HP's Chairman using MacBook Air, may detail webOS plans next week

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in iPad edited January 2014
HP is expected to finally announce a future path for its webOS platform next week, on the heels of an embarrassing PR photo portraying chairman Ray Lane using a MacBook Air at home.



The photo, included in a report by Reuters profiling Lane a Silicon Valley veteran putting his reputation on the line to get the company "back on track," depicted HP's executive chairman fixated on the screen of a light thin laptop brandishing Apple's iconic illuminated logo.



The photo (below) was captioned "Ray Lane works on his computer at his home in Atherton, California November 11, 2011." The photo also depicts a second laptop that appears to be a generic PC.







Last year, Lane became chairman of HP as his friend Leo Apotheker was brought in replace Mark Hurd, who had been dismissed as chief executive. Lane approved Apotheker's decisions, including the $11 acquisition of software firm Autonomy and plans to spin off the company's PC group and kill its webOS hardware, including the TouchPad tablet that had just gone on sale.



After Apotheker's strategy was roundly recognized to be disastrous, Lane and the HP board scrambled to do some damage control, removing Apotheker as chief executive and then appointing board member Meg Whitman as his replacement, despite, as Reuters observed, "her lack of experience in enterprise computing."



The report didn't spell out the irony of Lane using a MacBook Air, particularly notable given that HP just released new MacBook Air-like models under its Envy brand. As executive chairman of HP, Lane would have little reason to be using Apple's products for any reason other than preferring to use them, as he has little role in shaping the actual products HP makes or critically examining those of competitor's.



Future of webOS



Meanwhile, a source within HP has noted to AppleInsider that the company is rumored to finally make a definitive comment on the future of webOS either on November 28 or December 1, although, the source notes, "I don't think anyone expects anything good."



While HP's new chief executive Whitman has rolled back Apotheker's idea of spinning off the Personal System Group that builds HP's PCs, the company hasn't provided any clear direction for the future prospects of webOS, the software platform HP acquired from Palm for $1.2 billion before Hurd was replaced by Apotheker.



A decision was expected to be announced at an all hands meeting in October never materialized.



Instead, at a subsequent public announcement HP's leadership affirmed its decision to retain the PSG but left the future of webOS up in the air. Whitman even announced that HP would be releasing tablets based on Windows 8, following the company's failed Slate PC last year running Windows 7.



At the same time, NPD just announced that HP's webOS tablet shipments outnumbered any alternative outside of Apple, making up 17 percent of the 1.2 million non-iPad tablets sold in the first ten months of 2011.



That could be seen as positive for webOS, or simply more proof that there is no real market for tablet devices outside of the iPad, just as there were very limited prospects for iPod-like music players outside of Apple's iPod lineup throughout the last decade.



A report by Venture Beat indicates that HP is trying to sell off its Palm assets while "demanding that potential buyers license webOS back to it on the cheap for use in printers."



Both Intel and Qualcomm are rumored to be interested in Palm's patent portfolio, while both Amazon and RIM have been thrown about in wild speculation suggesting that those hopeful tablet makers could somehow use webOS to turn around their own existing tablet platforms. Amazon's Fire is based on an old version of Android, while RIM has developed its own mobile environment on top of QNX.
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  • Reply 1 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member




    Haha. Can you blame the guy? Everybody wants to use the best.



    Microsoft ?I?m a PC? Ads Were Created Using a Mac



    http://gizmodo.com/5052790/microsoft...ed-using-a-mac



    Microsoft using Mac to promote the launch on Win 7 & Songsmith



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkFSMczA3I4



    Microsoft use Apple Macs on campus



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehEhN...eature=related



    Microsoft Employees Caught Using Mac, Safari & Firefox



    http://www.nealgrosskopf.com/tech/thread.php?pid=28



    Journalists Cover Microsoft, Using Macs







    Microsoft Mobius Event



    http://www.cultofmac.com/21741/journ...ft-using-macs/



    I could continue, but you get the idea.
  • Reply 2 of 67
    29922992 Posts: 202member
    it's called "marketing research"
  • Reply 3 of 67
    Uh, I think ya'll have a double post going on dis here boards.
  • Reply 4 of 67


    "Wow, I didn't know guys can get that big. HOW DOES SHE/HE/HESHE FIT IT IN?"
  • Reply 5 of 67
    Priceless.



