The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
But this is not true. Try any speed test and notice how the data download speeds are significantly affected by a normal left-handed grip. Notice the numerous users who've reported dropped calls. I've actually tested call quality by calling my landline's voice mail. When the phone is lying flat on a table, call quality is great. As soon as I pick it up, call quality degrades where I can only make out about one in four words...When I set the phone back on the table it also takes a long time for the call quality to recover...
The solution seems to be the "bumper" which Apple should make available for free in lieu of a production recall...
The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
The author didn't merely suggest it's cosmetic, but that still doesn't make it a software issue.
On my Yahoo News page, I see stories from AP, Reuters, CNBC, LA Times. I see one story under Technology News about the reception problems. It's not "all over".
Having been trained as a journalist, I don't like broad generalizations like "all over". The story is being reported but it's not front page news. Even the "hometown" newspaper in San Jose, the story doesn't make the "top of the fold."
I upgraded my old 3G to iOS4 on the day it was released. Boy, am I sorry. Steve wasn't kidding when he said the processor wasn't even strong enough to run the wallpaper feature. Truth be told, it isn't strong enough to run any of it. I am going to restore the old OS as soon as I can. Every process on the phone has slowed down--it's now a slug. My advice to all, unless you have a 3G(s), don't upgrade.
I had a 3G I upgraded and it was hopelessly slow to do most functions. Probably most annoying was the camera and moving icons because of folders. It wasn't what you'd expect from Apple. It put me off thinking the iOS had much excitement left in it. That all changed with iPhone 4 running it. It really feels different, animations, folders, camera all feel amazingly good. The screen brings it all together and iOS seems like it's future is brighter than ever.
I've got the reception issue, I'm actually getting used to holding the phone differently when I need. It's actually starting to feel natural to hold it differently. It's still unacceptable though and I will get a case. I can't say I'm hopefull that the update will work. Level 2 technicians are calling Mon,Tues so I'll see what they say.
I think Apple and pro-Apple bloggers (like Daniel) can learn a lesson from this.
If you spend many months hyping up a product as revolutionary and as the pinnacle of mankind don't be surprised if there's a massive overreaction to the smallest of problems with your product.
People who queue overnight are going expect the product to be perfect. They will complain very loudly if it isn't.
The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
But this is not true. Try any speed test and notice how the data download speeds are significantly affected by a normal left-handed grip. Notice the numerous users who've reported dropped calls. I've actually tested call quality by calling my landline's voice mail. When the phone is lying flat on a table, call quality is great. As soon as I pick it up, call quality degrades where I can only make out about one in four words...When I set the phone back on the table it also takes a long time for the call quality to recover...
The solution seems to be the "bumper" which Apple should make available for free in lieu of a production recall...
I can confirm this with my iPhone 4. I turned off Wi-FI and used SpeedTest. Here are my results:
I upgraded my old 3G to iOS4 on the day it was released. Boy, am I sorry. Steve wasn't kidding when he said the processor wasn't even strong enough to run the wallpaper feature. Truth be told, it isn't strong enough to run any of it. I am going to restore the old OS as soon as I can. Every process on the phone has slowed down--it's now a slug. My advice to all, unless you have a 3G(s), don't upgrade.
But how are you going to use the gyroscope feature or noise cancellation technology of iOS 4.0 if you downgrade??
I can confirm this with my iPhone 4. I turned off Wi-FI and used SpeedTest. Here are my results:
Holding the phone with an open palm:
Using the "Death Grip":
"Don't be a crybaby, you're just holding the phone wrong. Buy a $29.99 rubber bumper if you are still incompetent enough to hold a phone properly." -Steve Jobs
The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
But this is not true. Try any speed test and notice how the data download speeds are significantly affected by a normal left-handed grip. Notice the numerous users who've reported dropped calls. I've actually tested call quality by calling my landline's voice mail. When the phone is lying flat on a table, call quality is great. As soon as I pick it up, call quality degrades where I can only make out about one in four words...When I set the phone back on the table it also takes a long time for the call quality to recover...
That doesn't mean it is not a software issue. All cell phones experience this due to the placement of the antennas at the bottom of the handset. FCC requires that they be placed as far as possible from the head. The issue is also experienced on a 3GS that has been upgraded to iOS4.
It has to do with the way the signal degradation/strenth is handled by the software. The same way your transmitter/receiver power is cranked up when you have poor cell reception. This is all handled in software, not hardware.
if you are an early adopter, give this thing some time in the wild, and also think about how many people do NOT have problems. As long as that's the vast majority - there is no real problem.
It's much more fun to whine that the over-percieved problem is the end of the world!
