the powerbook duo? subnotebook? as far as i'm concerned the 12'' iBook is a subnotebook... perhaps not by definition, but certainly in terms of size, weight, and portability.
There isn't that much need for a Duo now. All the stuff that was once put into the base can now be crammed into a lighter, smaller laptop case. Personally, I would rather have all my stuff in one casing. Duo was cool in it's day, but it just isn't required now. That's my view anyway.
People like the Duo since that it can act as a subnotebook when it's undock from the Dock, and it can act as a desktop machine when it's docked into the Dock.
The Dock enable easier ?reconnection? in a regular visited place (like home and office).
Though I agree that a Dock feature isn't a top priority right now.
But if the iBook is dockable, it probably have to be docked from the left side, since most of its connections is on its left side.
But a full enclosure like the Duo Dock is unnecssary though for the iBook.
A simple plug-in module would do just fine for the iBook.
I hate these PC laptops that have external drives and stuff so I prefer everything to be in one casing unless anyone can think of something sensible to put in a dock that you wouldn't need when out. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[quote] nice big display and better speakers on a dock like enclosure.. <hr></blockquote>
Sounds good to me, but that isn't really a dock I don't think. Why not just buy a Studio display and a pair of SoundSticks for your desk? That idea appeals to me, I see where you are coming from, but I don't see why you would want to put a dispaly and some speakers in an enclosure.
How 'bout a faster, larger hard drive that can be used for NLE, an AGP video card (hopefully something like a FireGL or a Wildcat). You can't squeeze that into a subnotebook can you?
There's one problem-- the one thing you'd want to leave behind to save weight and space is the one thing you want with you on a long trip-- the DVD-ROM drive. So unfortunately, you'd still have a machine that's at least the size of a iBook.
How 'bout a faster, larger hard drive that can be used for NLE, an AGP video card (hopefully something like a FireGL or a Wildcat). You can't squeeze that into a subnotebook can you?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Having the hard disk for the machine in a seperate enclosure would really defeat the purpose. And AGP 4x through a docking station really isn't feasable. Then again, the Duo 280c had an FPU in the dock, so maybe they could figure something out.
Really, the purpose of a Duo was to have a totally stripped-down portable (no floppy or optical, less RAM, fewer ports, lower power usage) that would act as a desktop at home. That was before the days of true desktop-replacement laptops like the ones we have today. The real spiritual succesor to the Duo is the 12.1" iBook. Just holding one is really reminiscent of the old Duos.
I'd love to dock my iBook into a basestation with a 7200 rpm HD. What I'd really love is if it came with a utility to sync your internal HD (or selected files/folders) with the fast HD in the dock, so you have the benefit of the faster drive when docked, but automatically have all the files with you when you "undock".
Short of this, the one thing I'd really like is if the iBook had an additional mode allowing it to not go to sleep when the lid is closed, but have the LCD shut off. This way, you can attach a nice big monitor, a full keyboard, mouse, etc. when at home, without having the display mirrored. This way, you could stash the iBook away (even vertically) on the corner of your desk. You could buy one of those BookEndz things and just slide it into the side of your iBook and have a (limited-power) desktop system, with very little desk real estate.
[quote]no its not, @ least not for processer intnsive stuff... there are benchmarks around that have the TiBook 800 beating out the 800 G4 TOWER...
but in terms of HD access im sure the PB is much slower...[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Never mind that, check out today's update at <a href="http://www.barefeats.com" target="_blank">BareFeats</a>. They show that the new 667 meets or beats the iMac 800 and PowerMac 800 in most tasks. It kicks the tower's butt in a couple.
Can't believe how much it smokes the "old" 667. Wow.
<strong>They show that the new 667 meets or beats the iMac 800 and PowerMac 800 in most tasks. It kicks the tower's butt in a couple. </strong><hr></blockquote>
DAMNNIT MURBOT!!!
I AM TRYING TO CONVINCE MYSELF NOT TO GET THE TiBOOK!!!!
<strong>the powerbook duo? subnotebook? as far as i'm concerned the 12'' iBook is a subnotebook... perhaps not by definition, but certainly in terms of size, weight, and portability.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, by definition, the iBook is most certainly not a subnotebook in terms of weight. The iBook weighs about five pounds, and therefore roughly two pounds heavier.
