I would have bought the original iPad. I want an iPad 2 but still cannot justify purchasing one as my Macbook is still in good health and does most of what I'd use the iPad for. For me the iPad will be a replacement of my Macbook so I may have to wait for the iPad 3. It certainly won't replace my iMac though. At least not with the current model.
This confirms what some people were saying during the iPad2 frenzy at the Boylston Apple Store last Friday.
A friend of mine also wants the iPad but she is happy with her iPhone4 right now. She is still saving money to buy either the MacBook Air or the original iPad. That was late last year. She has not seen the new iPad yet. They were too busy with a big event this April.
So it's pretentious to love computers, and see their potential?
I used to love Apple when they were about bicycles for the mind, now they are about tricycles for the mind.
Somewhere on the way to simplifying people's work tools they got sidetracked on to making toys. Simple things and toys are related concepts, so there was always a danger of that in their DNA. They always hype their sales now, but so what if you're no longer doing good in the world? Those numbers are then just a measure of your evil.
I thought maybe if your first comment was ignored, you might drop this dead ended line of thinking, but it seems you want an argument.
That bicycle metaphor is way out of date, and I think Jobs would certainly disown it today. There was no internet to speak of then; the personal computer was mostly a stand-alone amplifier of an individual's mind.
Now it is obvious to anyone not stuck in left-brain categories -- anyone with imagination, in other words -- that the internet, the network, is the computer, and our various access devices are ways of adding or extracting knowledge or media in and out of the network.
If you could relax and allow yourself to use an iPad around the house and out in the world for a while, you would find that it can add enormously to what you can learn in one day, or to what you can accomplish in the way of always-on-anywhere communications with the connected world.
It is like a portable power tool, and once you've gone cordless, you are amazed at how much quicker and more flexible you can be.
And those lot of people did not buy it because the main reason is that "... the original iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch"???
The iPad's a lightweight, portable, secure, limited functionality computing device with a curated application store and a screen that's big enough to be useful.
I think it's safe to say most people bought the iPad because it's "a big iPod touch".
I'm going to be getting the black one, but after seeing the white one in person tonight, it's actually not that bad looking at all.
My girl will be getting the white one and I'll be getting the black one, so we don't get them mixed up.
The white one is gorgeous. I just don't understand some people that claim TV never have white bezel. Huh? I watched movies on my white notebook with no problem whatsoever.
Thanks! I'm not desperate or anything, and I haven't put any big effort into trying to obtain one yet. There are plenty of stores that sell them in my area, and new stock is coming in, so I'll eventually be able to grab one with a little luck.
"No one will buy the iPad... it is just a big iPod touch."
One was so bold enough to say he will eat his Blackberry Phone(???) if his prediction did not come true. I have yet to see the proof that he kept his word.
Not only did the iPad found its own users, it was such a very fast acceptance of a product of Apple that the likes of Microsoft, and others have tried, but never succeeded. And, so, they thought Apple would suffer similar fate as their own failure.
15 million original iPad buyers proved them wrong.
If I were one of the Apple/Steve Jobs haters & detractors, pundits, pseudo techno-analysts who made such predictions before even testing the original iPad, and kept maintaining that their perspectives/delusions must be how other people -- I would be more cautious making such unfounded and bold predictions.
Instead, they still maintain their delusions without so much as providing any proof:
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a lot of people did not buy "... the original iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch"???"
Transformative
Though I do not have any survey to show, i would not be too surprised if many iPad buyers never even knew or used the iPod touch. And, if they knew or heard about it, many might have considered that the iPod touch does not suit their purpose. The latter notion is supported that the type of activities and the duration spent for these activities are quite different between the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
Size matters. Any person who is perceptive and does some simple ruminations would come to a conclusion that a small Boeing Jumbo Jet is nothing but a big Cessna Jet, even if both are jets and are meant to transport people. Anyone who wants to debate this does not warrant any response.
That sensible people can find a more purposeful use of the iPad, and even can play a very key role in their profession is proven by my interactions with a few during the iPad2 launch on Friday. Last Sunday afternoon, I ended up not doing my work why at the Boylston Apple Store because I got into a productive discussion with a professional photographer. He has all these computers (a notebook, the original iPad) and external drives. He has at home servers and desktops to process his movies and photographs. He bought the original iPad for portability. On Sunday, he has his iPad and a MacBookPro because with the help of the local Apple staff, he was able finally to work on a proprietary Canon movie he took a few years back for a customer. He did not know how to transfer the proprietary video from his other Canon camera to iMovie, a problem that the staff at Apple was able to solve.
Yes, there was an "App for his need" that the Apple staff helped him find, and will be richer because he can now deliver the finished goods to his client.
He uses his original iPad not only on the move, but also to show his clients the finished product.
Why don't you just use the iPod touch? It is cheaper and even more portable, and the iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch, they say.
Try persuading a professional photographer, artist with that thinking. And let me know how well you will fare.
2011 is the Year of the Copycat
One can make a twist that this year would be indeed a year when there will be a banner of iPad-copycats, even among manufacturers who once tried but failed.
