Samsung accuses Apple of infringing on three patents

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Samsung on Tuesday moved forward with arguments in its case against Apple, going on the offensive by alleging the iPhone maker infringed on three patents regarding the usability of multi-feature portable devices like smartphones.

Harvard professor and patent specialist Woodward Yang, was called to the stand as Samsung's fourth witness, gave testimony regarding three patents owned by the South Korean company covering photos, email attachments and playing music in the background.

According to in-court reports from CNET, Yang claims to have spent some 300 to 400 hours researching Apple devices for trial purposes, alleging certain models of the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch infringe on Samsung's patents.

During his testimony, Yang demoed a photo emailing patent by showing Apple's iDevices sending pictures taken of an orange. According to the witness, the invention was designed with feature phones in mind, doing away with the hassle of connecting the device to a computer to offload photos. It is unclear if the patent covers Apple's integrated photo sharing options.

In another photo-related patent claim, Samsung asserted a photo album patent where a user can bookmark a specific photo for later viewing. Yang demoed the allegedly infringed feature on the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 2 and fourth-generation iPod touch, all of which presented the same image when bringing up a photo roll in an app other than Apple's default Photos.

Finally, Samsung asserted a patent which describes a software solution for music to be played in the background behind other open apps. Yang notes the idea for the claim was to find a way to keep music playing when switching through apps, while keeping device size down by not introducing decoding hardware.

In cross-examination, Apple lawyer Bill Lee went on the offensive, referencing a page from Samsung's side-by-side comparison of the iPhone and what would would become the Galaxy S, saying the Korean company studied Apple's implementation of email attachments.

"In your 400 hours of work, you have not found one iota of evidence that Apple knew about the '893 patent, or copied the '893 patent," Lee said in reference to the photo album feature. Yang said the assertion was true.

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Source: Apple v. Samsung court documents


The Apple lawyer noted that none of the patent inventors testified in Samsung's defense, nor does the company use any of the asserted properties in its smartphones. Lee asked Yang how Apple could have copied the features if they weren't present on Samsung devices.

Yang was the third Samsung witness to take the stand on Tuesday, following Adam Bogue and Clifton Forlines, both of whom were involved with Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories' DiamondTouch table.
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Now Samsung is copying Apple's lawsuit against them! Is there no limit to what they'll do?

  • Reply 2 of 30


    They are bringing out the fun factor thats all

  • Reply 3 of 30


    This is rather comical on Samsung's part. It's like the whiny kid in school who constantly cries out "ME TOO!!! ME TOO!!!"


     


    Samsung is getting desperate.

  • Reply 4 of 30
    jawportajawporta Posts: 140member


    Am I really suppose to care about a bunch or rich people fighting over more money. 

  • Reply 5 of 30
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,179member


    Wait, Samsung wants us to believe Apple copied the idea of emailing a photo, bookmarking a photo, and playing music in the background... from Samsung? Is this for real? I mean.. no words. 


     


    The hypocrisy of Samsung accusing Apple of patenting 'rounded rectangles', insinuating that they patent broad concepts, while Apple has supplied extremely numerous and detailed examples of infringement, and then bringing up shit like the concept of playing music in the background and emailing a photo? What a joke. 

  • Reply 6 of 30
    845032845032 Posts: 76member





     


     


     


     





    By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?

  • Reply 7 of 30
    chuychuy Posts: 4member


    I cant remember the source, but I believe Apple has an agreement or something with him since the beginning, The link here shows that David Pouge Asked him and he replied (I know the iPhone) but never stated the existence of some sort of agreement, but was not angry either.


     


    As we know Apple usually keeps this things silent. Some times apple say (no licensing) but we see proof they offer it. 

  • Reply 8 of 30
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,158member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Now Samsung is copying Apple's lawsuit against them! Is there no limit to what they'll do?



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  • Reply 9 of 30
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by 845032 View Post


    By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?



     


    Do those videos have anything to do with the article at hand?

