Consumer Reports: 'Purple haze' not limited to iPhone 5, Android cameras also have flare

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in iPhone edited January 2014
Consumer Reports on Wednesday declared that Apple's iPhone 5 is no more susceptible to lens flare than other smartphone-based cameras, including the latest devices running Google Android.

In response to reports about a so-called "purple haze" effect when taking photos with the iPhone 5 camera in bright light, the consumer advocacy group did a number of tests with smartphone cameras. Their results found that the iPhone 5 did display a "haze" when photos were taken in bright light, but the issue was no more pronounced with Apple's latest handset than with other devices.

Comparable issues with smartphone cameras were found with the iPhone 4S, the Samsung Galaxy S III, and the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx. All of the devices were tested under the same conditions in Consumer Reports' labs.

Their tests found that the haze captured by smartphone cameras was sometimes purple, while other times it was a different color. In some tests, the flare formed on images as a rainbow of colors.

Purple Flare

Purple flare around sun. | Source: weaksauce12 via Twitter


"All camera lenses, even those made for expensive SLRs, can yield lens flare, which is produced by scattered reflections inside the lens from a bright light source," Consumer Reports said. "How much flare appears in an image depends on how you orient the lens."

While the organization acknowledged the problem "can be annoying," they also said it's not likely to be something that will affect most photos. Users are also advised to minimize its presence by using their hand to shield their phone's camera lens from sunlight.

Days after the iPhone 5 was released, the so-called "purple haze" issue was noted by users online. While some speculated it could be related to a defect with the phone, further investigation revealed the problem is common with many modern digital cameras, especially miniaturized devices.

Over the weekend, Apple posted a support document on its website addressing the camera flare controversy. It noted that most small cameras, including those in every generation of iPhone, could exhibit some form of flare at the edges of the frame when capturing images with out-of-scene light sources.
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  • Reply 1 of 83
    Hopefully we can put this ignorance to an end once and for all. This goes to both Android and iOS users.
  • Reply 2 of 83
    irelandireland Posts: 17,092member


    So are we supposed to be for or against CR, then?


     


    LOL

  • Reply 3 of 83

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    So are we supposed to be for or against CR, then?


     


    LOL





    Frenemy

  • Reply 4 of 83
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    ireland wrote: »
    So are we supposed to be for or against CR, then?

    LOL

    Easy. I'm for CR when they actually do a reasonable test and reach a scientifically supportable conclusion.

    I'm against CR when they editorialize and make pronouncements based on nothing but unfounded opinions.

    So what part of that don't you understand?
  • Reply 5 of 83
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    This is weird. CR is behaving strange lately.
  • Reply 6 of 83


    THE END



    - Another 'Applegate' production

  • Reply 7 of 83


    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

    Easy. I'm for CR when they actually do a reasonable test and reach a scientifically supportable conclusion.

    I'm against CR when they editorialize and make pronouncements based on nothing but unfounded opinions.

    So what part of that don't you understand?


     


    Many trolls people consider that to be "holding a double standard", and that we must perpetually be 100% for or against the actions that an individual or company takes. At least, that's my attempt at an explanation. Do you think that jives with what we hear? image

  • Reply 8 of 83
    r00fusr00fus Posts: 245member

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    This is weird. CR is behaving strange lately.


     


    No they are maximizing their "earned marketing" by staying relevant. [1] 


     


    Sometimes, their findings and ratings are at odds with their recommendations... like the "antennagate" controversy - highest rated phone - no recommend - huh?


     


    I bought a highly CR-recommended fridge and it's had more problems in one year than my old house's 10-year old clunker ... and it's noisy.


     


    Sometimes they're in sync and make complete sense (plenty of other stuff they recommended and I bought are doing fine - like my 7 year old Dyson vacuum).


     


    [1] http://www.quora.com/Marketing/What-is-Earned-Marketing

  • Reply 9 of 83
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,069member
    Stop taking picture into the light. This is what happen when you let people who have no clue about how to take pictures use a cheap camera and expect perfection.

    The fact that people are complaining about this show how many clueless people are allow to buy things which they do not know how to use.

    If you do not what this kind of problem go buy a $1000 SLA with some good lens and 3 ccd and take a photo class or two any maybe the purple haze can be a photo shop exercise.
  • Reply 10 of 83
    
    
    
    matrix07 wrote: »
    This is weird. CR is behaving strange lately.

    So you saw this too! Does this mean that It's not just me having some hallucinations?
  • Reply 11 of 83
    Yes, lens flare happens with camera's (hell the latest Star Trek film in 2009 used this effect a lot), but it is more apparent with the ip5 over similar spec'd Android phones. And it seems to catch only the upper end of the UV spectrum/lower end of the visible, which to me looks more and more like the digital sensor. The ip4 series and the Galaxy S3, which share the same or similar sensor, don't produce anything like I have seen with the 5.

