help me prove he is lying

ast3r3xast3r3x
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in General Discussion edited January 2014
got a friend...well i dont like him that much, so i got a peer and he has wrecked a car 2x as of 2day.



first time he was speeding 90 around a 35mph turn uphill in an BMW M5 and when he got to the top there was a horse and buggy and he had to swerve off the road and did approx. $10k worth of damage, and the horse and buggy just kept going without stopping like nothign happened.



as of 2day he was 'going 110' in his VW (GTI maybe?) and he tried to pass a horse and buggy uphill until he saw a car come over the hill and side swipped the horse and buggy and avoided death haha. Again, no cops were called although the peopel on the other side of the road where pissed and a biker he passed a bit back stopped and was yelling at him ('had a gun although he did'nt show it or pull it out'). said the horse and buggy had almost no damage so they guy didn't care. is there any way that this is tru, i dont belive it and i didn'tbelive the first one. i'm trying to prove to a friend of mine that this kid who has wrecked is lying!



the front, door, and back panels seemed to be scratched and the door panel was bent, but hitting a buggy at 110, wouldn't that cause more, and wouldn't it mes up the buggy, and wouldn't the pissed off people call the cops...somone use physics and help me haha i just need to prove it because i know he is lying and my friend doesnt belive me because "he wouldn't like about something like that"

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 15
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Doing the physics calculations would be extremely difficult without a myriad of details about the scene. You'd need the mass of the car, mass of the horse, mass of the buggy, speed of each, direction or each, acceleration of each, the kind of tread on the tires, how hot the tires were, the angle of the driving surface, the type of driving surface, etc...



    I actually had to do an elaborate physics problem like that last year, but as you can probably tell, it's a LOT of work.



    Anyhow, I'd say just let it go. If you really think he's lying, tell him so. Leave it at that. It's not like there's a way he can prove it to you, is there?



    [ 10-20-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
  • Reply 2 of 15
    jack's catjack's cat Posts: 4member
    Dude, a horse and buggy? Where the hell do you live, 19th century London?



    [ 10-21-2002: Message edited by: jack's cat ]</p>
  • Reply 3 of 15
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    it sez he is from PA...as in Pennsylvania....as in Amish country...lots of slow moving buggies there....g
  • Reply 4 of 15
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Who cares if he's lying. Why don't you tell your friend that he's a ****ing idiot, and that he's lucky his parents are complete pushovers.



    When he gets into a collision that results in serious injury, maybe he'll wise up. What a douchebag. When i drive fast I made damn well sure that I have no chance of injuring anyone. . . Go find some private or federal property to race on.
  • Reply 5 of 15
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    i think the point is that he didn't crash anything. at most he swerved to his a rabbit and ran into some brush.



    i think if you do the easy math, a 1 ton car going 80mph faster than a 200lb. buggy would be a huge mess. not to mention i don't think most buggys are build with crumple zones etc. for safety. kids a 'tard.
  • Reply 6 of 15
    ebbyebby Posts: 3,110member
    Wouldn't the horse be scared by a speeding car and act weird? If I owned a horse, I would worry about someone spooking a horse in control of the cart I am sitting in. I've ALWAYS slowed way down for horses I drive around. I don't want to spook them.
  • Reply 7 of 15
    rooroo Posts: 162member
    he's lying. if a car got close enough to a buggy to do any damage at all (at such speeds), the horse would have bolted. the buggy would have sustained much more damage than the car. and, i don't know about the amish, but if someone spooked my horse and damaged my buggy, i would have called the cops.



    oh, and jack's cat? mine *knew* horse and buggies are still used by the amish. sheesh.
  • Reply 8 of 15
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    I would think that a car hitting a buggy at 110 (was that mph?) would do serious damage to the buggy, horse, and/or occupants of said buggy.



    And tell your friend to slow the fvck down!!!
  • Reply 9 of 15
    burningwheelburningwheel Posts: 1,827member
    he's BSing. i've got a friend who has told tall tales his whole life, you'd think he'd grow out of it at his age but no... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
  • Reply 10 of 15
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    If it's an Amish horse, he could be telling the truth. Those things are ****ing tough. Took my friend and me like an hour with a couple of hammers to take one down.
  • Reply 11 of 15
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Looks like he came close, but still doesn't look like he hit the horse.







    Besides, it doesn't look like he's going anywhere NEAR 110 MPH.



    It actually looks like he's drunk too by the way he's swerving and crossing the double lines.



    Tsk tsk. Kids these days. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> No respect for the Amish.
  • Reply 12 of 15
    tmptmp Posts: 601member
    There's no way a 3000 lb car doing "over 100" is going to sideswipe something as relatively delicate as a buggy or as top-heavy as a horse without doing some damage to the horse and buggy. Like deadly damage.



    Your aquaintance (not your peer, unless you are a completely idiotic sociopath with no regard for the safety of others as well) should have his license to drive revoked if his story is is even remotely true.
  • Reply 13 of 15
    ebbyebby Posts: 3,110member
    [quote]Originally posted by murbot:

    <strong>If it's an Amish horse, he could be telling the truth. Those things are ****ing tough. Took my friend and me like an hour with a couple of hammers to take one down.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />



    Whoa! That's good!
  • Reply 14 of 15
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Yea...a lot of Amish started moving into our area (Southern Iowa) a few years ago...



    Even if you now have to watch out for 'horse drawn vehicles,' as the signs would lead you to believe, they make excellent dried goods.



  • Reply 15 of 15
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    I never got that about "horse-drawn vehicles".



    I thought they were all done on CAD stations these days... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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