Remember the famous statement of Bill Gates regarding the original iPad? Now the company he founded, has been trying to come up with an iPad killer.
CGC
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Originally Posted by Firefly7475
The iPad's a lightweight, portable, secure, limited functionality computing device with a curated application store and a screen that's big enough to be useful.
I think it's safe to say most people bought the iPad because it's "a big iPod touch".
I think a lot of people felt that the first generation iPad was nothing more then a 10" iPod Touch and that Apple could have done a lot more with iPad v1 so they waited until iPad v2. I am one of those people. Things like HDMI and cameras for Facetime should have been on iPad v1. Now that they are on v2 people are a bit happier and willing to buy.
im one like you this version should have been ipad 1
im one like you this version should have been ipad 1
Hmm.. maybe the iPad 3 should be the iPad 1, or is it the iPad 4?? Do you actually realize how silly your statement is. You suggest 15 million people should not have bought the iPad 1 but instead (because it's your opinion) they ought to have waited until the actual iPad 1 (iPad 2) is available??
So true - analysts are totally pointless, like car alarms. It's the kind of job where you can be wrong over, and over, and over again. And you still get to keep your job.
But there is a fine line between making a tool simple *to use* and making a simple tool. You go far enough down the second path and you are manufacturing toys.
Apple Computer, Inc was totally admirable and an historic force for good. Apple Toy Co, Inc is encouraging people to swap their "bicycles for the mind" for toys.
And what criteria do you suggest we all use to determine whether Apple is offering us a "simple tool" or a "toy"? An answer of the form "The former has a keyboard" and "The latter has no keyboard" won't cut it.
All very interesting yet none of it changes the fact that the iPad is a big iPod touch.
That's not a bad thing.
It's actually good.
The fact Apple took a platform designed for touch and mobility and scaled it up rather than taking a platform designed for the desktop and kb/mouse and scaling it down is the main reason the iPad has been able to succeed as a tablet where previous attempts did not.
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I would have bought the original iPad. I want an iPad 2 but still cannot justify purchasing one as my Macbook is still in good health and does most of what I'd use the iPad for. For me the iPad will be a replacement of my Macbook so I may have to wait for the iPad 3. It certainly won't replace my iMac though. At least not with the current model.
This confirms what some people were saying during the iPad2 frenzy at the Boylston Apple Store last Friday.
A friend of mine also wants the iPad but she is happy with her iPhone4 right now. She is still saving money to buy either the MacBook Air or the original iPad. That was late last year. She has not seen the new iPad yet. They were too busy with a big event this April.
CGC
So it's pretentious to love computers, and see their potential?
I used to love Apple when they were about bicycles for the mind, now they are about tricycles for the mind.
Somewhere on the way to simplifying people's work tools they got sidetracked on to making toys. Simple things and toys are related concepts, so there was always a danger of that in their DNA. They always hype their sales now, but so what if you're no longer doing good in the world? Those numbers are then just a measure of your evil.
I thought maybe if your first comment was ignored, you might drop this dead ended line of thinking, but it seems you want an argument.
That bicycle metaphor is way out of date, and I think Jobs would certainly disown it today. There was no internet to speak of then; the personal computer was mostly a stand-alone amplifier of an individual's mind.
Now it is obvious to anyone not stuck in left-brain categories -- anyone with imagination, in other words -- that the internet, the network, is the computer, and our various access devices are ways of adding or extracting knowledge or media in and out of the network.
If you could relax and allow yourself to use an iPad around the house and out in the world for a while, you would find that it can add enormously to what you can learn in one day, or to what you can accomplish in the way of always-on-anywhere communications with the connected world.
It is like a portable power tool, and once you've gone cordless, you are amazed at how much quicker and more flexible you can be.
And those lot of people did not buy it because the main reason is that "... the original iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch"???
The iPad's a lightweight, portable, secure, limited functionality computing device with a curated application store and a screen that's big enough to be useful.
I think it's safe to say most people bought the iPad because it's "a big iPod touch".
I'm going to be getting the black one, but after seeing the white one in person tonight, it's actually not that bad looking at all.
My girl will be getting the white one and I'll be getting the black one, so we don't get them mixed up.
The white one is gorgeous. I just don't understand some people that claim TV never have white bezel. Huh? I watched movies on my white notebook with no problem whatsoever.
Simple things and toys are related concepts,.
You're so wrong. The ultimate goal in design is to make things as simple as possible. Simple doesn't mean "toy". It means "professional".
Thanks! I'm not desperate or anything, and I haven't put any big effort into trying to obtain one yet. There are plenty of stores that sell them in my area, and new stock is coming in, so I'll eventually be able to grab one with a little luck.
You won't need luck, just patience.
I think it's safe to say most people bought the iPad because it's "a big iPod touch".
But it's not.
Just like swimming pools aren't just big bathtubs. The size makes them inherently different. A lot of people don't get this.
But it's not.
Just like swimming pools aren't just big bathtubs. The size makes them inherently different. A lot of people don't get this.
Of course it is!