Yeah, flawless. I dont sit here and bitch about little "issues" which are really non-issues. Mine has worked well beyond my expectations.
Agreed, I have no issues with mine, I can replicate the no bars syndrome but even when it is showing no bars i can still make and receive calls no problem, so let's see what Apple come up with for a fix before we write off the new gorgeous flawless iPhone4
What kind of an argument is that? Yeah, no one is forcing me to buy a phone that I wanted but doesn't work as advertised because when you hold it in your left hand it slows data speeds and drops calls. Present a decent argument, otherwise quit talking out your ass.
Excessive moisture increases conduction between the two antennas.
So why do you have sweaty palms? The only way I could replicate the behavior was by licking my palm (It's kind of childish but this is...)
And even in displaying No Service, amazingly the phone still made and connected to a call that sounded fine. Is that a decent enough argument that it's predominantly a software issue, or is the iPhone 4 fatally flawed and we shouldn't bother trying to confuse you with facts?
To determine whether this is just a problem with the software measurement of the signal strength, I tested the actual data throughput speed in both unheld and held states. The impact of holding the iPhone in your hand is SEVERE, cutting up/down speeds to a fraction of their unheld potential. Here are the results.
You will get the same thing with the 3GS - or any other smart phone.
Body mass (salt water specifically) absorbs and thus reduces radio frequency radiation.
Period.
"You canna change the laws of physics"
You might want to really read the article that was linked to in the orignal story:
Particularly the last line. Maybe twice, just to ensure you read what the author really wrote and not what you expect him to write (unlike some other posters in this thread).
More than a problem with the iPhone, this is an example of totally unrealistic expectations by people who really do think this crap works by magic And blaming that on Steve or Apple overhyping and over-marketing is just intellectual laziness. Every company talks up their good points and de-emphasises their weak points. As a consumer, it's your job to weed out the relevant from the irrelevant. Same for blog postings on the Internet - sheesh. I'm not sure as a race we are mature enough for the instant communication we get through the Internet.
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But this is not true. Try any speed test and notice how the data download speeds are significantly affected by a normal left-handed grip. Notice the numerous users who've reported dropped calls. I've actually tested call quality by calling my landline's voice mail. When the phone is lying flat on a table, call quality is great. As soon as I pick it up, call quality degrades where I can only make out about one in four words...When I set the phone back on the table it also takes a long time for the call quality to recover...
The solution seems to be the "bumper" which Apple should make available for free in lieu of a production recall...
on the other hand ireland seemed cool for yrs now
and his first 10x posts made sence
yet he over blown cryBABY diatribes WHILE NOT EVEN OWNING A IPHONE 4
MACTIPPER STLYE TROLLING
You're a troll.
The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
The author didn't merely suggest it's cosmetic, but that still doesn't make it a software issue.
On my Yahoo News page, I see stories from AP, Reuters, CNBC, LA Times. I see one story under Technology News about the reception problems. It's not "all over".
Actually it is, I've seen it on the BBC news.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/tech-157...video=20533464
Resting your keyboard would be more beneficial.
Now that's some funny sheaat.
Actually it is, I've seen it on the BBC news.
Having been trained as a journalist, I don't like broad generalizations like "all over". The story is being reported but it's not front page news. Even the "hometown" newspaper in San Jose, the story doesn't make the "top of the fold."
Watching with interest for the Monday update.
I upgraded my old 3G to iOS4 on the day it was released. Boy, am I sorry. Steve wasn't kidding when he said the processor wasn't even strong enough to run the wallpaper feature. Truth be told, it isn't strong enough to run any of it. I am going to restore the old OS as soon as I can. Every process on the phone has slowed down--it's now a slug. My advice to all, unless you have a 3G(s), don't upgrade.
I had a 3G I upgraded and it was hopelessly slow to do most functions. Probably most annoying was the camera and moving icons because of folders. It wasn't what you'd expect from Apple. It put me off thinking the iOS had much excitement left in it. That all changed with iPhone 4 running it. It really feels different, animations, folders, camera all feel amazingly good. The screen brings it all together and iOS seems like it's future is brighter than ever.
I've got the reception issue, I'm actually getting used to holding the phone differently when I need. It's actually starting to feel natural to hold it differently. It's still unacceptable though and I will get a case. I can't say I'm hopefull that the update will work. Level 2 technicians are calling Mon,Tues so I'll see what they say.
If you spend many months hyping up a product as revolutionary and as the pinnacle of mankind don't be surprised if there's a massive overreaction to the smallest of problems with your product.
People who queue overnight are going expect the product to be perfect. They will complain very loudly if it isn't.
