Free Trial needed. Sounds fantastic but without even a limited demo, no way am I shelling out $80 on marketing faith.
The program is way beyond you if you cannot read English. Go to one of the responsible people in your household and have them read the last paragraph to you V-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y...
I'ver tried other systems attempting this but they all basically sucked.
For me I'm interested simply from the technical view point. Having said that, I'm, struggling to see a need for this for normal users.
This is not really for consumers but for large businesses that want to run legacy custom company-specific Windows based software on their large iPad base.
With the new A7 in the horizon for the iPad, this program rungs faster then a Surface Pro running Windows 8 (which is not yet supported in a vast number of enterprise users). The IT department can stick with XP or Win7 and still plow ahead using their old MS Office programs (screw Microsoft Office subscriptions) and get the added value of having the iPad run all that legacy custom software someone wrote for Windows computers back when XP was fresh in the world.
At $80 per year, this is less expensive than re-writing old programs that are not touch aware and getting access to their old Office programs and documents with out paying an even higher annual subscription to Steve Bozo's Clown Posse company.
If this works as advertised (and having used Parallels for several years, I've no reason to believe that it won't) it will be a final nail in the MS Surface's coffin...plus another push into full-on Enterprise use.
OK, I guess I am too lazy to just Google this right now, but following Macky's advice I read it slowly again and see that the iPad app and the Mac Client are free. There is a free trial for 14 days on the Mac (and 90 days for Windows, WTF?), but I need to shell out $80 a year for a registered Client.
Does this mean that I can still have some crippled functionality as an unregistered client, or will I be completely locked out?
The app seems interesting if it works as promised. Of course, with the amount of times I need to access my Mac via the iPad, Ignition works just fine. A one-time payment of $14 was all I had to do.
I may be not thinking far enough, but if I want to edit documents, I already have the Pages app. If I want to edit quick pics, I have iPhoto and PS Express. If I need to transfer files or start Transmission on my Mac, I have Ignition. So far I do not have a need to natively run Mac apps on my iPad.
But I guess it does make sense in the business environment. Imagine if I could develop web applications on my iPad using Visual Studio via this app!
Without getting into the subscription cost and just talking about functionality, here's my assessment (by the way, there's a free 14 day demo which how I'm trying it out).
It's pretty awesome.
I was using Splashtop before and while it was pretty good (and still is if you want a FULL desktop experience, such as when I troubleshoot my Mom's computer remotely) this definitely blows it away for actual app usage. It appears to run in 1024x768 and doesn't seem to use retina graphics on iPad which I'm guessing is to keep the speeds good (which they are) and I don't see any way to change that. Not a deal-breaker for me but it could be for some.
Actually navigating apps, using them, and switching between them is utterly amazing. I was doing all of this over an LTE connection on my iPad 4 and it was incredibly smooth. Over wifi it was of course even better. They totally nailed the problem that I have with most remote apps for iPad when it comes to selection and precise mouse requirements. I was actually able to edit a photo in Lightroom 4 and use all of the sliders without making a mistake. Not that I would ever want to do this most likely, but the fact that I could was impressive.
My Mac's screen mirrored what I was doing on the iPad though there is also an option to lock the computer when being used remotely and after disconnection if you want. As a very important attention to detail, when you quit the App, all of your windows go back to their original sizes. This is where Splashtop fails, as if I'm not working in native resolution then all my windows are resized to the lower resolution when I get back to my computer.
I wish the cost were a little lower, but I'm seriously considering it. It's very good.
I've been using WinAdmin as a remote Windows desktop which works pretty good for me and it was only $8 one time fee. So $80 per year is just insane if you only need to access Windows remotely.
some apps actually work pretty well considering. Kind of what Timbuktu was doing, kinda sorta, but this is a little different. There are some apps that won't work well. I already tried a game and no dice, but i used word, while playing iTunes and using other apps as well. Again, you need to have a fast connection. It's not as good as using a native app, but i can see this as quite useful. It does give a little taste of using OS X on an iPad, kinda sorta.
If this works as advertised (and having used Parallels for several years, I've no reason to believe that it won't) it will be a final nail in the MS Surface's coffin...plus another push into full-on Enterprise use.
Agreed, IT should love this.
MS Surface needs another nail? Flowers for the funeral maybe ...
Apple should buy this company. Imagine if Microsoft bought it just to kill the product before it kills them.
Funny I was just I was wondering if VMWare might replicate this idea, I assume they would be in a good position to do so, and thus ensure such technology remains available just incase of your doomsday scenario.
