Jurors credit CPA witness for Apple's $290M victory in Samsung patent retrial

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Apple's expert witness on damages, a certified public accountant from Chicago, was the person who sealed the iPhone maker's victory in its patent infringement retrial against rival Samsung, according to members of the eight-person jury.

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Comparison of Apple and Samsung devices. | Source: Apple v. Samsung court documents


Jury forewoman Colleen Allen spoke with Bloomberg after the trial concluded on Thursday, and revealed that it was CPA Julie L. Davis who provided the strongest evidence to justify a $290 million payout to Apple from Samsung. Allen called Davis a "superstar witness," saying she was "on it" and steady when cross examined.

Allen's thoughts were echoed by fellow juror Barry Goldman-Hall, who said that it was Davis who helped determine exactly how much money Apple should be awarded.

A major point of contention for the jury was a sum of $178 million that Samsung felt should be subtracted from profits of more than $230 million attributable to the South Korean company's infringing products. Allen felt none of the money should come out, but other jurors disagreed, and the group compromised by cutting the sum in half.Damages expert Julie L. Davis was a "superstar witness" who helped Apple win $290 million from Samsung, according to the jury forewoman.

After two days of deliberation, the jury decided to award Apple $290 million in damages from Samsung, in return for its copying of patented software and hardware. The decision is viewed as a major win for Apple, which was seeking to collect up to $380 million in the retrial. Samsung felt it owed just $53 million.

To date, Apple has won more than $900 million in damages from Samsung over the infringement of five patents related to the iPhone and iPad. Key evidence from Apple showed how Samsung's smartphone and tablet designs changed radically to mimic Apple after the launch of the first iPhone in 2007 and the iPad in 2010.

Though the jury's decision has been made, legal squabbles between Samsung and Apple are far from over, with the two companies set to appear before Judge Lucy Koh once again in March. At that hearing, the two sides will argue over accusations of patent infringement in newer smartphone models, including the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S III.

Samsung has also unsurprisingly vowed to appeal the $290 million decision made this week. A spokeswoman for the company told Bloomberg that Samsung plans to "continue to innovate" as it moves forward with the appeal process.
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  • Reply 1 of 66
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    When you can't innovate in product you innovate in court.
  • Reply 2 of 66
    Continues to innovate like the 80K units selling Galaxy Gear "smart" watch.
  • Reply 3 of 66
    addicted44 wrote: »
    Continues to innovate like the 80K units selling Galaxy Gear "smart" watch.

    800k.
  • Reply 4 of 66
    ireland wrote: »
    When you can't innovate in product you innovate in court.
    When you can't innovate in your R&D lab, you innovate by copying.

    Fixed it for ya.
  • Reply 5 of 66
    Gotta feel sorry for Colleen Allen as the jury foreperson. I don't think she has a clue what's coming her way. Losers/trolls/shills everywhere are going to dig into her personal life for anything they can find to paint her as biased. Just like they did with Koh and Hogan before and with anyone else who rules in Apple's favor.
  • Reply 6 of 66
    800k.
    Shipped
  • Reply 7 of 66

    Samsung innovate?  That's a joke!  Samsung and "innovate" don't belong together.  There is a chasm between the two which could only be filled by words/phrases like "failed to" and "doesn't," etc...

  • Reply 8 of 66

    I hope Dyson wins big against Samsung. 

  • Reply 9 of 66
    focherfocher Posts: 687member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post





    800k.

     

    That explains why I see them everywhere. Oh, wait. Nevermind. Maybe it's that Samsung is full of shit.  Unfortunately, no one is going to sue them for copying when they created that piece of crap so we won't have a chance to get the real sales numbers like we need for their tablets...when it was revealed that hardly anyone really was buying them, and those that were returned them quickly because they were crap.

  • Reply 10 of 66
    ummm, even with 900m in damages, isn't this just a "cost of doing business" for Samsung? There profits from copied tech over these years probably dwarf this? If anyone has numbers, chime in.
  • Reply 11 of 66
    Funny I thought I just heard samsung and innovative in the same sentence? The trial was because there so called "innovative" designs where copied from Apple and samsung sucks lost. So they going to do a dumb ass move and copy Apple again? Innovative from samsung sucks. I'm sorry I have to laugh.????????????
  • Reply 12 of 66
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    Originally Posted by msalganik View Post



    ummm, even with 900m in damages, isn't this just a "cost of doing business" for Samsung? There profits from copied tech over these years probably dwarf this? If anyone has numbers, chime in.

    Yup, it is.

     

    The big trial will be the 2014 one, which is about current products (although they won't be as current anymore).

  • Reply 13 of 66

    Florian Mueller from Foss patents gave these Samsung statements regarding the verdict a nice touch 

    Quote:


     ... Maybe Samsung will again be able to reverse-engineer a jury verdict.


  • Reply 14 of 66
    peteopeteo Posts: 402member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post





    800k.

    80K sold, 800k Shipped. Any one can ship a crappy product. It's another thing to get people to buy it. We'll soon see this craptastic product in bargain bins. Maybe free with a Samsung Tablet?

  • Reply 15 of 66
    Uh-oh. I expect Samsung to file a motion for mistrial over this revelation by the jurors. /s
  • Reply 16 of 66
    Gotta feel sorry for Colleen Allen as the jury foreperson. I don't think she has a clue what's coming her way. Losers/trolls/shills everywhere are going to dig into her personal life for anything they can find to paint her as biased. Just like they did with Koh and Hogan before and with anyone else who rules in Apple's favor.

    Imagine the horror if she's caught owning any Apple products. An iPod? Mistrial!
  • Reply 17 of 66
    boltsfan17 wrote: »
    I hope Dyson wins big against Samsung. 

    If I owned a company that SamScum copied their Gear from, I'd be embarrassed to sue for such ugly, useless product.
  • Reply 18 of 66
    focher wrote: »
    That explains why I see them everywhere. Oh, wait. Nevermind. Maybe it's that Samsung is full of shit.  Unfortunately, no one is going to sue them for copying when they created that piece of crap so we won't have a chance to get the real sales numbers like we need for their tablets...when it was revealed that hardly anyone really was buying them, and those that were returned them quickly because they were crap.

    If I owned a company that SamScum copied their Gear from, I'd be embarrassed to sue for such ugly, useless product.
  • Reply 19 of 66

    I'm glad Apple won. I will not buy anything Samsung! (I know, there are Samsung parts in Apple stuff!)

     

    I hope Dyson wins, too! :)

  • Reply 20 of 66
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peteo View Post

     

    80K sold, 800k Shipped. Any one can ship a crappy product. It's another thing to get people to buy it. We'll soon see this craptastic product in bargain bins. Maybe free with a Samsung Tablet?


    Maybe the Irish will buy them?

     

    OK, that was mean! Sorry.

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