Apple widens lead over Android in worldwide ad impression share, now twice as large

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  • Reply 41 of 60
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    philboogie wrote: »
    Good point. Perhaps they don't need to create the whole set (with the panel) but 'just' expand on the current AppleTV box. But in my view the current 'shit experience' isn't limited to the technical side of it, it's also the way these channels work. I'd rather have a 'smart Vimeo' kind of setup: great content, on demand, with some sort of Siri / Spotlight / Smart folders integration.

    Apple would need to either replace the set top box or perfect the 'cable card'. I would love nothing more to see Apple disrupt the industry but the realist in me believes it's not going to be a easy accomplishment.
  • Reply 42 of 60
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post



    once again suggesting higher Web engagement from iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users



    I guess the cheaper devices running Android are given to kids to play offline games. Which kinda makes sense, as apparently some people don't want to hand over their iOS device to a kid since there is no multi-user support.

    Having two children ages 2 and almost 6 I can say that I have never had an issue with that or even cared about it. But, I have became quite good at changing screens on iPod touches. I just put the 4th screen on a 4th gen this week. We try to keep the protective covers on, but when the little kids get them off - the drops take a toll. Still, $25 is way less than the $400 the 64GB cost.

  • Reply 43 of 60
    Having two children ages 2 and almost 6 I can say that I have never had an issue with that or even cared about it. But, I have became quite good at changing screens on iPod touches. I just put the 4th screen on a 4th gen this week. We try to keep the protective covers on, but when the little kids get them off - the drops take a toll. Still, $25 is way less than the $400 the 64GB cost.

    I agree. Software wise there real isn't any need for multi her support if you want it to hand it over to your child. Just put on the restrictions. Hardware protection is certainly needed as children don't know the value of materials/money.

    $400 huh? That's on contract! I paid $1222 for mine - off contract. I think in the end I'll better off.
  • Reply 44 of 60
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Apple would need to either replace the set top box or perfect the 'cable card'. I would love nothing more to see Apple disrupt the industry but the realist in me believes it's not going to be a easy accomplishment.

    Indeed. And Apple does seem to be a bit 'narrow-viewed' in many regards. Not truly making things global. iCal got week numbers in 10.8; that was 2012 for crying out loud. I certainly hope they understand there are things like subtitles and audio synchronisation into other languages.
  • Reply 45 of 60
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    I agree. Software wise there real isn't any need for multi her support if you want it to hand it over to your child. Just put on the restrictions. Hardware protection is certainly needed as children don't know the value of materials/money.



    $400 huh? That's on contract! I paid $1222 for mine - off contract. I think in the end I'll better off.

    64GB iPods are $400.

    no contract, duh?

    anyone who pays 1200+ contract for an iPod has issues....

  • Reply 46 of 60
    anyone who pays 1200+ contract for an iPod has issues....

    Oops. Me and my iPhone-mind....
  • Reply 47 of 60
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    Oops. Me and my iPhone-mind....

    is cool, iThought that was it...

    but yeah, my 5 year old went through quite a few screens on the original iPod touch we had, and now the 4th gen has seen its share.

    BTW- We get the 64GB because of no cell data. As many movies and kid shows they watch on their iPods and iPad minis the extra storage is necessary, otherwise they would eat lots of data. In the rare event that they need data, we can hotspot iPhones for them.

  • Reply 48 of 60
    Anything that has the android OS in it is counted as a tablet that is why the Android count is so high. Even animated digital picture frames that use Android are counted but never go on the internet.

    Lower end devices sold at Toys R Us for $49 are Android powered and are genuinely only kids' toys BUT they are Android powered so they get counted in the mix too.

    Android powered feature phones that are not really smartphones and don't usually access the internet are also in that count.

    on the other hand ALL iPads and iPhones are used as intended - for accessing the internet - and they are used in place of a computer in most homes now. Even the iPad Touch can and its users do access the internet.

    Add all Apple mobile products together and subtract out all the Android bottom of the barrel stuff and that leading marketshare that is reported for android devices of iOS shrinks considerably and perhaps disappears. Add Apple's great ease of use and it is no wonder that Apple devices access the internet more.
  • Reply 49 of 60
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    ...with the iPhone Apple entered into a small smartphone market,..

     

    Wrong.

