Photos on CD - not being recognized by mac
I am in the middle of switching and I have a bunch of photos on CD. Used Adeptec easy CD creator using the drop and drag function and closed each cd to be read by most cd players, as instructed. When I put it in my mac it isn't recognized, hence I can't see any pics. Any ideas??. I've tried a couple different CD's and tried them on the imac and powerbook. Help!!thx!
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[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: BuonRotto ]</p>
Are you running some flavour of OS X, or still in OS 9?
In what way exactly are they not recognized?
Do they at least mount to your desktop, or do your cd-drives just sit there doing nothing?
I think that there shouldn't be any problems at all, since macintosh has always done their best to provide inter-os compatibility.
When these picture CD's are put in I can hear the drive spinning for about a minute, then it stops and ....nothing.
Do you happen to know in what format you burned them?
Also, are you sure it's not a media defect? (e.g. can you still mount them on PC)
Last I heard Windoz writes photo CDs in "ISO 9660 + Joliet".
Unless someone knows different, Apple never has been able to read Joliet.
There is usually a Windoz option to override the format to be standard ISO 9660.
It was obvious in the past that some Drug store photo places used Windoz to make their Photo CDs because they could only make Joliet disks and it bugged me to death. Most chains have since changed to standard ISO 9660.
[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: MrBillData ]</p>
<a href="http://www.tempel.org/joliet/" target="_blank">http://www.tempel.org/joliet/</a>
They have the following in their FAQ:
Apple is supposedly working on their own implementation for that. I have not tried it out myself yet, but others told me that it works somehow, although not perfectly.
[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: MrBillData ]</p>
Also, Matsu, I really don't think your comment is correct here: Apple has always done their best to support as many disk formats as possible. Mac users have always been able to read much more disks than Windows users.
They are CD-R, no idea what you mean by ISO 9660.
I do have classic installed and I will try that this weekend.
They still work on my PC.
If I can't figure this out, would Move2Mac be an option if I loaded them back on to the PC? How does Move2Mac work regarding viruses on my PC, anybody have any perspective or experience? Do PC virus' only effect PC and not Mac? Thanks for the help
<strong>If I can't figure this out, would Move2Mac be an option if I loaded them back on to the PC? How does Move2Mac work regarding viruses on my PC, anybody have any perspective or experience? Do PC virus' only effect PC and not Mac? Thanks for the help</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm not an expert on viruses, but I suppose that they will always be executables (i.e. PROGRAMS in layman's terms). As PC & MAC programs are NOT (in no way, except through ingenious emulation - e.g. Virtual PC) interchangable, I believe that this is not possible. Unless of course some smart Alec started making lowest common denominator viruses in Java. But that's probably not possible either.
Some people at AppleInsider like to assert the fact that there are NO viruses for OS X. I wouldn't make that claim, but I do think that you will not easily run across one.
Also: the CD situation: it is, to say the least, highly irregular. There is one specific program in Classic that actually 'hijacks' the cd-drive to copy cd's. It is called Astarte CD-Copy (but might be hard to find). I presume that you could ultimately resort to that app if problems persist.
You could as around for it.
However, have you thought about networking your PC to your Mac? Assuming your PC has an Ethernet port, you can simply use a cheap Ethernet Crossover cable to connect the two systems and copy over all your image files. I have no idea as to the specifics of networking a Mac and a PC, but I know it's easily possible. Somebody here should know.
Escher
[ 12-06-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
<strong>Wouldn't you be able to avoid this scenario under VPC?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I imagine that you could. However, VPC costs US$200 while a crossover Ethernet cable should run you no more than US$10. Networking a Mac and a PC should require no additional software and be fairly easy. IMO, $190 is a lot of money to save.
Escher
direct cd which uses udf volumes. I know the fealling, i had 4gigs of mp3 on those cd's. Anyways see as nobody
in here knows what there talking about and are wasting your time just go to <a href="http://www.roxio.com/en/support/roxio_support/toast/toast_software_updatesv4.jhtml" target="_blank">Roxio's site for the OS9 extension</a>
to read those cd's. Get the extension plop it in your extensions folder in your os9 extensions folder and wamo. Thats it....
Ohh and restrt too...hehe
[ 12-07-2002: Message edited by: dmgeist ]</p>
I wouldn't be surprised if Move2Mac helped in this regard too though I (obviously) haven't had reason to check it out.
<strong>Ok I went through the same thing. If I'm correct you used
direct cd which uses udf volumes. I know the fealling, i had 4gigs of mp3 on those cd's. Anyways see as nobody
in here knows what there talking about and are wasting your time just go to <a href="http://www.roxio.com/en/support/roxio_support/toast/toast_software_updatesv4.jhtml" target="_blank">Roxio's site for the OS9 extension</a>
to read those cd's. Get the extension plop it in your extensions folder in your os9 extensions folder and wamo. Thats it....
Ohh and restrt too...hehe
[ 12-07-2002: Message edited by: dmgeist ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well of course you'll have a problem if you have a CD with UDF. UDF was developed for DVD disks.
You can also put Premium gas in a Lawn mower.
Both are foolish things to do. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Here is what I have found:
The OFFENDING cds are usually created using the "create photo cd" option of Easy CD Creator on a wintel box. If you take one of these unreadble cds and copy all of the files on it to a new cd and burn a "data cd" using Easy CD Creator you should be able to read the cd on your mac. Of course, this means you have to have a wintel box around to perform the copy.
The problem does not appear to be related to the UDF extension (OS 9). If you create your cds on a wintel pc using the "data cd" option things seem to be just fine. My uneducated guess is that when you use the "photo cd" option on a pc, it is burning a cd that creates an "auto launch" program on the cd which makes the cd unreadable on a mac.
Posts and questions sent to ROXIO have been largely ignored. I ask that all Mac users whine about these unreadable cds at the Roxio site and on the Apple forums. I still have AppleCare for one of my Macs and I am going to do some whining on the phone. If I get any usefull info back I will post on this thread.
make sure we're clear on the distinctions <a href="http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-2" target="_blank">here</a>
make sure you have the superdrive patch (if appropriate) and/or firmware updates
sacrifice a chicken
if you're convinced they're coasters and have given up all hope, try the same trick that seems to solve certain non-readable (newfangled rip-protection) music CD's... draw a stripe from center to edge on the bottom surface using a felt marker
if you've got the latest toast, drop the cd in while toast is running... it should allow you to do a get disc info where the finder spins ball
full homer headslap is due if its an RW disc and your struggling mac ain't RW, merely CDR or CD-ROM... dead horse, baby
not enough info to troubleshoot much further.
post a system profiler screenshot of your drive info with devices tabs open if you can. toast disc info too if it allows.
I have a handfull of these offending, wintel, easy cd creator photo cds and you can't read them on a mac. If you force toast to look at them, it does show the file space used on the cd, but you still can't read the damn things. I have tried on:
Mac Cube with a CD/DVD reader,(OS9 and OSX);
Mac G3 tower with Sony CD-RW drive (OS9);
Mac Cube with external APS CD-RW drive (OS9 and OSX).
So far the only solution seems to be to duplicate them on a wintel box as I described in my previous post.
It is pretty frustrating and I hate to explain to a wintel user that I can't read their dang cds on a mac.
The chicken sacrifice doesn't seem to help, maybe Apple could release a version of babelfish?