Surely that was the biggest farce Ive ever seen in F1. Ferrari deserve to be called up by the FIA, and Michael's win should be declared void.
IT WAS FARCE.
I think we may be seeing the downfall of Micheal Schumacher. The crowd reaction was a classic. But even better was Ralf's expression looking at MS in parc ferme.
No kidding, i was so glad to see even Ferrari fans booing the decision. Thumbs down from everybody in the grandstand. I still can't believe it. It's really unfrotunate for Barrichello...Ferrari is his best shot at major points, just not the championship.
1) He gets the cars that aren't good enough for Schumacher, he gets no "T" car half the time.
2) He has to bow to Schumacher like this.
But where else can he go? The only other team even close to being competitive is Williams, and Williams already has two outstanding drivers...and no clear favorite.
But what can you do...It's not illegal...the move wasn't dangerous, unlike Michael's signature sweeping procedure when he gets pole.
Apparently McLaren are already doing 'quantum leap' work on Next years car. Hopefully Hakkinen will come back better than ever, hopefully with Kimi Raikkonen in tow, and we gan get some good McLaren/Williams/Ferrariscum real racing.
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It's not very sportive, but it's a good decision if Ferrari want to win the title of best pilot. When Shumi will have the right number of point to win the title who will see that in the reverse configuration Shumi will let win his teammate. That's whas already the case in the past.
this thing is very common in the world championship of rally.
However in a spectator point of vue i agree it's not nice, luckyly i have not see the race. The time of chevalry is dead, now it's the time for big busisness in sport.
frankly, I just want to see the BMWs win, especially Montoya... he's got the talent to challenge Shumi, it's just a question of getting it all right...
Rumor has it that the engine can produce over 1000 hp unreglated.
I've been a Ferrari fan for a long long time but things like that just make me loose interest in the sport. It's just pathetic, sad. You can never justify things like that. This would be easier to understand in the last race of the season in a make or brake situation but so early on it's just unbelievable. But as I said, it's pathetic, unforgivable
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It certainly has become that way over the last couple of years. There was a time when I'd get up at 4 am to watch Australia, or arrange all my mates to go and watch it at the pub/bar,
Now I can barely drag myself to the TV, knowing I'll probably be disappointed. Todays race would have been slightly above average, but the end ruined it all.
Id like to see all the manufacturers group together to build 1 car, same with the engines. No team orders or foul play, Its ridiculous the amount of budget difference between the top teams and the bottom. I just wanna see a good clean fight from start to finish, involving talent rather than budget. I suspect this is what everyone else wants too see also.
<strong>Its ridiculous the amount of budget difference between the top teams and the bottom.</strong><hr></blockquote>A bit like as in football. But not as in tennis, Anders
<strong>Id like to see all the manufacturers group together to build 1 car, same with the engines. No team orders or foul play, Its ridiculous the amount of budget difference between the top teams and the bottom. I just wanna see a good clean fight from start to finish, involving talent rather than budget. I suspect this is what everyone else wants too see also.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You should watch CART. CART has been slowly phasing out its oval tracks over the last few years, and the competition is closer than ever thanks to Chris Pook.
Joking? What do you mean? Is that an insult? A bit of European 'F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport' elitism there? After what I've witnessed today, F1 has become more WWF and soap opera-like than ever.
CART cars are faster on everything but the most squirrelly of tracks, the engines are cooler...2.65 liter turbos (though they're changing the formula next season.) The cars run on methanol, so drivers won't catch on fire...and stay on fire. You won't see any fires like the one that engulfed Jos Verstappen's entire car in 1994...or Niki Lauda in 1976 or so.
Not only is the racing much closer, it is more dynamic. The roar of CART engines is unlike anything else. Even more so, it's not only the teams that can afford gigantic wind tunnels and supreme facilities that win.
And CART also has an outsanding history of safety...whether it's the emergency personnel, the mobile hospital, or the rules they implement...like making the HANS device mandatory.
Eh, it's not fun watching Schumacher run away with the championship year after year, and to not see any other teams able to compete on the level of Ferrari.
I watch both, but CART is a lot more fun to watch these days.
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IT WAS FARCE.
I think we may be seeing the downfall of Micheal Schumacher. The crowd reaction was a classic. But even better was Ralf's expression looking at MS in parc ferme.
Hey that two evil uses of the letters MS!
1) He gets the cars that aren't good enough for Schumacher, he gets no "T" car half the time.
2) He has to bow to Schumacher like this.
But where else can he go? The only other team even close to being competitive is Williams, and Williams already has two outstanding drivers...and no clear favorite.
But what can you do...It's not illegal...the move wasn't dangerous, unlike Michael's signature sweeping procedure when he gets pole.
Ugh.
<a href="http://www.ferrari-group.com"; target="_blank">http://www.ferrari-group.com</a>;
It got hacked over all of this.
[quote] S4t4n1c_Souls was here **** u Ferrari Mercenaries **** **** **** always your capitalist of shit BARRICHELO ROX FERRARI SUX! [email protected] <hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
J :cool:
this thing is very common in the world championship of rally.
However in a spectator point of vue i agree it's not nice, luckyly i have not see the race. The time of chevalry is dead, now it's the time for big busisness in sport.
Also, no, this is not common in many other motorsports.
Rumor has it that the engine can produce over 1000 hp unreglated.
Bavarian MOTOR Works, indeed.
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IT WAS FARCE.</strong><hr></blockquote>F1 is a farce. Thank you.
- T.I.
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<strong>F1 is a farce. Thank you.
- T.I.
[ 05-12-2002: Message edited by: The Installer ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
It certainly has become that way over the last couple of years. There was a time when I'd get up at 4 am to watch Australia, or arrange all my mates to go and watch it at the pub/bar,
Now I can barely drag myself to the TV, knowing I'll probably be disappointed. Todays race would have been slightly above average, but the end ruined it all.
Id like to see all the manufacturers group together to build 1 car, same with the engines. No team orders or foul play, Its ridiculous the amount of budget difference between the top teams and the bottom. I just wanna see a good clean fight from start to finish, involving talent rather than budget. I suspect this is what everyone else wants too see also.
<strong>Its ridiculous the amount of budget difference between the top teams and the bottom.</strong><hr></blockquote>A bit like as in football. But not as in tennis, Anders
- T.I.
<strong>Id like to see all the manufacturers group together to build 1 car, same with the engines. No team orders or foul play, Its ridiculous the amount of budget difference between the top teams and the bottom. I just wanna see a good clean fight from start to finish, involving talent rather than budget. I suspect this is what everyone else wants too see also.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You should watch CART.
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You should watch CART. </strong><hr></blockquote> You must be joking right???
CART cars are faster on everything but the most squirrelly of tracks, the engines are cooler...2.65 liter turbos (though they're changing the formula next season.) The cars run on methanol, so drivers won't catch on fire...and stay on fire. You won't see any fires like the one that engulfed Jos Verstappen's entire car in 1994...or Niki Lauda in 1976 or so.
Not only is the racing much closer, it is more dynamic. The roar of CART engines is unlike anything else. Even more so, it's not only the teams that can afford gigantic wind tunnels and supreme facilities that win.
And CART also has an outsanding history of safety...whether it's the emergency personnel, the mobile hospital, or the rules they implement...like making the HANS device mandatory.
Eh, it's not fun watching Schumacher run away with the championship year after year, and to not see any other teams able to compete on the level of Ferrari.
I watch both, but CART is a lot more fun to watch these days.
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