"No one will buy the iPad... it is just a big iPod touch."
One was so bold enough to say he will eat his Blackberry Phone(???) if his prediction did not come true. I have yet to see the proof that he kept his word.
Not only did the iPad found its own users, it was such a very fast acceptance of a product of Apple that the likes of Microsoft, and others have tried, but never succeeded. And, so, they thought Apple would suffer similar fate as their own failure.
15 million original iPad buyers proved them wrong.
If I were one of the Apple/Steve Jobs haters & detractors, pundits, pseudo techno-analysts who made such predictions before even testing the original iPad, and kept maintaining that their perspectives/delusions must be how other people -- I would be more cautious making such unfounded and bold predictions.
Instead, they still maintain their delusions without so much as providing any proof:
a lot of people did not buy "... the original iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch"???"
Transformative
Though I do not have any survey to show, i would not be too surprised if many iPad buyers never even knew or used the iPod touch. And, if they knew or heard about it, many might have considered that the iPod touch does not suit their purpose. The latter notion is supported that the type of activities and the duration spent for these activities are quite different between the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
Size matters. Any person who is perceptive and does some simple ruminations would come to a conclusion that a small Boeing Jumbo Jet is nothing but a big Cessna Jet, even if both are jets and are meant to transport people. Anyone who wants to debate this does not warrant any response.
That sensible people can find a more purposeful use of the iPad, and even can play a very key role in their profession is proven by my interactions with a few during the iPad2 launch on Friday. Last Sunday afternoon, I ended up not doing my work why at the Boylston Apple Store because I got into a productive discussion with a professional photographer. He has all these computers (a notebook, the original iPad) and external drives. He has at home servers and desktops to process his movies and photographs. He bought the original iPad for portability. On Sunday, he has his iPad and a MacBookPro because with the help of the local Apple staff, he was able finally to work on a proprietary Canon movie he took a few years back for a customer. He did not know how to transfer the proprietary video from his other Canon camera to iMovie, a problem that the staff at Apple was able to solve.
Yes, there was an "App for his need" that the Apple staff helped him find, and will be richer because he can now deliver the finished goods to his client.
He uses his original iPad not only on the move, but also to show his clients the finished product.
Why don't you just use the iPod touch? It is cheaper and even more portable, and the iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch, they say.
Try persuading a professional photographer, artist with that thinking. And let me know how well you will fare.
2011 is the Year of the Copycat
One can make a twist that this year would be indeed a year when there will be a banner of iPad-copycats, even among manufacturers who once tried but failed.
Remember the famous statement of Bill Gates regarding the original iPad? Now the company he founded, has been trying to come up with an iPad killer.
CGC
The iPad's a lightweight, portable, secure, limited functionality computing device with a curated application store and a screen that's big enough to be useful.
I think it's safe to say most people bought the iPad because it's "a big iPod touch".
I think a lot of people felt that the first generation iPad was nothing more then a 10" iPod Touch and that Apple could have done a lot more with iPad v1 so they waited until iPad v2. I am one of those people. Things like HDMI and cameras for Facetime should have been on iPad v1. Now that they are on v2 people are a bit happier and willing to buy.
im one like you this version should have been ipad 1
im one like you this version should have been ipad 1
Hmm.. maybe the iPad 3 should be the iPad 1, or is it the iPad 4?? Do you actually realize how silly your statement is. You suggest 15 million people should not have bought the iPad 1 but instead (because it's your opinion) they ought to have waited until the actual iPad 1 (iPad 2) is available??
Analysts are not to be believed.
So true - analysts are totally pointless, like car alarms. It's the kind of job where you can be wrong over, and over, and over again. And you still get to keep your job.
But there is a fine line between making a tool simple *to use* and making a simple tool. You go far enough down the second path and you are manufacturing toys.
Apple Computer, Inc was totally admirable and an historic force for good. Apple Toy Co, Inc is encouraging people to swap their "bicycles for the mind" for toys.
And what criteria do you suggest we all use to determine whether Apple is offering us a "simple tool" or a "toy"? An answer of the form "The former has a keyboard" and "The latter has no keyboard" won't cut it.
A more popular use for the iPad 2 is using apps and playing games, which 17 percent said they intend to do.
17% plan to use apps??? What the hell else are they going to do? Am I missing something here?
17% plan to use apps??? What the hell else are they going to do? Am I missing something here?
The other 87% use it as picture frame.
*clip* CGC
All very interesting yet none of it changes the fact that the iPad is a big iPod touch.
That's not a bad thing.
It's actually good.
The fact Apple took a platform designed for touch and mobility and scaled it up rather than taking a platform designed for the desktop and kb/mouse and scaling it down is the main reason the iPad has been able to succeed as a tablet where previous attempts did not.
... based on past track records, Apple must have sold one and a half million of these things on opening weekend!!
So analysts have just slightly underestimated.
All very interesting yet none of it changes the fact that the iPad is a big iPod touch.
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So he has written, so it shall be!
All hail Pharoah Firefly.
CGC
So he has written, so it shall be!
I'm glad to see you finally came around.