Purchase current G4 or wait till MWNY 2002?
OK, I live in Canada, so the prices i talk about are all canadian. I can get a 933 G4 now w/o superdrive for $3173 from the apple store.
OR
wait till MWNY 2002 & then purchase a higher model or same as above for a reduced price.
I currently use a B & W G3 400 Mhz, 256 Ram, 6 G hd & 40 G hd.
what do you all think??????
thankz
i also plan to sell the radeon 7500 in the above & put in a Radeon 8500.
OR
wait till MWNY 2002 & then purchase a higher model or same as above for a reduced price.
I currently use a B & W G3 400 Mhz, 256 Ram, 6 G hd & 40 G hd.
what do you all think??????
thankz
i also plan to sell the radeon 7500 in the above & put in a Radeon 8500.
Comments
It also depends on what applications you use. If you use apps that take advantage of the g4, then your performance increase will be far greater than if you use apps that are not optimized.
if we do see G5 in the next several month, is it time to jump on the bandwagon of the 1st generation G5 machine?
The answer is no, since the new machine somehow might have flaws, for example, the first generation PowerBook G4 had the slower than iBook firewire and not to mention the errata of the 1st generation PowerPC G4 microprocessors.
and IF there's only the speed bump G4 we might see, why not going for the current cheaper machine by the time? Since the GeForce4 MX works pretty well for the Doom-like games in 1024x768/32 bit mode and the PowerPC G4/800/933/twin 1000 MHz is at least 5 times powerful than PowerPC G3/400 microprocessor.
The PPC 7455 has just been released in february, even if it's a minor revision of the G4 line,who is ready to bet that there will be a new revision of the G4 four months after. Considering that a the 7455 does not support DDR memory, i doubt that we will se a new mobo, by new mobo i mean a mobo with DDR ram.
I a m sorry to said that but we will not see any big improvement until MWSF. Just expect for MWNY a small speedbump of the chip and perharps some minor change in the mobo, like inside bluetooth or ATA 100-133.
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I do not NEED a need 'puter, i want one! I have had this B & W G3 for 3 years. Its still got alot of live left & i intend to keep it. Its just that i would like to have a speedy mac with all the extra goodies to play with! I like gadgits & the new G4s have more of them for me to play with. besides i can afford it, life is short & i like to upgrade about every 2-3 years.
I figure 1 Ghz, 1.2 Ghz & 1.4 Ghz
I hesitated to buy a dual IGHz very recently, and I finally decided to wait until MWNY, but not more. There are 2 reasons why :
1- I hate the GeF4 MX card in the dual, and I don't have any choice with the educational program at my school. It appears there are some minor (?) problems with the video card and I wont spend several thousands dollars on a machine with a crippled video card. Just look at the Apple forums about this.
2- I want to have OS X version 10.2 on my new machine. IMO, the actual version isn't finished yet, at least not to my taste (wathever what others are saying). Of course, I may upgrade 10.1 -> 10.2 when it comes out, but this is just another argument to me.
I'm not in a hurry and I still can use my old MacIIci at home and the iMac at work. So I'm waiting. But like I said, I wont wait any longer than august.
leaving my PowerCenterPro 210Mhz to do the small things.(stable old box)
looking to change the GeForce4MX card for a ATI 8500
hoping to get both my 21CTRs to there full 1920 X 1440 (what's the best ADC to VGA or ADC to EVC adapter)
Back'n the days of the first 8100/80, I told a good friend (after reading about the future of MP systems in MacUser ) I'd love to get a computer with 2 CPUs, and instead of 80MHz imagine 1000MHz
TODAY i have my dream box
Now that my first dream box is here in my house. To start dreaming of a future computer would be more like...
?Quad G5se 2GHz 128MB Xs- buffer (perCPU)
Optic CPU aRk and Gigawire2
June 2008?
it's good to dream of the future hardware
it's great to be able to buy it when it finally arrives
If i buy a New G4, i want to know that i can get the games i want on the mac. so far so good.
Return to castle wolfenstien
Max Payne
Metal of Honor
UT 2002
Unreal 2
Deus Ex 2
Doom 3
Halo
Duke Nukem 4ever
MWNY, at a *minimum* will introduce one higher clocked model of the 7455 we have now - say a 1.2 GHz model. That means the 1GHz becomes the middle, 933 the low end. I just happened to get a chance to tinker around with a stock 933 and it was fast as hell. Much faster than I thought it would be. Blew my 500 out of the water where Finder responsiveness, app launching and the all-around performance were concerned.
What I'm saying here is, IF you don't need the new computer now for something work-related, wait. Because it is *highly* likely that at the very least, you will be able to get this excellent 933 machine for around $1700, maybe less depending on how you configure it.
It is less likely but still a probability in my mind that we will see a new version of the G4 (the .13µ process shrink everyone has been anticipating) - let's call it the 7470 since that's what The Register, in its infinite lack of wisdom, thinks it will be called. This chip will likely start off ~ 1.2 GHz and will likely be priced similarly to the 7455. Whether this new chip would use a souped up "MPX+" mobo running at 166Mhz and use the corresponding 333MHz DDR RAM, I have no idea. That eventuality in and of itself is probably less likely than the 7470. So maybe we'll see new chips on the same mobo, but that seems borderline illogical unless they integrate a new 3MB cache instead of 2MB. They have to address the bottleneck somewhere if they introduce faster chips.
Less likely still, but still not a long-shot IMO, is the arrival of the G5, which I'll call the 7500. IF this chip is released, it is almost *guaranteed* to utilize a 500MHz RIO-based mobo, and an on-die DDR memory controller because this is the type of architecture MOT has designed around the G5 in general. Also guaranteed would be speeds of 1, 1.25 and perhaps 1.5 GHz. (The RIO-based archictecture can use half-multiples where bus speed is concerned; each CPU iteration doesn't have to go by steps of 500MHz - they can jump by 250 MHz at a time).
Long story short, you'd be crazy not to wait so long as the need is just personal and not work-related. Even the worst case scenario would get you the same 933 machine from today for less money. And honestly, if that's all the more option you have, it would still be a good investment. The 933 is an excellent machine, especially when priced below 2K.
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And by then (MWNY), we could expect OS X 10.2 to be out with the new machines.
So my decision is final, I'll wait.
i think i will wait. This old B & W G3 still has some life left in it.
It's for that reason that *something* will likely be done with the UMA come the next revision. If not a total re-design using RIO on the Northbridge side, HT on the Southbridge side (or something similarly radical)...then perhaps a boost to the existing MPX-based architecure, moving it to 166 or 200 MHz, and then employing 166 MHz SDRAM or PC1600 DDR respectively (think I got those paired up right). Either way, it would be *really* dumb for Apple to slap even faster processors on the same UMA design because we won't be able to see the true benefits of the improved processor.
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