  • Reply 10 of 30
    leesmithleesmith Posts: 119member

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    By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?



    That doesn't look like a "portable multifunction device with a touch screen display" - which is what Apple's patent is for.

  • Reply 11 of 30


    I have to just insert this in here, but according to late breaking ABC news, Bill Gates has fixated on a consumer product Apple has totally overlooked. Gates is gonna "clean up" by re-inventing the toilet! Now, I'm not making this up! Most of the prototypes are on display this week in the open courtyard of the Seattle headquarters -- I have no idea why he doesn't have them inside.


     


    One of the design goals is that the new toilets need to be able to operate for only a nickel... "Imagine it," Bill exclaimed to Melinda, "A gawd-dammed nickel every time someone squats!"


     


    Considered a perfect companion to the "Surface," the new "Hole" will give the consumer a place to sit while trying to figure out their new Fisher-Price computer. There was no mention of whether a family plan may be offered. An Apple spokesman had "no comment" on the news of the new "Hole," but did lose his composure and broke down in fits of laughter before managing to hang up.


     


    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/toilet-technology-150-years-waste-17005287#.UCrcO66U9tU

  • Reply 12 of 30
    leesmithleesmith Posts: 119member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post


    I have to just insert this in here, but according to late breaking ABC news, Bill Gates has fixated on a consumer product Apple has totally overlooked. Gates is gonna "clean up" by re-inventing the toilet! Now, I'm not making this up! Most of the prototypes are on display this week in the open courtyard of the Seattle headquarters -- I have no idea why he doesn't have them inside.


     


    One of the design goals is that the new toilets need to be able to operate for only a nickel... "Imagine it," Bill exclaimed to Melinda, "A gawd-dammed nickel every time someone squats!"


     


    Considered a perfect companion to the "Surface," the new "Hole" will give the consumer a place to sit while trying to figure out their new Fisher-Price computer. There was no mention of whether a family plan may be offered. An Apple spokesman had "no comment" on the news of the new "Hole," but did lose his composure and broke down in fits of laughter before managing to hang up.


     


    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/toilet-technology-150-years-waste-17005287#.UCrcO66U9tU



    Actually that's a big deal. In lesser developed countries, the waste gets into the water supply and leads to disease and illness. Kudos to Bill and Melinda Gates.

  • Reply 13 of 30
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


     


    Why the heck aren't more places creative with their titles anymore?


     


    Unless the story is about someone's death or a tragic event somewhere, I want every news article title to be a pun from now on.

  • Reply 14 of 30
    I love how they call it the "i-Phone".
  • Reply 15 of 30
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member


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  • Reply 16 of 30


    OMG, Apple is doomed. Playing music in the background? That must have taken some serious R&D to figure that one out.


    I guess when people said "Apple better watch out because Samsung is a patent powehouse" they weren't kidding.

  • Reply 17 of 30
    Oh, one more thing. Did they need a Harvard professor to explain background music or e-mailing a photo?
  • Reply 18 of 30
    hjbhjb Posts: 278member

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    By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?



    The irony is that Jeff Han is also from Korea.  Apple is battling with a Korean company in a Korean Judge court with a technology developed by Korean.  


     


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Han

  • Reply 19 of 30


    The funny thing to me about Sammy's claim is that they only name certain iOS devices and not others....yet the issue they are claiming infringes has to do with the software that runs on the devices and not the hardware. Am I missing something? Does not the 4S which is not named, run the same OS as the 4 which is named? Do not the iPad 1 and 3 run the same OS as the iPad2? Seems if they are going to make this claim that all iDevices should be included since they all run the same OS......One more thing that seems bogus about Sammy in general.

  • Reply 20 of 30
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by hjb View Post

    The irony is that Jeff Han is also from Korea.  Apple is battling with a Korean company in a Korean Judge court with a technology developed by Korean.  


     


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Han



     


    Koh is an American judge of Korean descent. Just as I am an American of Swiss-Irish descent. I consider myself neither Swiss nor Irish.

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