It's doubly cruel for MS to see Windows accessed in a VM on a Mac ... now they just need to add WINE to Parallels for Mac, to enable Office to run without Windows 8
This seems not to be a Windows emulator but just a remote access - one of many available on App Store
Correct, you need Windows in a VM on your Mac. Think how useful this is to IT and how iPad sales will grow because of this and how it will kill of the need for a Surface, only justified because of Office. MS Office is one of the last remaining hurdles to throwing MS out of many corporations and thus requiring them to hang on to PCs and consider Surface tablets.
... It may be one of many, but readers comments above indicate it is far better than all previous attempts to do this. You don't even need a PC involved and as i just mentioned if they could throw a WINE wrapper for Office into the package you can kiss needing Windows in a VM good by although that is not advantageous to Parallels I guess...
Why cant the just sell an access server component for the paranoid and technically advanced users? NSA / Google etc does not make me want to use this even if i needed it.
This might have overcome the biggest problems that other vnc setups have:
-native resolution of conmputer (Whaat i cant have the desktop in my native ipad resolution instead of the the computers resolution?) -static screen (disable zooming)
LogMeIn Pro is $70 per year for one computer, so $80 per year seems about right. $80 is nothing to a business user who can write it off as an expense anyway.
LogMeIn Pro is $70 per year for one computer, so $80 per year seems about right. $80 is nothing to a business user who can write it off as an expense anyway.
Kind of a joke to think that way. Anything you can write off as an expense, you have to make as profit in the first place.
That either means raising prices to adjust for added expense, which means everyone pays these types of corporate taxes indirectly, or it means ultimately less in the pockets of the business owner, which means less money to spend, invest elsewhere, incl. the quality of the products offered by that business to its customers.
Business don't "just make money" that they can "simply write off", if that were so, everyone would own a company the size of Apple, because we'd just keep making money, and whatever the cost of doing business is, we'd just write off, since money doesn't matter and profits just keep flowing...
Not exactly the universe we live in, if I may point out. In a business, every penny counts, just as for "regular" people. The only businesses that don't care about expenses too much, are those that make money (big banks) or who have their customers by the balls (desperation based business models)
MS Office is one of the last remaining hurdles to throwing MS out of many corporations and thus requiring them to hang on to PCs and consider Surface tablets.
Office is not so much of an issue as iWork can already handle almost all of those documents. The real hurdle is Active Directory. You'll have a very difficult time logging into the network especially through a VPN and trying to navigate around to various mapped drives. Expect a lot of failed connections on your Mac. As long as IT is using these MS servers and tools they will be Windows specific for many tasks.
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Originally Posted by rcfa
My machines have public IPs so I don't need some connection service that jeopardizes data security; and with IPv6 there is no excuse left for NAT, either.
I hope you at least have a firewall in front of those public IPs.
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Originally Posted by pmz
Free Trial needed. Sounds fantastic but without even a limited demo, no way am I shelling out $80 on marketing faith.
The program is way beyond you if you cannot read English. Go to one of the responsible people in your household and have them read the last paragraph to you V-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y...
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
This I gotta see....
I'ver tried other systems attempting this but they all basically sucked.
For me I'm interested simply from the technical view point. Having said that, I'm, struggling to see a need for this for normal users.
This is not really for consumers but for large businesses that want to run legacy custom company-specific Windows based software on their large iPad base.
With the new A7 in the horizon for the iPad, this program rungs faster then a Surface Pro running Windows 8 (which is not yet supported in a vast number of enterprise users). The IT department can stick with XP or Win7 and still plow ahead using their old MS Office programs (screw Microsoft Office subscriptions) and get the added value of having the iPad run all that legacy custom software someone wrote for Windows computers back when XP was fresh in the world.
At $80 per year, this is less expensive than re-writing old programs that are not touch aware and getting access to their old Office programs and documents with out paying an even higher annual subscription to Steve Bozo's Clown Posse company.
OK, I guess I am too lazy to just Google this right now, but following Macky's advice I read it slowly again and see that the iPad app and the Mac Client are free. There is a free trial for 14 days on the Mac (and 90 days for Windows, WTF?), but I need to shell out $80 a year for a registered Client.
Does this mean that I can still have some crippled functionality as an unregistered client, or will I be completely locked out?
The app seems interesting if it works as promised. Of course, with the amount of times I need to access my Mac via the iPad, Ignition works just fine. A one-time payment of $14 was all I had to do.
I may be not thinking far enough, but if I want to edit documents, I already have the Pages app. If I want to edit quick pics, I have iPhoto and PS Express. If I need to transfer files or start Transmission on my Mac, I have Ignition. So far I do not have a need to natively run Mac apps on my iPad.
