Some of Apple's new MacBook Airs exhibiting issues with logic board, display

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  • Reply 21 of 58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve-J View Post


    These execution problems are starting to pile up.



    They're getting bigger. This stuff will happen.
  • Reply 22 of 58
    Apple's designs kick ass, but their quality control (i.e. implementation) is not up to par. At all.



    Sometimes this is rectified with a software update, but other times it isn't. For instance, their magic mouse - good luck getting one where the top isn't loose and it clicks evenly on the left and right sides.



    As far as I'm concerned, Apple's batting about .20 in terms of delivering to you the same level of quality they have on display at their stores. Get it sorted, guys.
  • Reply 23 of 58
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    Originally Posted by Tofino View Post


    AirGate!



    Sounds like a shoe.
  • Reply 24 of 58
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 4,675member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    So your advice is to buy the old model after the new ones are released? Since each revision will have a new logic board to some extent you are suggesting that everyone wait for a duration, but you don?t say what that duration is.



    Some folks are experiencing problems, post a you-tube, let it get viral, and suddenly every single unit is flawed. Sounds familiar?



    But..but... don't EVER buy a rev. A product!!! Guinea Pigs!!



    but, it's not a revA. It's actually a Rev C!!



    But.. but.. it's actually a rev A of the rev B!!!



    But then doesn't that mean it's a Rev C??



    No.. it doesn't mean that...



    So every model is a rev A? When does anything ever get to Rev B??



    *scratches head*
  • Reply 25 of 58
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    Originally Posted by Quillz View Post


    And this is why, no matter how tempting the new Air models may look, you wait until the second revision to buy.



    And it's not just Apple... All computer manufacturers rarely get it right on the first try. It's better to wait for the second revision, which almost always adds features and cuts the price, anyway.



    I almost bought the 11.6 inch model, but settled on the white Macbook out of fear of the Apple First Iteration Curse. Glad I did as I would most likely ( I am cursed in regards to electronics) would get a bad machine.
  • Reply 26 of 58
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    Always buy Apple Care. They will take care of you.



    Nothing like buying a new machine and having to return it to the store 3 days later for repairs. Great, you have a warranty. Not so great...you are already using it because you decided to be a guinea pig.
  • Reply 27 of 58
    ktappektappe Posts: 770member
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    Originally Posted by lamewing View Post


    Nothing like buying a new machine and having to return it to the store 3 days later for repairs. Great, you have a warranty. Not so great...you are already using it because you decided to be a guinea pig.



    So don't get rid of the old machine the very first day. Plan for some overlap. Duh?

    (Well, to be fair, many don't. See also: Space Shuttle being retired years before the replacement is ready....) \
  • Reply 28 of 58
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    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    I have an imac which is NOT the first revision, and due to some 'glitch' or other it does not function beyond 10.6.2. After that the screen freezes frequently and the machine becomes inoperable. I am not alone so the early adopters thing is not always true. Just saying. Besides its my guess that the smug ones who apparently never buy first revision would, in fact, if they could.



    You must have bought your machine in the summer of 2007. There seems to be quite a few around August of 2007 that have this glitch... and, just to let you know... that model is rev 1 for the new metal body.
  • Reply 29 of 58
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    Some folks are experiencing problems, post a you-tube, let it get viral, and suddenly every single unit is flawed. Sounds familiar?



    But..but... don't EVER buy a rev. A product!!! Guinea Pigs!!



    but, it's not a revA. It's actually a Rev C!!



    But.. but.. it's actually a rev A of the rev B!!!



    But then doesn't that mean it's a Rev C??



    No.. it doesn't mean that...



    So every model is a rev A? When does anything ever get to Rev B??



    *scratches head*



    But isn't everything that Apple makes already perfect to begin with? So why have revisions at all?



    Wasn't the original MacBook Pro considered "perfect" so why change the design?



    Isn't the current iPad already "perfect" so why add any new features?
  • Reply 30 of 58
    G3 iBook part deux.
  • Reply 31 of 58
    postulantpostulant Posts: 1,270member
    We're only on the first page, and this thread has already unraveled.



    Sad.
  • Reply 32 of 58




    I see the problem right there! The MBA "panicked" because some moron put a full drink so close to it!
  • Reply 33 of 58
    chiachia Posts: 701member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quillz View Post


    And this is why, no matter how tempting the new Air models may look, you wait until the second revision to buy.



    And it's not just Apple... All computer manufacturers rarely get it right on the first try. It's better to wait for the second revision.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sippincider View Post


    Know your production dates, and never buy the first run of anything.



    Computers, cars, whatever.



    If everybody took your advice they'll be no second run.



    If our distant ancestors took your advice then we will all be still running around naked, grunting at each other and eating raw meat.



