weakening of material from pressing process. That is just my speculation, from what you've stated on here over the years you are considerably more familiar with aluminium.
This also implies that Apple has got their machined systems down pat which means we aren't likely to deviate away from them in future Mac notebooks.
Apparently, you can't even lay it flat on a table and type because of its rounded back? What's with that? Seems like cross legged or with a case stand is the only way to type on the iPad?
Does anyone think Apple will release sales numbers for the iPad? Seems like they're always kinda secretive, or combine total sales of several products in their reports.
I watched a couple different people type with the thing laying flat on the table, and they seemed to have no problem at all. (haven't tried myself)
I'd just spend too much time, well, all my time, diddling around on it, not doing what I should be doing. I'd sit with it and when I finish doing one thing I didn't need to be doing I'd start doing another. And after that I'd check to see if any new apps showed up since I last checked ten minutes ago.
I neglected to quote their posts, but Ireland and Melgross have it exactly right. Why can't everyone understand that?
I've got apps on my iPhone I've never used because of the small screen. And we have three Macs in the house, including a loaded-for-bear tower. Sometimes I just want to surf the web from a coffee table. Or get to IMDB.COM when I'm watching TV in bed.
After using my iPad for eight hours, it's everything I wanted, plus.
I watched a couple different people type with the thing laying flat on the table, and they seemed to have no problem at all. (haven't tried myself)
I saw a video of a little kid trying to use one while it was on a table and his dad had to hold it so it wouldn't move around. That's all I'm going by. Haven't seen one in person. Maybe it was the swiping motion that was the problem and typing would be ok.
Or it could be that there's really not a compelling reason to buy it at this point.
Yes. And it's a new sort of product, so who 'knows' if they need one? The iPhone was a different animal - everyone already KNOWS they want/need a phone. And the iPod was enough like popular portable music players that had gone before (the Walkman), that people grasped the concept pretty readily.
It's completely up to the early adopters now: If they love the thing, word will spread and others will follow. If not, Apple has just produced Newton II.
Yes. And it's a new sort of product, so who 'knows' if they need one? <snip>
It's completely up to the early adopters now: If they love the thing, word will spread and others will follow. If not, Apple has just produced Newton II.
I don't think there's much doubt iPad will be a success. Like you say though, it's up to each individual to decide if they want/need/will use one. I have no idea myself.
I saw a video of a little kid trying to use one while it was on a table and his dad had to hold it so it wouldn't move around. That's all I'm going by. Haven't seen one in person.
Well, now I'm convinced. I had no problems, but dang, I must have been a fool to think I could stand up to such evidence.
I had one reserved at an Apple store but heard about Best Buy having so I went there instead because it was closer to me and picked up a 16gb model. No lines but man does Best Buy try everything to convince you to by their service protection plan. I overheard one employee say you should get the service plan because with something this delicate you are just about guaranteed you will drop it. I mean he pushed hard. I had this girl that did the same with me but kept saying no. I hate Best Buy otherwise, but was glad I could get my iPad today.
The iPad experience is amazing when you use it in your hands rather than reading blogs about it. Use it and you too will see what makes it amazing.
I don't care what anyone says or what any blog post says about the iPad, I'm very happy with it.
I was trying to discern that earlier on iFixit and I haven't read any review that mentions it. The stepping makes me think it can't be any pressing technique I'm aware of and it clearly looks machined. Which is pretty awesome for this type of device.
I assume that this yields three strengthening results over pressing: allows for stress points to be thicker, tighter specs for more accurate sizing, and no weakening of material from pressing process. That is just my speculation, from what you've stated on here over the years you are considerably more familiar with aluminium.
This also implies that Apple has got their machined systems down pat which means we aren't likely to deviate away from them in future Mac notebooks.
What I've also noticed both from the description of how the antenna sits within a machined well under the Apple logo, and the shape of the circuit boards, which also look to fit the machined curves, the unit doesn't need fasteners for some of the assemblies, only what looks to be a rubber based adhesive, which makes it more resistant to shock.
The descriptions of it being extremely rigid, unusual for such a thin device (Remember the Titanium Powerbook?), points to a machined shell. As it's been described as thicker than usually what's seen, that clinches it for me.
Getting that for an inexpensive device (yes, $499 is inexpensive, look at some of the pricing from other manufacturers) bodes well for Apple being able to get the process down in price as Jobs said they would.
...man does Best Buy try everything to convince you to by their service protection plan. I overheard one employee say you should get the service plan because with something this delicate you are just about guaranteed you will drop it. I mean he pushed hard. I had this girl that did the same with me but kept saying no.
I think those employees are threatened with death if they don't push a service plan, both in sales and at check-out.