The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
But this is not true. Try any speed test and notice how the data download speeds are significantly affected by a normal left-handed grip. Notice the numerous users who've reported dropped calls. I've actually tested call quality by calling my landline's voice mail. When the phone is lying flat on a table, call quality is great. As soon as I pick it up, call quality degrades where I can only make out about one in four words...When I set the phone back on the table it also takes a long time for the call quality to recover...
The solution seems to be the "bumper" which Apple should make available for free in lieu of a production recall...
I can confirm this with my iPhone 4. I turned off Wi-FI and used SpeedTest. Here are my results:
Holding the phone with an open palm:
Using the "Death Grip":
I upgraded my old 3G to iOS4 on the day it was released. Boy, am I sorry. Steve wasn't kidding when he said the processor wasn't even strong enough to run the wallpaper feature. Truth be told, it isn't strong enough to run any of it. I am going to restore the old OS as soon as I can. Every process on the phone has slowed down--it's now a slug. My advice to all, unless you have a 3G(s), don't upgrade.
But how are you going to use the gyroscope feature or noise cancellation technology of iOS 4.0 if you downgrade??
I can confirm this with my iPhone 4. I turned off Wi-FI and used SpeedTest. Here are my results:
Holding the phone with an open palm:
Using the "Death Grip":
"Don't be a crybaby, you're just holding the phone wrong. Buy a $29.99 rubber bumper if you are still incompetent enough to hold a phone properly." -Steve Jobs
The article suggesting it's a software issue and there'll be a fix just doesn't pass the common sense test. The author is suggesting that it's merely that the signal strength indicator is incorrect. That the signal is actually solid even when the status indicates "no signal".
But this is not true. Try any speed test and notice how the data download speeds are significantly affected by a normal left-handed grip. Notice the numerous users who've reported dropped calls. I've actually tested call quality by calling my landline's voice mail. When the phone is lying flat on a table, call quality is great. As soon as I pick it up, call quality degrades where I can only make out about one in four words...When I set the phone back on the table it also takes a long time for the call quality to recover...
That doesn't mean it is not a software issue. All cell phones experience this due to the placement of the antennas at the bottom of the handset. FCC requires that they be placed as far as possible from the head. The issue is also experienced on a 3GS that has been upgraded to iOS4.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20008945-263.html
It has to do with the way the signal degradation/strenth is handled by the software. The same way your transmitter/receiver power is cranked up when you have poor cell reception. This is all handled in software, not hardware.
if you are an early adopter, give this thing some time in the wild, and also think about how many people do NOT have problems. As long as that's the vast majority - there is no real problem.
It's much more fun to whine that the over-percieved problem is the end of the world!
Hate trolls?
Stop reading g3pro comments.
I would if people would stop quoting entire posts of trolls...
BTW - iPhone 3Gs upgraded to iOS 4 and an iPhone 4 that work fine - so far the iPhone 4 has been flawless - no dropped or failed calls yet - woot!
Yeah, flawless. I dont sit here and bitch about little "issues" which are really non-issues. Mine has worked well beyond my expectations.
Agreed, I have no issues with mine, I can replicate the no bars syndrome but even when it is showing no bars i can still make and receive calls no problem, so let's see what Apple come up with for a fix before we write off the new gorgeous flawless iPhone4
What kind of an argument is that? Yeah, no one is forcing me to buy a phone that I wanted but doesn't work as advertised because when you hold it in your left hand it slows data speeds and drops calls. Present a decent argument, otherwise quit talking out your ass.
Excessive moisture increases conduction between the two antennas.
So why do you have sweaty palms? The only way I could replicate the behavior was by licking my palm (It's kind of childish but this is...)
And even in displaying No Service, amazingly the phone still made and connected to a call that sounded fine. Is that a decent enough argument that it's predominantly a software issue, or is the iPhone 4 fatally flawed and we shouldn't bother trying to confuse you with facts?
To determine whether this is just a problem with the software measurement of the signal strength, I tested the actual data throughput speed in both unheld and held states. The impact of holding the iPhone in your hand is SEVERE, cutting up/down speeds to a fraction of their unheld potential. Here are the results.
You will get the same thing with the 3GS - or any other smart phone.
Body mass (salt water specifically) absorbs and thus reduces radio frequency radiation.
Period.
"You canna change the laws of physics"
You might want to really read the article that was linked to in the orignal story:
http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys...-antennas.html
Particularly the last line. Maybe twice, just to ensure you read what the author really wrote and not what you expect him to write (unlike some other posters in this thread).
More than a problem with the iPhone, this is an example of totally unrealistic expectations by people who really do think this crap works by magic