Gartner mobile figures supporting Android differ from IDC by 77 million

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in iPhone edited January 2014
In their latest quarterly reports on the mobile industry, Gartner and IDC have reported numbers that are wildly different, with Garner counting 77 million additional units sold. Gartner also assumes the use of Android by a large number of unspecified "Other" phone manufacturers, greatly reducing the market share of Apple, RIM, and even the major Android makers.



That huge discrepancy in counting global phone sales is, as noted by Asymco blogger Horace Dediu, "nearly as big as all the smartphones sold (81 million). This is not within any margin of error for whatever sampling method they use."



Dediu added that IDC and Gartner "need to clarify this because until they do, neither is credible."



The Mysterious Others



The huge difference in reported phone sales allowed Gartner to describe a huge category of "Other," unnamed phone vendors who the firm claims are now collectively selling low end phones at an astoundingly high growth rate well above the rapidly growing HTC and Apple, and incredibly far above the industry average growth rate.



According to Gartner, this "Other" category reportedly ballooned from 16% to 33% of the mobile phone market in one year. Dediu wrote that Gartner analysts "state that the incumbent vendors are being pressured by these low end [other] entrants. They go on to explain that the same set of vendors will probably use Android to enter the smartphone space."



Gartner's mobile sales figures for recognizable brands, including Nokia, Samsung, Apple, RIM, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, HTC, and even the two smaller brands ZTE and Huawei, all show plausable growth rates in unit sales:



Nokia added a few thousand units but still slipped in market share; second place Samsung boosted sales by more than 10,000 units but still slipped in market share; RIM grew sales by three thousand but remained nearly static in market share, while Apple nearly doubled its phone sales (thanks to the launch of iPhone 4) and yet only inched up a little from 2.3% to 3.2% of the overall phone market.



LG, Sony Ericsson and Motorola all slipped significantly in quarterly sales, while the much smaller ZTE and Huawei increased sales (but not significant market share). Outside of these brands however, the Other category ballooned dramatically from 49.8 million units to 137.8 million, a fantastic increase that gobbled up twice as much market share as Gartner assigned to "everyone else" a year ago.









Others all assumed to use Android



Gartner's figures by operating system (rather than vendor) suggest that a large part of this "Other" growth is benefitting Android. While Gartner notes that the major Android licensees Samsung, Sony Ericsson, Motorola and HTC have only grown their sales moderately (or none) over the past year, and that all have actually lost overall market share, it reports that Android as a platform has ballooned from 3.5% of the market to an incredible 25.5% of the smartphone market.



Symbian, Apple's iOS, RIM, Windows Mobile, Linux and "Other OS" were all assigned flat or sharply lower market share, making it clear that Garner is assuming that most of the smartphones included in its 88 million new phones attributed to "Other" vendors (77 million of which no other firm has noticed in its own counts) must all be using Android.



While Android has helped Motorola, HTC and Samsung to deliver popular new models, Gartner's data does not indicate that its fantastic growth rates for "Other" Android makers are coming from sales of the popular Droid, Incredible and Galaxy models. Instead, the vast majority of Gartner's reported growth in Android is coming from unnamed companies more obscure than even ZTE and Huawei, and all small enough not to figure into Gartner's top tepee vendor brand list.



Gartner does not figure Apple's iPod touch and iPad sales into its mobile numbers, so presumably the firm isn't counting a huge swell of off-brand Android tablets or other devices to pad Android's purported growth. Where are these huge numbers of small phone companies selling their tens of millions of phones, what brands of phones do they sell, and why aren't these tens of millions of users showing up in Android app store sales or web use statistics? Gartner hasn't offered any challengable details.



Because Gartner bases its numbers on sell through to end users, while IDC's figures are based on sell in to vendors, any balloon of inventory should be reported by IDC first, rather than showing up in Gartner's figures of actual phones sold.



Gartner: they are white box PC phones



A report by Philip Elmer-DeWitt of Fortune cites a comment from a Gartner PR representative explaining where these "other" phones might be. "Effectively, many companies can now assemble large numbers of handsets cheaply using readily-available components -- in much the same way that white box PC manufacturers were able to do so in the past. These companies are increasingly exporting to countries with high demand for basic handsets."



The report also references a Gartner press release noting that the mobile market for phones in India is expected to exceed 138 million this year, a large number of which are increasingly being supplied from Chinese vendors (although the Indian government has since banned Chinese knockoff phones that lack proper IMEI numbers). Gartner's Anshul Gupta wrote in that report that "the average selling price (ASP) of a mobile device [in India] is approximately $52, with 85 percent of devices sold costing below $100.?