I posted this somewhere else but I think it got lost on one of the sub-sub-forums (really, following all the iPad posts is pointlessly random, don't we think?), but today over in Emeryville in the Bay Area there was a line at 3pm. Well, two lines actually, one for the people actually buying iPads and one just to get into the store.
They were explaining to everyone that they weren't actually open for normal business-- all you could do was purchase an iPad or be escorted to a table to look at an iPad, under the watchful eye of an employee. Employee kinda wanted to give me a "demo", but I demurred. I want to go back when I can just play around with the thing and not have someone breathing down my neck.
At any rate, out here anyway, iPad fever seems to be in full swing.
I had an idea right after Jobs announced this. For those with a fetish for hardware keyboards, you should know that there is an easy way to do this. If I were interested in starting another company, I would already be producing one.
It's really easy. Make a rigid sleeve for the iPad to slide into securely. then put a hinge on the long edge. On the other side of the hinge, build in a thin bluetooth keyboard the length of the iPad, which is a fair amount longer than the screen.
Give it a magnetic latch to hold it when closed, and Bingo! One iPhone OS notebook!
The iPad experience is amazing when you use it in your hands rather than reading blogs about it. Use it and you too will see what makes it amazing.
I don't care what anyone says or what any blog post says about the iPad, I'm very happy with it.
.....typed on while using my new iPad
Bingo.
I love reading posts by people with doomsday negatives about any product they only know about from third hand accounts of videos of children who can't properly use a toothbrush much less a computer, because I know I can just skip the whole post, it's meaningless.
The only way we'll know if the iPad is a disappointment is if the people who bought them end up thinking so. We'll never find out from anyone else. Can't type without sliding? Too glaring to read? Too anything, not enough of something else? If you didn't buy one, or at least use one for a week, I won't read your foolishness.
I love reading posts by people with doomsday negatives about any product they only know about from third hand accounts of videos of children who can't properly use a toothbrush much less a computer, because I know I can just skip the whole post, it's meaningless.
The only way we'll know if the iPad is a disappointment is if the people who bought them end up thinking so. We'll never find out from anyone else. Can't type without sliding? Too glaring to read? Too anything, not enough of something else? If you didn't buy one, or at least use one for a week, I won't read your foolishness.
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And, if they are, either you are happy or not. Are you?
He fails to see how it can be both. The store I was at was out of every capacity but 16GB, I know of at least one store without any supply left and I'm sure some still have all three models in stock.
As well as increased rigidity.
It's more rigid because of the taper, that's true. In the review of either Gizmodo or Engadget, the rigidity was mentioned, as well as the fact that the aluminum shell seems to be machined like the MacBook cases.
It's more rigid because of the taper, that's true. In the review of either Gizmodo or Engadget, the rigidity was mentioned, as well as the fact that the aluminum shell seems to be machined like the MacBook cases.
I was trying to discern that earlier on iFixit and I haven't read any review that mentions it. The stepping makes me think it can't be any pressing technique I'm aware of and it clearly looks machined. Which is pretty awesome for this type of device.
I assume that this yields three strengthening results over pressing: allows for stress points to be thicker, tighter specs for more accurate sizing, and no weakening of material from pressing process. That is just my speculation, from what you've stated on here over the years you are considerably more familiar with aluminium.
This also implies that Apple has got their machined systems down pat which means we aren't likely to deviate away from them in future Mac notebooks.
new estimates are 700,000 for Saturday. Badass, if true.
source?
Apparently, you can't even lay it flat on a table and type because of its rounded back? What's with that? Seems like cross legged or with a case stand is the only way to type on the iPad?
Does anyone think Apple will release sales numbers for the iPad? Seems like they're always kinda secretive, or combine total sales of several products in their reports.
I watched a couple different people type with the thing laying flat on the table, and they seemed to have no problem at all. (haven't tried myself)
Score one more for Apple, but I stayed away.
Maybe tomorrow.
I've got apps on my iPhone I've never used because of the small screen. And we have three Macs in the house, including a loaded-for-bear tower. Sometimes I just want to surf the web from a coffee table. Or get to IMDB.COM when I'm watching TV in bed.
After using my iPad for eight hours, it's everything I wanted, plus.
I watched a couple different people type with the thing laying flat on the table, and they seemed to have no problem at all. (haven't tried myself)
I saw a video of a little kid trying to use one while it was on a table and his dad had to hold it so it wouldn't move around. That's all I'm going by. Haven't seen one in person. Maybe it was the swiping motion that was the problem and typing would be ok.
source?
? http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/04/0...the-first-day/
Or it could be that there's really not a compelling reason to buy it at this point.