     

    Symbian was classified as a smartphone OS under the accepted definition at the time.

     

    Nokia and others were selling tens of millions of Symbian based handsets.

  • Reply 50 of 60
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    I agree. Software wise there real isn't any need for multi her support if you want it to hand it over to your child. Just put on the restrictions. Hardware protection is certainly needed as children don't know the value of materials/money.



    $400 huh? That's on contract! I paid $1222 for mine - off contract. I think in the end I'll better off.

     

    You paid $1222 for an iPod Touch?

     

    Edit:-

     

    Just saw your earlier response but will leave this extra bit of egg on your face here anyway.

     

    <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

  • Reply 51 of 60
    If I were an advertiser I would choose potential customers
    by their willingness to overspend as a way to enhance
    their self esteem, too.
  • Reply 52 of 60
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by larry9 View Post



    If I were an advertiser I would choose potential customers

    by their willingness to overspend as a way to enhance

    their self esteem, too.

     

    Whoa, almost a Haiku, that's deep, man.

     

    Explains Samsung's estimated $14 Billion expenditure on advertising this year.

  • Reply 53 of 60
    hill60 wrote: »
    Wrong.

    Symbian was classified as a smartphone OS under the accepted definition at the time.

    Nokia and others were selling tens of millions of Symbian based handsets.

    Versus how many feature phones? In the US the smartphone market was only 2% back in 2005. That's a small market in my book.
  • Reply 54 of 60

    This whole "android has 80% market share" nonsense is just a joke. When you strip out the cheap rubbish from people who "just want a phone" the share doesn't look so pretty.

     

    And FFS Orange is giving away Samsung Galaxy Tab 3's to anyone who takes - or extends - a contract, even if you have or buy an iPhone.

     

    What does that say about Android (or maybe more importantly about Samscum who is, after all the "premium" Android vendor)?

     

    Every stat, not just impressions, would lead any rational person to believe that "Android is winning" is just hype.

  • Reply 55 of 60
    "Android. Jack of all trades, leaders of none"
  • Reply 56 of 60
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    Versus how many feature phones? In the US the smartphone market was only 2% back in 2005. That's a small market in my book.

     

    Exactly the same trap "Android is at 80%" that people are falling into now.

     

    Symbian dominated the smartphone market worldwide for years, when it came to the crunch it didn't do any of it's vendors much good at all, particularly Nokia who despite being number one never really had much success in the US.

     

    The majority of Symbian "smartphones" were cheaper models which weren't used as smartphones, history is repeating itself.

  • Reply 57 of 60
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    hill60 wrote: »
    Exactly the same trap "Android is at 80%" that people are falling into now.

    Symbian dominated the smartphone market worldwide for years, when it came to the crunch it didn't do any of it's vendors much good at all, particularly Nokia who despite being number one never really had much success in the US.

    The majority of Symbian "smartphones" were cheaper models which weren't used as smartphones, history is repeating itself.

    Symbian was a big fish in a small pond but that pond has grown exponentially and what once was a big fish is now a guppy compared to the new huge fish taking up residence in the pond.
  • Reply 58 of 60
    hill60 wrote: »
    Whoa, almost a Haiku, that's deep, man.

    Explains Samsung's estimated $14 Billion expenditure on advertising this year.

    yes but it is about where corporations choose to place their advertising, they all advertise somewhere. with i-gadget users there is a group who seems to revel in their spending itself! so yeah advertisers notice that like a shark smells blood in the water! what I am missing is why this fact is braggable.
  • Reply 59 of 60
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by larry9 View Post





    yes but it is about where corporations choose to place their advertising, they all advertise somewhere. with i-gadget users there is a group who seems to revel in their spending itself! so yeah advertisers notice that like a shark smells blood in the water! what I am missing is why this fact is braggable.

    maybe, I suppose you are referring to people with higher paying jobs resulting from higher education and character. I don't hear these people bragging about it though. I just hear the lower educated (ditch digger) making excuses for why they are such poor ass folk.

  • Reply 60 of 60
    cyberjcyberj Posts: 19member
    maybe, I suppose you are referring to people with higher paying jobs resulting from higher education and character. I don't hear these people bragging about it though. I just hear the lower educated (ditch digger) making excuses for why they are such poor ass folk.
    And you wanna tell me YOU are rich? Haha, good one.
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