What would your perfect death be like?

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  • Reply 21 of 24
    keyboardkeyboard Posts: 5member
    "Strangely enough his last wish is for water, which is refused. His last wish (and words) were denied"



    I wanted to comment on this. The "escort" who sits with the person while they are dying has probably done it dozens if not hundreds of times, and probably though experience has worked out things not to do... Giving a glass of water to a man who is about to slip into a deep drug induced coma might not be such a great idea. Literally seconds after requesting the water, he fell into unconsciousness. He would have dropped the glass, or the water would have gone down his windpipe, leading to fits of coughing etc. which could have been horrifying for his wife. Alternatively, he might have vomited up the water, which would have also meant vomiting up the drugs, and then he would be back where he started from. Therefore I think she probably did the right thing refusing the request for water.



    As for my death, If I needed to kill myself due to e.g., terminal illness or merely being sick of life, I'd prefer to use a handgun, unfortunately I live in a country where such devices are impossible to obtain by law-abiding citizens, so I guess I'd have to try and obtain appropriate drugs of some kind.
  • Reply 22 of 24
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,910member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    As for ignorance, a wise man once said that we all display a certain amount of it each time we speak, but those who choose not to speak, generally have much more of it to hide.



    I've heard it said this way:



    "It is better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought a fool, or open it and remove all doubt."
  • Reply 23 of 24
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,910member
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    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    Something that has a reproducible element for an enquirer. If you tell me you can talk, your evidence if I question it is to talk to me. If you tell me you can talk to God, your evidence has to be to be to allow me to perform the same or be able to observe you talking in a way that backs up your assertion, otherwise, there's an event taking place that requires a different definition.



    There are different categories of evidence of course and eyewitness testimony is admissible in court but it can't be verified by a 3rd party directly as the examination doesn't produce the same result.



    When it comes to ghosts, the assertion is that someone has seen one or photographed one suggesting they interact with the visible spectrum of light, which should be reproducible. They also take on a recognisable form, almost always the characteristics at the point of death. Yet there is no physical material to replicate the bodily movements of the muscles or bone structure. There is no reason why the material they are formed from only occasionally interacts with visible light and the vast majority of the time doesn't. There's no reason why such occurrences happen so infrequently and so many times to people who need to sell a magazine or want their 15 minutes of fame.



    Yeah, there are photographs that are circulated around such as the ones here:



    http://paranormal.about.com/od/ghost...-Ghost-Photos/



    and some have been verified by 'experts' just like the leaked Mac photos that come out every now and again are examined by 'Photoshop experts'. In none of the cases is there a way to reproduce what has been seen so they have to be fabrications or technical defects e.g fog on camera lenses, distortions caused by temperature, defects in the processing of old photographic film and so on.



    There is of course footage of ghostly activity, which is hard to pass up:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo8CP9Hhb58



    but almost all of it has no substance. The scientific community will overturn everything the second that reproducible, verifiable evidence is presented but it never has been. The legions of believers will go away muttering 'well, I still believe it anyway' and 'I know what I saw' but it won't persuade a lowering of evidentiary standards.



    I believe that is a very sensible answer.
  • Reply 24 of 24
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by keyboard View Post


    "Strangely enough his last wish is for water, which is refused. His last wish (and words) were denied"



    I wanted to comment on this. The "escort" who sits with the person while they are dying has probably done it dozens if not hundreds of times, and probably though experience has worked out things not to do... Giving a glass of water to a man who is about to slip into a deep drug induced coma might not be such a great idea. Literally seconds after requesting the water, he fell into unconsciousness. He would have dropped the glass, or the water would have gone down his windpipe, leading to fits of coughing etc. which could have been horrifying for his wife. Alternatively, he might have vomited up the water, which would have also meant vomiting up the drugs, and then he would be back where he started from. Therefore I think she probably did the right thing refusing the request for water.



    As for my death, If I needed to kill myself due to e.g., terminal illness or merely being sick of life, I'd prefer to use a handgun, unfortunately I live in a country where such devices are impossible to obtain by law-abiding citizens, so I guess I'd have to try and obtain appropriate drugs of some kind.



    Good point on the denial of water. Like I said, I don't dare yet to actually watch the video.



    As for gunshot suicide, as Marvin mentions there's probably a chance of botching it. You could end up paralysed, a vegetable or maybe just part of your face blown off. And yeah, not to mention the difficulty of obtaining such weapons in most orderly countries.



    As for drugs, it is interesting how much overdosing the body can handle. I'm no expert, just from what I've read here and there.
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