    Thank goodness for the bold ones, they push us forward.
  • Reply 34 of 58
    chiachia Posts: 701member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    But isn't everything that Apple makes already perfect to begin with? So why have revisions at all?



    Wasn't the original MacBook Pro considered "perfect" so why change the design?



    Isn't the current iPad already "perfect" so why add any new features?



    for the same reasons why you, as no doubt being the perfect child, developed (will develop?) into the perfect adult,

    or perhaps you're content remaining the perfect child?
  • Reply 35 of 58
    chiachia Posts: 701member
    The next model will usually be better than the predecessor but if you can afford to wait for the next model then you don't need a new machine in the first place!



    You can wait in perpetuity for the next best thing. An extreme example would be someone looking at the 1989 Mac Portable and only now deciding to buy a Macbook Air in 2010.

    Yes, they've saved a bundle of money and have a machine light years ahead of what was originally considered, but look at all the capabilities they would have missed out on in the intervening years!



    Who knows, if he'd decided to buy a Powerbook G3 prior to the Air he may have been productive enough to make more money than he saved by holding out for the Air!



    The new machines are meeting people's needs and desires now.

    It's presumptive to write off these new Airs as problematic without knowing the incidence of failure.

    No manufacturing process is perfect, not even those which produce critical items like pharmaceuticals and aircraft parts.
  • Reply 36 of 58
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    Some folks are experiencing problems, post a you-tube, let it get viral, and suddenly every single unit is flawed. Sounds familiar?



    But..but... don't EVER buy a rev. A product!!! Guinea Pigs!!



    but, it's not a revA. It's actually a Rev C!!



    But.. but.. it's actually a rev A of the rev B!!!



    But then doesn't that mean it's a Rev C??



    No.. it doesn't mean that...



    So every model is a rev A? When does anything ever get to Rev B??



    *scratches head*



    You quite obviously don't know much about Apple's recent history with new products. Their QC testing of designs is not very good.



    iPhone DST alarm bug

    iPhone 4 antennae

    iPhone proximity sensor

    iPad WiFi issue

    Macbook unibody audio

    Macbook unibody auto-eject headphone socket

    Macbook unibody Super drives

    27" iMac screens -cracks - flickering

    Racoon iMac screens 20",24"

    Time capsule power supply





    and on, and on, and...
  • Reply 37 of 58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    You quite obviously don't know much about Apple's recent history with new products. Their QC testing of designs is not very good.



    iPhone DST alarm bug

    iPhone 4 antennae

    iPhone proximity sensor

    iPad WiFi issue

    Macbook unibody audio

    Macbook unibody auto-eject headphone socket

    Macbook unibody Super drives

    27" iMac screens -cracks - flickering

    Racoon iMac screens 20",24"

    Time capsule power supply





    and on, and on, and...



    So, Apple shouldn't release anything until they've squashed every single bug!



    Their poor QC testing definitely explains their terrible quarterly sales performance, their abysmal stock value (see the right side of the AI masthead), and their embarrassing customer satisfaction rating.



    And this is supposed to be a recession!!!
  • Reply 38 of 58
    steve-jsteve-j Posts: 320member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Firefly7475 View Post


    They're getting bigger. This stuff will happen.





    Yep.



    But growing pains can be a huge problem. I used to do a lot of work for retail clients. Some of them were in huge growth spurts. Many times, they got ahead of themselves both WRT management and WRT capital. Many times they went from rapid growth to huge money and management problems.



    One regional manager can handle a bunch of stores, for example, but maybe not triple that number, and especially not when he's got to open a bunch of stores at the same time he's got mangers quitting right and left to go to the competitor's stores. Training programs, defaulting contractors, gaps in management, fires and middle-of-the-night burglaries - they add up when you are trying to grow rapidly.



    Apple has the some of the best minds in the business, and hopefully, they are managing their new accelerating growth with consummate skill. The supply problems are a current problem. But if design problems creep in, that can be a much bigger problem.
  • Reply 39 of 58
    this isn't exactly new, I've weathered the super loud MDD G4s, the lower ram slot dead issue on the powerbook, suicidal logic boards on the iBooks, the exploding caps on the imac G5, the self destructing MBP 2.2s (video).



    Luck of the draw sometimes, not so much that it's rev A.
  • Reply 40 of 58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Futuristic View Post


    So, Apple shouldn't release anything until they've squashed every single bug!



    Their poor QC testing definitely explains their terrible quarterly sales performance, their abysmal stock value (see the right side of the AI masthead), and their embarrassing customer satisfaction rating.



    And this is supposed to be a recession!!!



    First, sarcasm solves nothing, but it does make you look like an idiot.

    Second, we don't expect EVERY bug to be found, but we do expect better QC than of recent from Apple.
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