But I guess it does make sense in the business environment. Imagine if I could develop web applications on my iPad using Visual Studio via this app!
It's pretty awesome.
I was using Splashtop before and while it was pretty good (and still is if you want a FULL desktop experience, such as when I troubleshoot my Mom's computer remotely) this definitely blows it away for actual app usage. It appears to run in 1024x768 and doesn't seem to use retina graphics on iPad which I'm guessing is to keep the speeds good (which they are) and I don't see any way to change that. Not a deal-breaker for me but it could be for some.
Actually navigating apps, using them, and switching between them is utterly amazing. I was doing all of this over an LTE connection on my iPad 4 and it was incredibly smooth. Over wifi it was of course even better. They totally nailed the problem that I have with most remote apps for iPad when it comes to selection and precise mouse requirements. I was actually able to edit a photo in Lightroom 4 and use all of the sliders without making a mistake. Not that I would ever want to do this most likely, but the fact that I could was impressive.
My Mac's screen mirrored what I was doing on the iPad though there is also an option to lock the computer when being used remotely and after disconnection if you want. As a very important attention to detail, when you quit the App, all of your windows go back to their original sizes. This is where Splashtop fails, as if I'm not working in native resolution then all my windows are resized to the lower resolution when I get back to my computer.
I wish the cost were a little lower, but I'm seriously considering it. It's very good.
Apple should buy this company. Imagine if Microsoft bought it just to kill the product before it kills them.
So $80 per year is just insane if you only need to access Windows remotely.
This seems not to be a Windows emulator but just a remote access - one of many available on App Store
Agreed, IT should love this.
MS Surface needs another nail? Flowers for the funeral maybe ...
Funny I was just I was wondering if VMWare might replicate this idea, I assume they would be in a good position to do so, and thus ensure such technology remains available just incase of your doomsday scenario.
It's doubly cruel for MS to see Windows accessed in a VM on a Mac ... now they just need to add WINE to Parallels for Mac, to enable Office to run without Windows 8
Correct, you need Windows in a VM on your Mac. Think how useful this is to IT and how iPad sales will grow because of this and how it will kill of the need for a Surface, only justified because of Office. MS Office is one of the last remaining hurdles to throwing MS out of many corporations and thus requiring them to hang on to PCs and consider Surface tablets.
... It may be one of many, but readers comments above indicate it is far better than all previous attempts to do this. You don't even need a PC involved and as i just mentioned if they could throw a WINE wrapper for Office into the package you can kiss needing Windows in a VM good by although that is not advantageous to Parallels I guess...
Aimed at corporations not the public I guess. I bet they will offer a discount for group licensing agreements.
I love that I can access my mac from anywhere with my phone.
Not as smooth as logmein, but it works!
This might have overcome the biggest problems that other vnc setups have:
-native resolution of conmputer (Whaat i cant have the desktop in my native ipad resolution instead of the the computers resolution?)
-static screen (disable zooming)
LogMeIn Pro is $70 per year for one computer, so $80 per year seems about right. $80 is nothing to a business user who can write it off as an expense anyway.
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Originally Posted by boriscleto
LogMeIn Pro is $70 per year for one computer, so $80 per year seems about right. $80 is nothing to a business user who can write it off as an expense anyway.
Kind of a joke to think that way. Anything you can write off as an expense, you have to make as profit in the first place.
That either means raising prices to adjust for added expense, which means everyone pays these types of corporate taxes indirectly, or it means ultimately less in the pockets of the business owner, which means less money to spend, invest elsewhere, incl. the quality of the products offered by that business to its customers.
Business don't "just make money" that they can "simply write off", if that were so, everyone would own a company the size of Apple, because we'd just keep making money, and whatever the cost of doing business is, we'd just write off, since money doesn't matter and profits just keep flowing...
Not exactly the universe we live in, if I may point out. In a business, every penny counts, just as for "regular" people. The only businesses that don't care about expenses too much, are those that make money (big banks) or who have their customers by the balls (desperation based business models)
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
MS Office is one of the last remaining hurdles to throwing MS out of many corporations and thus requiring them to hang on to PCs and consider Surface tablets.
Office is not so much of an issue as iWork can already handle almost all of those documents. The real hurdle is Active Directory. You'll have a very difficult time logging into the network especially through a VPN and trying to navigate around to various mapped drives. Expect a lot of failed connections on your Mac. As long as IT is using these MS servers and tools they will be Windows specific for many tasks.
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Originally Posted by rcfa
My machines have public IPs so I don't need some connection service that jeopardizes data security; and with IPv6 there is no excuse left for NAT, either.
I hope you at least have a firewall in front of those public IPs.