I really loved the Duo line, but I doubt we'll ever see a subnote from Apple.
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The Dock enable easier ?reconnection? in a regular visited place (like home and office).
Though I agree that a Dock feature isn't a top priority right now.
But if the iBook is dockable, it probably have to be docked from the left side, since most of its connections is on its left side.
But a full enclosure like the Duo Dock is unnecssary though for the iBook.
A simple plug-in module would do just fine for the iBook.
I hate these PC laptops that have external drives and stuff so I prefer everything to be in one casing unless anyone can think of something sensible to put in a dock that you wouldn't need when out. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
but I still like the Duo form factor better than the 12" iBook
when you get home and want to review your work?
<img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
Sounds good to me, but that isn't really a dock I don't think. Why not just buy a Studio display and a pair of SoundSticks for your desk? That idea appeals to me, I see where you are coming from, but I don't see why you would want to put a dispaly and some speakers in an enclosure.
How 'bout a faster, larger hard drive that can be used for NLE, an AGP video card (hopefully something like a FireGL or a Wildcat). You can't squeeze that into a subnotebook can you?
There's one problem-- the one thing you'd want to leave behind to save weight and space is the one thing you want with you on a long trip-- the DVD-ROM drive. So unfortunately, you'd still have a machine that's at least the size of a iBook.
I'd much rather have a larger iBook with all the power of an Imac, but that won't happen.
Even the Powerbook G4 for $3500 is slower than the $1500 iMac. I hate that.
<strong>Even the Powerbook G4 for $3500 is slower than the $1500 iMac. I hate that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
no its not, @ least not for processer intnsive stuff... there are benchmarks around that have the TiBook 800 beating out the 800 G4 TOWER...
but in terms of HD access im sure the PB is much slower...
<strong>Are you people on crack!?!?!?!
How 'bout a faster, larger hard drive that can be used for NLE, an AGP video card (hopefully something like a FireGL or a Wildcat). You can't squeeze that into a subnotebook can you?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Having the hard disk for the machine in a seperate enclosure would really defeat the purpose. And AGP 4x through a docking station really isn't feasable. Then again, the Duo 280c had an FPU in the dock, so maybe they could figure something out.
Really, the purpose of a Duo was to have a totally stripped-down portable (no floppy or optical, less RAM, fewer ports, lower power usage) that would act as a desktop at home. That was before the days of true desktop-replacement laptops like the ones we have today. The real spiritual succesor to the Duo is the 12.1" iBook. Just holding one is really reminiscent of the old Duos.
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I'd love to dock my iBook into a basestation with a 7200 rpm HD. What I'd really love is if it came with a utility to sync your internal HD (or selected files/folders) with the fast HD in the dock, so you have the benefit of the faster drive when docked, but automatically have all the files with you when you "undock".
Short of this, the one thing I'd really like is if the iBook had an additional mode allowing it to not go to sleep when the lid is closed, but have the LCD shut off. This way, you can attach a nice big monitor, a full keyboard, mouse, etc. when at home, without having the display mirrored. This way, you could stash the iBook away (even vertically) on the corner of your desk. You could buy one of those BookEndz things and just slide it into the side of your iBook and have a (limited-power) desktop system, with very little desk real estate.
but in terms of HD access im sure the PB is much slower...[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Never mind that, check out today's update at <a href="http://www.barefeats.com" target="_blank">BareFeats</a>. They show that the new 667 meets or beats the iMac 800 and PowerMac 800 in most tasks. It kicks the tower's butt in a couple.
Can't believe how much it smokes the "old" 667. Wow.
[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: murbot ]</p>
<strong>They show that the new 667 meets or beats the iMac 800 and PowerMac 800 in most tasks. It kicks the tower's butt in a couple. </strong><hr></blockquote>
DAMNNIT MURBOT!!!
I AM TRYING TO CONVINCE MYSELF NOT TO GET THE TiBOOK!!!!
<strong>the powerbook duo? subnotebook? as far as i'm concerned the 12'' iBook is a subnotebook... perhaps not by definition, but certainly in terms of size, weight, and portability.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, by definition, the iBook is most certainly not a subnotebook in terms of weight. The iBook weighs about five pounds, and therefore roughly two pounds heavier.
I really loved the Duo line, but I doubt we'll ever see a subnote from Apple.
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