    Between hazegate, scuffgate, mapgate and glitchgate, heads should be rolling at Apple. If Steve were still alive, you can be damn sure they would be.
  • Reply 12 of 83
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,069member

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    Originally Posted by r00fus View Post


     


    No they are maximizing their "earned marketing" by staying relevant. [1] 


     


    Sometimes, their findings and ratings are at odds with their recommendations... like the "antennagate" controversy - highest rated phone - no recommend - huh?


     


    I bought a highly CR-recommended fridge and it's had more problems in one year than my old house's 10-year old clunker ... and it's noisy.


     


    Sometimes they're in sync and make complete sense (plenty of other stuff they recommended and I bought are doing fine - like my 7 year old Dyson vacuum).


     


    [1] http://www.quora.com/Marketing/What-is-Earned-Marketing



    I not sure about that one either, Dyson product show up on Woot all the time more than any other single product and they are all refurbish, you have to ask yourself why Dyson likes dumping so many of their vacuum on woot and other places all the time. You might have gotten on the one of the good one.

  • Reply 13 of 83
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,501member

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by matrix07 View Post



    This is weird. CR is behaving strange lately.




    So you saw this too! Does this mean that It's not just me having some hallucinations?


    Not necessarily. CR could be behaving strangely AND you are hallucinating.

  • Reply 14 of 83
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,383member


    They only complain when it's an Apple product because Apple users demand the highest quality and when it happens on a Windows or Android phone, they EXPECT it to not work well.




    Either way, if you get flare in the camera lens, it's probably due to an inexperienced photographer that doesn't know where to have the light source.  You should have the light source (sun or bright lights) BEHIND the photographer NOT the subject, UNLESS you have a proper filter or know what you're doing.


     


    Maybe they should give users of mobile devices with a camera the do's and don'ts of taking a decent photograph.

  • Reply 15 of 83
    lilgto64lilgto64 Posts: 1,147member


    Purple Haze also shows up whenever I play Jimi Hendrix tunes. 


     
  • Reply 16 of 83

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drblank View Post


    They only complain when it's an Apple product because Apple users demand the highest quality and when it happens on a Windows or Android phone, they EXPECT it to not work well.




    Either way, if you get flare in the camera lens, it's probably due to an inexperienced photographer that doesn't know where to have the light source.  You should have the light source (sun or bright lights) BEHIND the photographer NOT the subject, UNLESS you have a proper filter or know what you're doing.


     


    Maybe they should give users of mobile devices with a camera the do's and don'ts of taking a decent photograph.



     


     


    two wrongs make a right - apple -  Perhaps that's why  Android / Windows phones don't cost as much.

  • Reply 17 of 83
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,069member


    Not to Rant on CR, but face it they trash products base on the surveys they send out to people to ask them about the problems they had with the product. We all know human behavior will cause people to complain more about something they hate or had problems with verse telling people how much they love something or never had a problem with. There is an old saying when some had a bad experience they tell 11 people, when they have a good experience they tell 3. CR usually is one of the 11 being told someone had a problem.


     


    For get their opinions, I use to read their reports all the time and had products they rate poor or bad based on people expeirence and I never had those so called problems and talked to and knew lots of who had the same problem and they too never had the issue the CR claims exist with the product. All things fail, and just because someone complained it failed does not mean it a poor product.


     


    Case an point if CR was really doing real testing they would have found this issue a long time ago which happens with cheap camera and explained to people you get what you paid for.They would have shown people the difference of a SLA camera verse a point and shoot. People use to know back in the day the cheap-o point and shots never took very good pictures, today people thing a camera in a phone should work like and SLA that cost $1000's.

  • Reply 18 of 83
    xuselppa wrote: »
    Yes, lens flare happens with camera's (hell the latest Star Trek film in 2009 used this effect a lot), but it is more apparent with the ip5 over similar spec'd Android phones. And it seems to catch only the upper end of the UV spectrum/lower end of the visible, which to me looks more and more like the digital sensor. The ip4 series and the Galaxy S3, which share the same or similar sensor, don't produce anything like I have seen with the 5.
    Between hazegate, scuffgate, mapgate and glitchgate, heads should be rolling at Apple. If Steve were still alive, you can be damn sure they would be.

    please ad a sarcasm sign (e.g. /s). There are actually people visiting this site, who believe this nonsens. Can you believe that?
  • Reply 19 of 83
    Consumer Reports always gets it right. That's why they're so well respected and deserving of so many articles at AI.
  • Reply 20 of 83
    lilgto64 wrote: »
    Purple Haze also shows up whenever I play Jimi Hendrix tunes. 
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    Yeah sometimes when the weed and the music is just right.....
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