Given that mainstream Android phones sell for about $600, it's hard to imagine that a vast segment of new low cost phones are reaching well below $100 because of Android, or that if these phones were using Android, that they would be recognizable to users in the West as Android smartphones. A profile of "the five cheapest Android phones in India" by India Business Blog lists models all selling for around $200 to $300, far above the $52 ASP Gartner cites for the region.



Certainly the majority of India's phones can't be running Android, and other market data does not show this to be the case. While Android offers a less expensive smartphone platform than Windows Phone 7, it is not price competitive with embedded devices that do not require the minimum components needed to host an Android smartphone, exemplified in the $200-$300 Android models now available in India.



Maintaining the fiction for convenience



The Fortune report also included a comment from a former IDC employee, who notes that his firm regularly based its market share figures on manufacturer's reported sales. "We just did some systematic adjustments to the vendor guidance and called it a day," the reader explained.



He portrayed the industry's analyst unit counts and market share growth statistics, not as a scientific exercise, but an effort to create numbers that "maintain the fiction because it was convenient." He writes that the goal was to "preserve the growth rates; to hell with the actual numbers. Even the growth rates are fiction.



"The fudge is in the 'others' category, which is used as a plug to make the numbers work out. In fairness, we did do survey work, calling around, and attending white box conferences and venues to try to get a feel for that market, but in the end, the process was political. I used to tell customers which parts of the data they could trust, essentially the major vendors by form factor and region. The rest was garbage."



Microsoft: analysts' business model is selling out



Gartner has historically worked to influence public opinion by crafting numbers that support the firms that support it. In the late 90s, Gartner partnered with Microsoft to release research that said WIndows provided lower Total Cost of Ownership compared to competing thin client Network Computers.



An internal, confidential Microsoft memo made public during the monopoly trial acknowledged that "analysts sell out ? that?s their business model. But they are very concerned that they never look like they are selling out, so that makes them very prickly to work with.?



Gartner later announced research in 2005 that Microsoft's Windows Mobile 5 would largely defeat Symbian as soon as the company shipped it. In reality, Symbian still remains in the lead today, only having take a beating from the iPhone, RIM, and Android. Windows Mobile never really even threatened Symbian.



Gartner has most recently announced that Android would become the second largest mobile platform by 2012, releasing research that said Android's market share would grow 400 percent in two years, Windows Mobile 7 would grow by 70 to 80 percent, Apple would remain stagnant, and RIM would drop by half.
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  • Reply 1 of 55
    grkinggrking Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Maintaing the fiction for convenience



    The Fortune report also included a comment from a former IDC employee, who notes that his firm regularly based its market share figures on manufacturer's reported sales. "We just did some systematic adjustments to the vendor guidance and called it a day," the reader explained.



    He portrayed the industry's analyst unit counts and market share growth statistics, not as a scientific exercise, but an effort to create numbers that "maintain the fiction because it was convenient." He writes that the goal was to "preserve the growth rates; to hell with the actual numbers. Even the growth rates are fiction.



    "The fudge is in the 'others' category, which is used as a plug to make the numbers work out. In fairness, we did do survey work, calling around, and attending white box conferences and venues to try to get a feel for that market, but in the end, the process was political. I used to tell customers which parts of the data they could trust, essentially the major vendors by form factor and region. The rest was garbage."



    Microsoft: analysts' business model is selling out



    Gartner has historically worked to influence public opinion by crafting numbers that support the firms that support it. In the late 90s, Gartner partnered with Microsoft to release research that said WIndows provided lower Total Cost of Ownership compared to competing thin client Network Computers.



    An internal, confidential Microsoft memo made public during the monopoly trial acknowledged that "analysts sell out – that’s their business model. But they are very concerned that they never look like they are selling out, so that makes them very prickly to work with.”



    Gartner later announced research in 2005 that Microsoft's Windows Mobile 5 would largely defeat Symbian as soon as the company shipped it. In reality, Symbian still remains in the lead today, only having take a beating from the iPhone, RIM, and Android. Windows Mobile never really even threatened Symbian.



    Gartner has most recently announced that Android would become the second largest mobile platform by 2012, releasing research that said Android's market share would grow 400 percent in two years, Windows Mobile 7 would grow by 70 to 80 percent, Apple would remain stagnant, and RIM would drop by half.



