Were will apple be one year from now?
What will we be using in terms of software and hardware? 
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Apple will be dead and we'll all be using PCs
"We'll be kicking a$$"
<strong>OSX 10.3, top of the line Mac: G5 2 Ghz...Just a guess.
At the rate they're updating OS X, I expect we'll be a little higher than 10.3. Hopefully we'll have a .5 update by then. I don't know about processors though, it could really go either way.
Top of the line, realistically thinking:
Dual G4 1.2 GHz
new mobo with DDR RAM
Mac OS X 10.2.1
I suspect Apple will have the same niche market it has now. If current trends hold true, the G5 will be announced at MWNY, prepped to ship a month or so later.
What is their problem?
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If Apple can deliver a competetive G5 in January with DDR ram etc, and the economy turns around, they will gain significant market share by next Christmas. No one is more prepared for an economic rebound than Apple. In one year we'll see 2ghz+ powermacs, and all imacs will be g4 and flat panel, and we will see two new 'Hub' devices. For movies and/or Photos.
<strong>If significant progress is made in afghanistan etc, then the economy should show some very quick growth and people will be ready to start buying computers again. Since people "stopped" buying computers in droves there have been significant changes and advancements in computers.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The downturn in the economy started a long time before September 11, and the problems had hardly begun even then. Since September, things are a heck of a lot worse, and yet this still isn't being classified as a recession. I don't expect any improvement within the next year, and to be honest the current situations in Afghanistan and Israel are likely to make the economy unstable for quite some time.
On top of this, despite "significant changes and advancements", there is still no reason for corporate buyers to update their current hardware - the one main event which will turn around the PC market. I expect Microsoft were hoping XP would help this along, but as most corporations are discovering, there's very little incentive to update current systems running 2000 or even NT.
- Pulling a sub 10% market share.
- Behind Dell in education.
- Making more cool gizmos like the iPod.
- Opening more stores.
- Making OSX better.
- Charging a lot for their products.
<strong>In 1 year Apple will be:
- Pulling a sub 10% market share.
- Behind Dell in education.
- Making more cool gizmos like the iPod.
- Opening more stores.
- Making OSX better.
- Charging a lot for their products.
don't count on being behind Dell
and I expect them to start pricing a bit more agressive/competitive... look at the portables for example
What will it take then to turn that around. I can't imagine corporate buyers ever having a significant reason again to increase their hardware in droves like they did three or four years ago. The software/hardware is too good now and way less buggy then earlier windows versions.
The tech turnaround will be more consumer driven than ever. A turnaround in world events for the better will for sure spark a turnaround. And apple will be at the forefront of that turnaround hopefully by next Christmas. People are anxious to start spending money again. The next major computer upgrade will be a significant one, and Apple will have guns blazing with their retail (and e-tail) presence.
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What will it take then to turn that around.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Honestly, barring any major technological breakthroughs, it'll just take time. Unfortunately, I expect it'll be three or four years.
Quad G5 irons (servers)
OS XI
Apple PDA
iMac2
DDR
Firewire 2
Airport 21/2 40 MBPS
Economy bounces back Feb. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
I guess we are talking about Apple here.
17" flat panels standard
64MB of RAM and Rage 128s across the line
<strong>In 1 year Apple will be:
- Behind Dell in education.
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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT no cigar for you
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The downturn in the economy started a long time before September 11, and the problems had hardly begun even then. Since September, things are a heck of a lot worse, and yet this still isn't being classified as a recession. I don't expect any improvement within the next year, and to be honest the current situations in Afghanistan and Israel are likely to make the economy unstable for quite some time.
On top of this, despite "significant changes and advancements", there is still no reason for corporate buyers to update their current hardware - the one main event which will turn around the PC market. I expect Microsoft were hoping XP would help this along, but as most corporations are discovering, there's very little incentive to update current systems running 2000 or even NT.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Look at the consumer spending levels for October, which drive 2/3 of the economy. The level was up from the previous month 7.1%, the biggest recorded increase EVER.
Things are getting better already. even the market is starting to pick up.
Many stock brokers (never very nice to Apple to begin with) are starting to pick up their Apple bashing sticks again. They already desire to do this and Apple is giving them plenty of reason because they are repeating past mistakes instead of learning from them. (That and it appears they just aren't moving any machines)
What do I mean? Everyone and their mother has been clamoring for an inexpensive Mac to which you can attach a darn monitor. Apple instead offered up the cube. The reaction was "cool, but.... (to expensive, not expandible, not clear about direction....etc...)People are tired of 15 inch iMacs and the premium for going above 15 inches is massive. (not even a cube in there now so you go straight to $1699 just to run a crappy 17 inch monitor)
This year the PC boys have been having an insane price war. As Christmas is barreling down on us they are tossing out insane deals just to keep the doors open. $999 is buying you Pentium 4's with 17 inch monitors and free printers thrown in. (not mom and pop, I'm talking Dell, IBM, and Gateway)
Meanwhile Apple is sitting their with their tower prices at $100 MORE than they were even a few years ago.(no excuse for this..there are no duel processors, nor even cutting edge tech to finance, Apple is just sitting on 30% margins) To counter this they offer.... the iPod. A very stylish and very expensive MP3 player that is Mac only. (shades of the cube all over again) What Apple needed to do was create the Nintendo game cube only Macified and sell it for $499 without a monitor.
I predict that Apple is going to have a bloodbath on their hands. In December they will have moved literally no machines and in January their stock is going to be beat into the ground for it. (I predict about $13-14) In January Apple will preannounce the G5 but the machines won't ship in any real volume until late March (hello a whole quarter later) After two dismal quarters the naysayers will be out in force again and the buzzards will be circling.
Backs against the wall they finally decide to do an affordable non-iMac. Marketshare creeps back up to about 3.5% (down from the terrible high 2's I will predict for the December quarter) Apple is back in the black again, arrogance begins the slow return and we repeat......
Nick