    Now waiting for Microsoft to announce to this guy, "Windows has had the same features as OS X for over a year!"
  • Reply 6 of 67
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    The poor guy?s gonna knock it right off the table with the very next tap on the trackpad!
  • Reply 7 of 67
    I'll wager that his printer is not made by Apple.
  • Reply 8 of 67
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 2,368member
    $11 acquisition of Autonomy? Not terribly risky.
  • Reply 9 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post






    Haha. Can you blame the guy? Everybody wants to use the best.



    Microsoft ?I?m a PC? Ads Were Created Using a Mac



    http://gizmodo.com/5052790/microsoft...ed-using-a-mac



    Microsoft using Mac to promote the launch on Win 7 & Songsmith



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkFSMczA3I4



    Microsoft use Apple Macs on campus



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehEhN...eature=related



    Microsoft Employees Caught Using Mac, Safari & Firefox



    http://www.nealgrosskopf.com/tech/thread.php?pid=28



    Journalists Cover Microsoft, Using Macs







    Microsoft Mobius Event



    http://www.cultofmac.com/21741/journ...ft-using-macs/



    I could continue, but you get the idea.



    Slight difference, as those Macs can be running Windows.



    I don't think that MacBook Air is running HP though.
  • Reply 10 of 67
    Reminds me back when Ballmer and Gates forbid their kids from using iPods and forced them to use those crappy zunes. Wonder what they use now. Must suck if your parents force you to use junk tech while everyone else is using the good stuff.
  • Reply 11 of 67
    Not too different when Steve Jobs came back to Apple and was seen using a PC laptop.
  • Reply 12 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whytoi View Post


    Not too different when Steve Jobs came back to Apple and was seen using a PC laptop.



    You just devastated me. I'm going to slit my wrists now.
  • Reply 13 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mbarriault View Post


    Slight difference, as those Macs can be running Windows.



    You are absolutely correct, some of the Macs in the picture could be running Windows.. That's what great about Macs though, people can run whatever they want on it, while the same can not be said for PC's.
  • Reply 14 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cylack View Post


    Must suck if your parents force you to use junk tech while everyone else is using the good stuff.



    Yep, that's how the people who are getting Kindle Fire's for Christmas this year are going to feel.
  • Reply 15 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    You are absolutely correct, some of the Macs in the picture could be running Windows.. That's what great about Macs though, people can run whatever they want on it, while the same can not be said for PC's.



    This is why I sorta want a Mac. My school does this. Bootcamp is awesome.



    ONE QUESTION:



    Let's say there's a high end graphics card in the Mac, will it be compatible with windows? Just wondering in terms of games...
  • Reply 16 of 67
    aizmovaizmov Posts: 987member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whytoi View Post


    Not too different when Steve Jobs came back to Apple and was seen using a PC laptop.



    For the same reason Lane is using a MacBook. Apple's offerings at the time weren't the best in the industry.
  • Reply 17 of 67
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,481member
    In general, board members are product-agnostic and are frequently on the board of many companies at the same time. This is a non-issue.
  • Reply 18 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by linkgx1 View Post


    ONE QUESTION:



    Let's say there's a high end graphics card in the Mac, will it be compatible with windows? Just wondering in terms of games...



    I'm sure that somebody will be along to provide you with a better answer than I can, as Windows has been banned in my house, but I do know one thing:



    Certain games will actually run better under Windows on a Mac than under OS X, so yes, I'm pretty sure that the graphics card is compatible with Windows. That has to do with the specific game and how it was ported. A poor port of a Windows game will of course perform worse than the Windows version which has never been ported.
  • Reply 19 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    You are absolutely correct, some of the Macs in the picture could be running Windows.. That's what great about Macs though, people can run whatever they want on it, while the same can not be said for PC's.



    Amazing. Only a true fanboi could be defending the company that sold him/her a product with an average of 40% markup and then locked down the software so it can only be run on "authorized" chipsets.
  • Reply 20 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by realitycheck69 View Post


    Amazing. Only a true fanboi could be defending the company that sold him/her a product with an average of 40% markup and then locked down the software so it can only be run on "authorized" chipsets.



    There are ways around that of course (hackintosh), but I fully understand why Apple doesn't want their OS to be installed on other machines.



    Apple was practically bankrupt back in the days of the shitty Mac clones. No wonder Steve Jobs killed them off.



    And I am definitely a huge Mac fan, but I'm no fanboi, because I don't like that term. I have around 10 Macs in my house and I don't feel that any of them were overpriced.



    As a matter of fact, I started up one of my old Macs recently that I hadn't even turned on in many years, and it's still working as good as new. Unlike PC pieces of garbage, which are quickly obsolete and end up in dumpsters rather quickly, Macs hold their value and they still work.
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