    The moral of the story - who the heck really knows what is going on.
  • Reply 2 of 55
    One more problem with creating an OS in house, then opening up hardware to all comers.
  • Reply 3 of 55
    I seem to remember analyists were saying 9 months ago, that Apple would sell 1.5 million iPads in 2010. They will actually sell over 10 million. Why are anyone surprised when these people come out with dumb figures. It's all guesswork.
  • Reply 4 of 55
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    You have to forgive both IDC and Gartner. When two groups are making up numbers out of thin air, there is bound to be some discrepancy. Can Gartner even tell us who they think these mythical other Android manufacturers are?



    In my numbers I assume all the "Others" are pirating iOS, and I must say it is really kicking ass.
  • Reply 5 of 55
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member
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  • Reply 6 of 55
    samabsamab Posts: 1,953member
    Where were all of you when Munster put out that idiotic 45 million iphone figure or Andy Zaky pulling numbers out of thin air?
  • Reply 7 of 55
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    Simple!



    Eric Schmidt says they are activating 855,556 per day!





    Edit: Oops! I meant: Eric Schmidt says they are activating 855,556 more per day!





    Edit2: These were remote controls for the 77 million Google TVs sold during the quarter.



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  • Reply 8 of 55
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    Originally Posted by Wovel View Post


    You have to forgive both IDC and Gartner. When two groups are making up numbers out of thin air, there is bound to be some discrepancy. Can Gartner even tell us who they think these mythical other Android manufacturers are?



    In my numbers I assume all the "Others" are pirating iOS, and I must say it is really kicking ass.



    So true!



    We were recently romanced by Gartner: totally 'pay to play'. Probably IDC too. Welcome to America!
  • Reply 9 of 55
    A lot of what we think we know about this stuff from data-broking consultants like Gartner is of highly questionable value (not unlike the Neilsen ratings for TV).



    Yet, forums run with these like they are the truth.



    The only thing one can trust is segment reporting from the companies themselves. However, outside of Apple, RIM, and Nokia, getting any decent numbers on smartphones -- especially from the Android types such as Motorola, HTC, Samsung, etc -- is like pulling teeth.



    I have never trusted the Android numbers from Day 1, and don't plan to start anytime soon. Unless they start to show up the segment reports in their SEC filings, caveat investor.
  • Reply 10 of 55
    There is a huge difference between forecasts, and historical estimates....



    The former is just guesswork. The latter should be educated guesswork.
  • Reply 11 of 55
    All I care about is how many "glass" smart phones are being sold!



    In other words, the more Apple sells, the more they are going to invest in the next gen., iPhone.



    Which, essentially means, I win and you win, too!



    I liken it to when I was playing a lot of tennis. Nike was selling a boat load of tennis shoes, via Sampras and Agassi. I reasoned they sold more, made more money, and therefore invested more than the other shoe companies. Reebok sucked, Converse sucked, Adidas sucked, Diadora sucked, Fila sucked, Prince sucked, Wilson sucked...But every 4 months Nike was coming out with an improved shoe!



    Granted I paid more for Nike...but having the best shoes took them out of the "equation." So all I had to concentrate on was my fitness, my strategy, my tactics and my execution of said strategy and tactics. (I also bought the best jockstrap so my balls were always "taken care of." In fact, I think, on the package, there was a guarantee that said, "No Cock will 'Pop' out of our strap."





    With Apple, I trust Stevo and his battalion of PHD's to provide the best digital experience available, given the tech available at the time.



    If it was not for Apple, we would all be using the original "plastic" Blackberries that felt like holding up a "cheeseburger to your ear" or a desktop that looks like creaky, plasticky "death" provided by Dell with dusty cables and pwr bricks galore or an OS provided by MS that looked like something from Hasbro/Fischer Price and whose error messages would make a grown man cry in frustration! I mean, think about it...Dell's solution to a supposedly "wireless" mouse and keyboard involved "wires" to a receiver cable to the back of your tower! Sheez!



    Best



    PS. Or an MP3 player from Dell (Uggh!), a brown Zune from MS, an iTunes equivalent from MS, Media player (Uggh!), Palm's smart phones, Dell's PDA's, Sony's abominations...HP's crap, Gateway's crap, Compaq's crap...the list goes on and on.







