The funny thing about that response is that it said nothing about how sales were going, only that they were pushing it out to more countries. I guess if you can't sell them in the countries they are in, try selling them somewhere else, right?
Yes, they actually didn't believe the iPhone was real. They thought Jobs was overstating it's abilities and battery life. They had so little imagination that it was like alien tech to them.
It is possible for another company to compete with Apple and the iPad. It would require a "skunkworks" type of division. With a talented design manager who would be in total control of the device and OS. You could probably hire someone from one of the more creative small gadget companies. You would want all new engineers - no one from the existing RIM would be involved. Oh and you would need lots of money and no interference.
Of course by the time you finished the project Apple would be so far ahead of you it wouldn't matter.
I certainly don't wish ill will on RIM, as I was a long time Blackberry owner, and happy for it...until their devices got slow and buggy.
You'll get no objection from me on this.
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Then, instead of innovating and recognizing seriously good competition in iPhone and iPad, they combined ignorance with arrogance (the 'amateur hour's over' marketing campaign in response to the huge success of iPad was a total "emperor's wearing no clothes" moment), which finally pushed me to iPhone when it became available on Verizon.
Now, let's not forget that Apple is no stranger to these kinds of marketing tactics. However, taking swipes at the kingpin and calling it an amateur was never at the core of Apple's marketing strategy.
But, then they compounded the problem by launching their 'shoot the messenger' service when confronted with tough questions at media events. That kind of lost them the final morsels of sympathy, as we have seen this movie before and no how it ends.
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Finally, tell me how a company that has made their name by penetrating big enterprises and carriers, falls so in love with consumers that they completely ignore their core market to the point of being even irrelevant there?
What do you expect RIM to say? Every CEO, including Jobs, dodges tough questions. As for going after the consumer market, that's where the money is. Apple's products are geared towards the consumer market but there are some enterprise-friendly features. However, Apple could do a whole lot more to make its phones as enterprise-friendly as RIM. But Apple is not about to throw away the fast-growing consumer market for enterprise. RIM has been the opposite: enterprise-friendly but some consumer-oriented features. Now, RIM is trying to become more consumer-oriented. RIM is trying to have the best of both worlds.
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Love or hate Apple, at least you know that they don't so fall in love with their position that they are afraid to cannibalize themselves before the competition does.
Even if one is not a BB fan, this is sad news. More jobs will be lost. A once dynamic and innovative company keeps sliding. I personally do not see any reason to rejoice over such news.
The store I used to work in has sold 3 of these since launch. Recently they started a deal where it is bundled with a choice of BB phone and they havent sold a single one.
For those wishing a comeback, just remember that corporate comebacks are as probable as winning a lottery. Outside of Apple and IBM, there are not too many examples unless the government props up a company. The Canadian government allowed Nortel to die and will do the same for RIM. Short the stock, baby!
You mean no one wants to watch Jennifer Lopez videos while watching a movie in the background at the same time? I never understood why Rim touted this.
There is an old saying that if you owe your bank a thousand dollars you are in trouble, but if you owe them a billion they are in trouble. Now we can add, if you owe them a trillion, the government is in trouble
We used to be able to trust the big banks with trillions in loans. Until they figured out a way to take the profits on those loans without assuming the risk. I wish we would have at least charged the big banks the maximum legal interest rate on the money we lent them. That's what would and does happen to the rest of us if we make terrible financial decisions.
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The funny thing about that response is that it said nothing about how sales were going, only that they were pushing it out to more countries. I guess if you can't sell them in the countries they are in, try selling them somewhere else, right?
http://www.edibleapple.com/why-rbc-a...-him-in-check/
Yes, they actually didn't believe the iPhone was real. They thought Jobs was overstating it's abilities and battery life. They had so little imagination that it was like alien tech to them.
It is possible for another company to compete with Apple and the iPad. It would require a "skunkworks" type of division. With a talented design manager who would be in total control of the device and OS. You could probably hire someone from one of the more creative small gadget companies. You would want all new engineers - no one from the existing RIM would be involved. Oh and you would need lots of money and no interference.
Of course by the time you finished the project Apple would be so far ahead of you it wouldn't matter.
Very insightful post. Seriously.
But it has Flash¡
It has FAIL
I certainly don't wish ill will on RIM, as I was a long time Blackberry owner, and happy for it...until their devices got slow and buggy.
You'll get no objection from me on this.
Then, instead of innovating and recognizing seriously good competition in iPhone and iPad, they combined ignorance with arrogance (the 'amateur hour's over' marketing campaign in response to the huge success of iPad was a total "emperor's wearing no clothes" moment), which finally pushed me to iPhone when it became available on Verizon.
Now, let's not forget that Apple is no stranger to these kinds of marketing tactics. However, taking swipes at the kingpin and calling it an amateur was never at the core of Apple's marketing strategy.
But, then they compounded the problem by launching their 'shoot the messenger' service when confronted with tough questions at media events. That kind of lost them the final morsels of sympathy, as we have seen this movie before and no how it ends.
Finally, tell me how a company that has made their name by penetrating big enterprises and carriers, falls so in love with consumers that they completely ignore their core market to the point of being even irrelevant there?
What do you expect RIM to say? Every CEO, including Jobs, dodges tough questions. As for going after the consumer market, that's where the money is. Apple's products are geared towards the consumer market but there are some enterprise-friendly features. However, Apple could do a whole lot more to make its phones as enterprise-friendly as RIM. But Apple is not about to throw away the fast-growing consumer market for enterprise. RIM has been the opposite: enterprise-friendly but some consumer-oriented features. Now, RIM is trying to become more consumer-oriented. RIM is trying to have the best of both worlds.
Love or hate Apple, at least you know that they don't so fall in love with their position that they are afraid to cannibalize themselves before the competition does.
I suppose.
Even if one is not a BB fan, this is sad news. More jobs will be lost. A once dynamic and innovative company keeps sliding. I personally do not see any reason to rejoice over such news.
Well said.
philip
The store I used to work in has sold 3 of these since launch. Recently they started a deal where it is bundled with a choice of BB phone and they havent sold a single one.
Totally misguided product.
But it has Flash¡
The playbook has a lot going for it, not sure why anyone wouldn't want more choice in the marketplace.
I like it's size and the cards metaphor - it also has a decent camera. Each to their own.
It's as cutting edge as
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Everybody on Mongo loves Flash!
Ceratinly is a bit of an evil ming around RIM
For those wishing a comeback, just remember that corporate comebacks are as probable as winning a lottery. Outside of Apple and IBM, there are not too many examples unless the government props up a company. The Canadian government allowed Nortel to die and will do the same for RIM. Short the stock, baby!
There is an old saying that if you owe your bank a thousand dollars you are in trouble, but if you owe them a billion they are in trouble. Now we can add, if you owe them a trillion, the government is in trouble
We used to be able to trust the big banks with trillions in loans. Until they figured out a way to take the profits on those loans without assuming the risk. I wish we would have at least charged the big banks the maximum legal interest rate on the money we lent them. That's what would and does happen to the rest of us if we make terrible financial decisions.
Of course "if wishes were horses...".