Yes. And it's a new sort of product, so who 'knows' if they need one? The iPhone was a different animal - everyone already KNOWS they want/need a phone. And the iPod was enough like popular portable music players that had gone before (the Walkman), that people grasped the concept pretty readily.
It's completely up to the early adopters now: If they love the thing, word will spread and others will follow. If not, Apple has just produced Newton II.
Yes. And it's a new sort of product, so who 'knows' if they need one? <snip>
It's completely up to the early adopters now: If they love the thing, word will spread and others will follow. If not, Apple has just produced Newton II.
I don't think there's much doubt iPad will be a success. Like you say though, it's up to each individual to decide if they want/need/will use one. I have no idea myself.
I saw a video of a little kid trying to use one while it was on a table and his dad had to hold it so it wouldn't move around. That's all I'm going by. Haven't seen one in person.
Well, now I'm convinced. I had no problems, but dang, I must have been a fool to think I could stand up to such evidence.
Now I'm DEFINITELY not getting it until Tuesday.
The iPad experience is amazing when you use it in your hands rather than reading blogs about it. Use it and you too will see what makes it amazing.
I don't care what anyone says or what any blog post says about the iPad, I'm very happy with it.
.....typed on while using my new iPad
I was trying to discern that earlier on iFixit and I haven't read any review that mentions it. The stepping makes me think it can't be any pressing technique I'm aware of and it clearly looks machined. Which is pretty awesome for this type of device.
I assume that this yields three strengthening results over pressing: allows for stress points to be thicker, tighter specs for more accurate sizing, and no weakening of material from pressing process. That is just my speculation, from what you've stated on here over the years you are considerably more familiar with aluminium.
This also implies that Apple has got their machined systems down pat which means we aren't likely to deviate away from them in future Mac notebooks.
What I've also noticed both from the description of how the antenna sits within a machined well under the Apple logo, and the shape of the circuit boards, which also look to fit the machined curves, the unit doesn't need fasteners for some of the assemblies, only what looks to be a rubber based adhesive, which makes it more resistant to shock.
The descriptions of it being extremely rigid, unusual for such a thin device (Remember the Titanium Powerbook?), points to a machined shell. As it's been described as thicker than usually what's seen, that clinches it for me.
Getting that for an inexpensive device (yes, $499 is inexpensive, look at some of the pricing from other manufacturers) bodes well for Apple being able to get the process down in price as Jobs said they would.
Some of the apps and hardware for this are great.
Man, I just can't wait to get mine!
...man does Best Buy try everything to convince you to by their service protection plan. I overheard one employee say you should get the service plan because with something this delicate you are just about guaranteed you will drop it. I mean he pushed hard. I had this girl that did the same with me but kept saying no.
I think those employees are threatened with death if they don't push a service plan, both in sales and at check-out.
They were explaining to everyone that they weren't actually open for normal business-- all you could do was purchase an iPad or be escorted to a table to look at an iPad, under the watchful eye of an employee. Employee kinda wanted to give me a "demo", but I demurred. I want to go back when I can just play around with the thing and not have someone breathing down my neck.
At any rate, out here anyway, iPad fever seems to be in full swing.
It's really easy. Make a rigid sleeve for the iPad to slide into securely. then put a hinge on the long edge. On the other side of the hinge, build in a thin bluetooth keyboard the length of the iPad, which is a fair amount longer than the screen.
Give it a magnetic latch to hold it when closed, and Bingo! One iPhone OS notebook!
This could be done for $75.
I wonder if someone is working on this.
I've got some other ideas as well.
Now I'm DEFINITELY not getting it until Tuesday.
The iPad experience is amazing when you use it in your hands rather than reading blogs about it. Use it and you too will see what makes it amazing.
I don't care what anyone says or what any blog post says about the iPad, I'm very happy with it.
.....typed on while using my new iPad
Bingo.
I love reading posts by people with doomsday negatives about any product they only know about from third hand accounts of videos of children who can't properly use a toothbrush much less a computer, because I know I can just skip the whole post, it's meaningless.
The only way we'll know if the iPad is a disappointment is if the people who bought them end up thinking so. We'll never find out from anyone else. Can't type without sliding? Too glaring to read? Too anything, not enough of something else? If you didn't buy one, or at least use one for a week, I won't read your foolishness.
Bingo.
I love reading posts by people with doomsday negatives about any product they only know about from third hand accounts of videos of children who can't properly use a toothbrush much less a computer, because I know I can just skip the whole post, it's meaningless.
The only way we'll know if the iPad is a disappointment is if the people who bought them end up thinking so. We'll never find out from anyone else. Can't type without sliding? Too glaring to read? Too anything, not enough of something else? If you didn't buy one, or at least use one for a week, I won't read your foolishness.
Ok, I'm going to bed then.