    Comments? 2 cents, Akac, alexkhan2000, chad.price, Dick Applebaum, mdriftmeyer, msantti, NasserAE, palter, Peleas, piot, radster360
  • Reply 12 of 55
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    If statistics can be used to influence people -- someone will find a way to make money influencing statistics!





    Back in the 1950's there was this big scandle called Payola:



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola



    Simplistically: Record companies would pay disc jockeys to play their records more often on their radio shows. This would influence the top 100 ratings -- the songs were reported as more popular than they actually were.



    These "Top 100" charts were reported weekly. Of course, if you wanted to be "cool" (it was called "hot" back then) -- you just had to buy the top hits...



    Today, we would call this RecordGate!



    The government got involved, passed laws -- made it worse.



    As a know-it-all teenager, something my dad had always said, suddenly made sense: "Son, don't believe everything you read (or hear)."





    A few years ago, a high-up executive in the music industry, explained how Payola is done today -- yes, differently, more sophisticated, but still being done.





    So, you have to ask: Who benefits from artificially inflated numbers? How?



    I'll leave that to others to determine!





    I often cite statistics that support the assertions I make. I will try to be more discerning and qualify those citations when necessary.



    FWIW, I question everything that the author of this article publishes or posts. DED, frequently cites himself, arranges events and facts to suit his agenda, and ignores or minimizes those that do not meet his requirements.



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  • Reply 13 of 55
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    If statistics can be used to influence people -- someone will find a way to make money influencing statistics!



    Back in the 1950's there was this big scandle called Payola:



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    Agreed, Dick...



    I would say, there are designated "lanes" corporations can "drive" in. Much like a highway. The more money they make, the more money they can spend on "buying" our elected officials to widen said "lanes." Hence, they make more money and on and on it goes!



    If it was left up to corporations, there wouldn't be a tree left standing in the Northwest, you could walk across Lake Erie and you could cut the air in LA with a knife!



    Best
  • Reply 14 of 55
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    Don't forget the HP Android printers.



    Surely they count too!
  • Reply 15 of 55
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member
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  • Reply 16 of 55
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    The stats from both companies also show Apple with a larger market share than Android.



    I guess that can only mean Apple is part of the conspiracy too!



    Consider the conspicuous absence of Steve Jobs from all pictures of the grassy knoll....



    I think I get your drift...but probably too intellectual for me!



    Best
  • Reply 17 of 55
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    One says "Others", the smaller one says "Android". Sounds like this mystifies only the writers at AI, as everyone can probably figure out that "Android" is a subset of "Others".



    Look at the figures for manufacturers. Gartner's "Others" section says about 1,377,970 phones were shipped by others. IDC's "Others" section - which includes Sony Ericsson, Motorola, HTC etc. that were given their own section in Gartner's figures - shows only about 1,038,000 shipments.



    Gartner is assuming that the majority of these extra 77 million phones - that no-one else seems to know about - are running Android and thus, seem to be randomly increasing their estimated Android market share.
  • Reply 18 of 55
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    If statistics can be used to influence people -- someone will find a way to make money influencing statistics!



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    human nature doesn't change much does it?



    And so we have "creative" statistics, massaged reports and a general lack of veracity in those who claim authority. Wish I could say I'm shocked but that would be 89% inaccurate with a margin of error of .02%.
  • Reply 19 of 55
    Will these stats be what decides your next phone purchase? I doubt it



    Buy what you buy.



    Personally I'm with the more money = more development approach. Linked to that is where the money comes from. Google is ads, so their development angle is ad centric, not os centric. Moto and friends are volume based, rapid release hardware so they dump the last as soon as the next comes and the next is built with minimal research, maximum off the shelf bits with packaging tweaks. Apple is a premimum profit per unit, minimal models, annual release so they research to reduce their cost and leverage research from across each release.



    I'll go with the premium research based low volume provider, thanks. I don't want an ad focus or a fire and forget focus.
  • Reply 20 of 55
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    a lot of what we think we know about this stuff from data-broking consultants like gartner is of highly questionable value (not unlike the neilsen ratings for tv).



    Yet, forums run with these like they are the truth.



    The only thing one can trust is segment reporting from the companies themselves. However, outside of apple, rim, and nokia, getting any decent numbers on smartphones -- especially from the android types such as motorola, htc, samsung, etc -- is like pulling teeth.



    I have never trusted the android numbers from day 1, and don't plan to start anytime soon. Unless they start to show up the segment reports in their sec filings, caveat investor.



    +++ qft



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