Samsung attorney says Australian judge wrong in banning its iPad-like tablet

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in iPad edited January 2014
An attorney for Samsung argued Australian judge Annabelle Bennett was wrong in granting Apple a temporary injunction against the Galaxy Tab, saying the justice made a series of errors and failed to understand key elements of the case.



Samsung's attorney Neil Young stated at an appeal hearing that "there was either no arguable case for infringement or it was very weak," according to a report by Dow Jones.



Apple claims that Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 infringed upon 13 of the company's patents, claims that will be examined in full at a later date.



However, the judge overseeing the case preliminarily agreed, on the basis of just two of the patents, that Apple's case was strong enough to warrant a temporary sales ban until the full case was decided. She did not make a final ruling of infringement regarding any of the patent claims.







A final hearing has not yet been set, but the temporary injunction has blocked sales during the critical holiday sales season in Australia. Apple is also suing Samsung in California and in cases in a variety of other jurisdictions globally, with a separate injunction on sales being won in Germany.



It was in the US court that a judge held Samsung's Galaxy Tab and Apple's iPad in the air and challenged Samsung's attorneys to identify which one was made by Samsung, something the US attorney said she could not do from a ten foot distance.



Samsung's lawyer argued that justice Bennett did not imply in her findings that Apple's claims were strong enough to justify the injunction, but Apple's attorney Stephen Burley said his company's infringement case had a "sufficient likelihood of success," justifying the imposition of the ban.



Burley described the judge as having reviewed the infringement case in a detailed fashion, reportedly stating in court that "it was not a case of your honor ticking boxes" in arriving at the conclusion that sales of Samsung's tablet product be banned.



Even before the injunctions went into effect, consumers have largely ignored the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and other new 2011 tablet models running this spring's Android 3.0 Honeycomb software. One recent report by NPD noted that among all tablets sold in the US outside of the iPad, the best selling model was HP's now discontinued webOS-based TouchPad, which shipped fewer than a quarter million units.



This winter, Amazon's Kindle Fire is expected to rank as the most popular tablet outside of the iPad, but it runs a year old version of Android incompatible with tablet apps targeting Android 3.0 or the latest 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich," an issue Apple claims will only further fragment the overall Android platform.
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  • Reply 1 of 67
    Would it have made a difference in sales anyways?



    Samsung, here's a tip for you: Ban the Apple HDTV from all regions. It'll be a rectangle and have a remote.....you can do it! You can do it all night long!
  • Reply 2 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    .....Samsung's attorney Neil Young stated....





    A-pple, look at my Tab, mine's a lot like yours is.......
  • Reply 3 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dickprinter View Post


    A-pple, look at my Tab, mine's a lot like yours is.......



    He needs to be fired.
  • Reply 4 of 67
    So Neil Young is now an attorney for Samsung? I thought he was a musician!
  • Reply 5 of 67
    tylerk36tylerk36 Posts: 1,037member
    It's iterating how the battles are being fought in other countries and not here in the US. We hear more about Germany and Australia and so forth then we do here in the US. Imagine how much money is spent to fight this in Australia. I bet the Attorney's fees are staggering.



    Competition is good for the industry. I know that Apple thinks Samsung is copying their iPad but if Apple is doing so well why spend so much money to block them when Apple could just build a better iPad that Samsung can't even come close to before hand?
  • Reply 6 of 67
    cameronjcameronj Posts: 2,357member
    What a strange thing for a Samsung lawyer to say?!?
  • Reply 7 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tylerk36 View Post


    Competition is good for the industry. I know that Apple thinks Samsung is copying their iPad but if Apple is doing so well why spend so much money to block them when Apple could just build a better iPad that Samsung can't even come close to before hand?



    It's a matter of principle.



    If somebody cheated me out of money, I would spend at least double the amount that was taken to get revenge and satisfaction and justice for all, if that's what it took.
  • Reply 8 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    An attorney for Samsung argued Australian judge Annabelle Bennett was wrong in granting Apple a temporary injunction against the Galaxy Tab, saying the justice made a series of errors and failed to understand key elements of the case.



    As a lawyer who practices both plaintiff and defense work, if you are bitching that the judge didn't understand key elements, you did a shitty job.
  • Reply 9 of 67
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 4,399member
    At $600 per hour, of course that attorney will say anything to make his p.o.s. client look innocent, despite the facts to the contrary.
  • Reply 10 of 67
    I still am shocked that Apple managed to get a monopoly on a rounded minimalistic rectangle...



    more shocked that the design patent put forth wasn't even for the actual iPad -_-
  • Reply 11 of 67
    Saw my first Galaxy Tab in the wild today. You really need to know what to look for to tell it isn't an iPad. It made me think significantly less of the person using it...



    Who can actually sell something like that and sleep at night...
  • Reply 12 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aaarrrgggh View Post


    Saw my first Galaxy Tab in the wild today. You really need to know what to look for to tell it isn't an iPad. It made me think significantly less of the person using it...



    Who can actually sell something like that and sleep at night...



    oh grow up.
  • Reply 13 of 67
    gustavgustav Posts: 823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    oh grow up.



    Explain.
  • Reply 14 of 67
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 2,432member
    Au contraire, it is Samsung's attorney who is wrong, and I didn't have to be paid to say so.
  • Reply 15 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    I still am shocked that Apple managed to get a monopoly on a rounded minimalistic rectangle...



    more shocked that the design patent put forth wasn't even for the actual iPad -_-



    Keep f***ing that chicken.
  • Reply 16 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gustav View Post


    Explain.



    Puberty.
  • Reply 17 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gustav View Post


    Explain.



    really?



    "made me think significantly less of the person using it."



    self explanatory.
  • Reply 18 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Doctor David View Post


    Keep f***ing that chicken.



    Of the 1 billion things Samesung obviously ripped off from Apple a rounded rectangle is the last thing I'd expect an injunction to be based upon.



    Then again I realize this is Australia and the injunction may have been based on a different matter.
  • Reply 19 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    Of the 1 billion things Samesung obviously ripped off from Apple a rounded rectangle is the last thing I'd expect an injunction to be based upon.



    Then again I realize this is Australia and the injunction may have been based on a different matter.



    That chicken is now dead. You killed it.
  • Reply 20 of 67
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by oneof52 View Post


    As a lawyer who practices both plaintiff and defense work, if you are bitching that the judge didn't understand key elements, you did a shitty job.



    ^^^ this.
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