The BBC finally deals with "Pax Americana."

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
I've been crapping on about the noxious "Rebuilding America's Defenses" document for weeks; the BBC are reporting it <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2801349.stm"; target="_blank">here.</a>



Finally.



Believe me, I love the American constitution, and what the founding fathers founded.



But fcuk the 'Pax Americana.'

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 12
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Best quote:



    European accusations... are countered by American descriptions of Europeans as 'EU-nuchs' in general and of the French in particular as 'cheese-eating surrender monkeys'



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 2 of 12
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Man, are you a broken record!



    I happen to like a lot of those cheese-eating surrender monkies too. Even the ones from France. Yep, those cheese-eating surrender monkies seems like perfectly nice folk to me. I can't wait to oppress them!
  • Reply 3 of 12
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    ^ <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    Also, I have never heard either of those slams (EU-nuchs and cheese eating surrender monkeys) but I will try earnestly to use them when ever the chance arrises.



    Cheese eating surrender monkeys! Where did they come up with that? It's pretty harsh. :cool:
  • Reply 4 of 12
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    In a way I find his analysis lacking. There's only one mention of the UN and only then in a quote.



    Hasn't the UN been trying to disarm Iraq since the end of the war? Haven't those efforts been on a whole unsuccessful? Didn't the UN vote on "serious consequences" if Iraq didn't disarm this time? As a leading country in the world isn't the US obligated to be the leader for "serious consequences". Hasn't this all been going on long enough?



    All of his analysis is based on the US acting "whatever happens". But in the real world Iraq is not going to comply and disarm. So this "whatever happens" analysis is moot. Also he can't know the US reaction if say ... Saddam were to take a bullet today and next leader gave up the goods. Maybe he has a crystal ball?



    And what's so wrong about wanting to spread democracy to increase peace and reduce terrorism? "Root causes" people?
  • Reply 5 of 12
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott:

    <strong>In a way I find his analysis lacking. There's only one mention of the UN and only then in a quote.



    Hasn't the UN been trying to disarm Iraq since the end of the war? Haven't those efforts been on a whole unsuccessful? Didn't the UN vote on "serious consequences" if Iraq didn't disarm this time? As a leading country in the world isn't the US obligated to be the leader for "serious consequences". Hasn't this all been going on long enough?



    All of his analysis is based on the US acting "whatever happens". But in the real world Iraq is not going to comply and disarm. So this "whatever happens" analysis is moot. Also he can't know the US reaction if say ... Saddam were to take a bullet today and next leader gave up the goods. Maybe he has a crystal ball?



    And what's so wrong about wanting to spread democracy to increase peace and reduce terrorism? "Root causes" people?</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Perhaps the real terms to be used, rather than "spread Democracy" should be seen as "open up markets"

    which doesn't sound bad

    except that the record of the manner in which markets have been near forcibly opened through the usage of debt, stipulation, stipulated taxeless industrialization of local workforces, asset purchasing, and subsidized undercutting of local goods has not been a good sell for the idea of a Benign American Style Democracy

    unfortunately many nations have come to feel, not liberated by the real agenda of this phrase, but have come to feel themselves taken for every penny and exploited.
  • Reply 6 of 12
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Scott:



    The whole 1441 "serious consequences" thing will never be answered by these people. Save your finger energy.
  • Reply 7 of 12
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>^ <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

    Cheese eating surrender monkeys! Where did they come up with that? It's pretty harsh. :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's from a Simpsons episode. Read (scroll down a bit):

    <a href="http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/living/5233002.htm"; target="_blank">http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/living/5233002.htm</a>;
  • Reply 8 of 12
    [quote]Originally posted by pfflam:

    <strong>

    Perhaps the real terms to be used, rather than "spread Democracy" should be seen as "open up markets"

    which doesn't sound bad

    except that the record of the manner in which markets have been near forcibly opened through the usage of debt, stipulation, stipulated taxeless industrialization of local workforces, asset purchasing, and subsidized undercutting of local goods has not been a good sell for the idea of a Benign American Style Democracy

    unfortunately many nations have come to feel, not liberated by the real agenda of this phrase, but have come to feel themselves taken for every penny and exploited.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    Looks like people are getting a bit wiser to your Leftist Commie crap:



    ] <a href="http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/2003230/detail.html"; target="_blank">http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/2003230/detail.html</a>;
  • Reply 9 of 12
    BBC made a typo! I never thought I'd see the day. Consonsiderable...
  • Reply 10 of 12
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    [quote]Originally posted by zKillah:

    <strong>





    Looks like people are getting a bit wiser to your Leftist Commie crap:



    ] <a href="http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/2003230/detail.html"; target="_blank">http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/2003230/detail.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>;

    You are a parody . . . your posts are worthy of satire

    [quote]your Leftist Commie crap: <hr></blockquote>this would be hilarious if you didn't actually believe this shiite and actually talk this way . . . .
  • Reply 11 of 12
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    That was sort of out of left field wasn't it?
  • Reply 12 of 12
    [quote]Originally posted by pfflam:

    <strong>You are a parody . . . your posts are worthy of satire

    </strong><hr></blockquote>

    You mean like them leftist ?revolutionaries? with their posters of Che, who?s propaganda rhetoric you keep stealing?





    [quote]Originally posted by pfflam:

    <strong>this would be hilarious if you didn't actually believe this shiite and actually talk this way . . . .</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes, it's very sad. Unlike you, my sofisticate, I actually believe in the things I say.
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