Rumor: Apple UI chief Greg Christie set to leave after clashes with Jony Ive [update: confirmed]

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  • Reply 41 of 122
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    According to iMore, Christie's departure was announced internally weeks ago. At this point we don't know if there really was some big rift between the two or if Gurman is playing up the 'politics' angle for more page views.

    http://www.imore.com/jony-ive-completely-lead-software-design-group-vp-greg-christie-leave-apple
    [QUOTE]Although Gurman's report cites politics at play, Christie's departure had been announced internally weeks ago and there could also be elements of rest and recuperation involved as well.[/QUOTE]

    EDIT: I see in my Twitter feed the following statement from Apple:

    [QUOTE][Greg Christie] has been planning to retire later this year after nearly 20 years at Apple. He has made vital contributions to Apple products across the board, and built a world-class Human Interface team which has worked closely with Jony for many years.[/QUOTE]
  • Reply 42 of 122
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that Christie was the Apple employee that got OS X running on intel.

    Anyone?
  • Reply 43 of 122
    sky kingsky king Posts: 189member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bennettvista View Post



    The truth is that Jony needs a boss, an editor to do his best work. Steve was that guy. Without anyone to answer to he's swimming in his own pool of perfectionism and fear of failure. There are many examples of similar situations in the film business, music business, etc.. Artists who do their best work when they have someone to answer to, someone to kick them in the ass. But given total freedom and control they flounder.

    Now that was well said.  I think you r analysis is spot on.

  • Reply 44 of 122
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    I'm happy to hear that Jony is now working on Mac OS X as I love what they accomplished with iOS 7 (which I've been recently informed means I'm lying or just a rabid fanboy).
  • Reply 45 of 122
    sky kingsky king Posts: 189member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mario View Post



    It's a really bad idea to put hardware design guy in charge of software UI/usability. This is not good for iOS/OS X. iOS 7 is already a step back in many ways in usability and it is a little disconcerting to see Apple shedding people who made the company what it is/was so fast.

    Well said.  I agree that the design of the hardware is beautiful.  But if I have to put up with ugly hardware in order to get really usable and reliable software I would choose the software all the time.  And I believe that your concern is completely justified.  The best thing a new CEO can do when assuming command of a well running company is NOTHING, at least for a long, long time,

  • Reply 46 of 122

    If my desktop take the IVY look I am over the MAC...... I chose the Mac for the shadows, the slick look and everything has now gone flat,,, and the experience is now flat as well!    If Mavericks is the end , then it is the end for me,,,,,, Or give the option to turn the shadows, transparency and beauty, get that and BEAUTY, back on!!!      I have been around since Microsoft 3,0 and IBM and it seems we are back where it all started, way not just a green screen JONY,,,, that would be flat and simple!!!!..... You need to watch more Star Trek!

  • Reply 47 of 122
    adhiradhir Posts: 50member
    Huge mistake. I agree 100% that iOS7, while fresher and more modern, went too far in abandoning the use of shadows/gradients - hell, even outlines! I have to believe these were driven by Ive, and Forstall and Christie must have been against "flat at all costs". Ive is a hardware guy where minimalism is a good thing. In software, you still need to be able to tell a button from text.
  • Reply 48 of 122

    Why does AppleInsider give us that same old photo of Jony Ive, instead of a photo of the much more relevant Greg Christie?  It is Christie, after all, who's the subject of the story and who's leaving.  It would be nice to see him, even if it's on his way out.

  • Reply 49 of 122
    terun78terun78 Posts: 36member
    Everyone is whining about how bad iOS 7 is but the install base is over 80%. Jony is doing good, he's bringing change. Most of you are griping over the fact that you have to deal with change. Change can be good so stop bitching people or just go to Android.
  • Reply 50 of 122
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by unknwntrr View Post



    I hope Ive doesn't make OS X as flat and contrast free as iOS 7%u2026

    Agreed. As a 58-year-old with several eye surgeries under my belt, I could use a little more contrast with my UIs, especially iOS 7.

  • Reply 51 of 122
    pmz wrote: »
    Cue the comments on how Ive will continue to ruin the Apple UI like he did with iOS 7....

    What? That's what the trolls on other sites are saying....

    LOL, something like:
    "Make it thinner... No, more thinner! No, I can still see it!"
  • Reply 52 of 122
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that Christie was the Apple employee that got OS X running on intel.

    Anyone?

    He wasn't a software engineer. He's a ux guy.
  • Reply 53 of 122
    mazda 3smazda 3s Posts: 1,613member
    Why does AppleInsider give us that same old photo of Jony Ive, instead of a photo of the much more relevant Greg Christie?  It is Christie, after all, who's the subject of the story and who's leaving.  It would be nice to see him, even if it's on his way out.

    Try finding a usable photo of Greg Christie to post. I'll be waiting...
  • Reply 54 of 122
    sporlosporlo Posts: 143member
    I agree with those saying Apple no longer pays attention to detail. The details they care about are completely useless crap. My beef with iOS 7 is not that I just don't like how it looks. I've actually grown to appreciate some of the new aesthetics (keyword: some), but its problem is the ridiculous and pretentious changes to the actual UX and UI.

    Now we're hearing that Ive just kicked out the guy in charge of the "Human Interface team"? The "Human Interface" is EXACTLY what's wrong with iOS 7.
  • Reply 55 of 122
    sporlo wrote: »
    I agree with those saying Apple no longer pays attention to detail. The details they care about are completely useless crap. My beef with iOS 7 is not that I just don't like how it looks. I've actually grown to appreciate some of the new aesthetics (keyword: some), but its problem is the ridiculous and pretentious changes to the actual UX and UI.

    Now we're hearing that Ive just kicked out the guy in charge of the "Human Interface team"? The "Human Interface" is EXACTLY what's wrong with iOS 7.

    So...you're saying the person responsible is out?
  • Reply 56 of 122
    mechanicmechanic Posts: 805member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peter236 View Post



    The chief in industrial design has not released any dramatically new designs since iPhone 4. It is not surprising their market share is crumbling.

    LOL.

  • Reply 57 of 122

    This IU is horrible to the sensibilities of aesthetics...... It look like DOS 3.1 and the circle continues!!!!

  • Reply 58 of 122
    sporlosporlo Posts: 143member
    terun78 wrote: »
    Everyone is whining about how bad iOS 7 is but the install base is over 80%. Jony is doing good, he's bringing change. Most of you are griping over the fact that you have to deal with change. Change can be good so stop bitching people or just go to Android.
    Change has no inherent goodness to it. It can be good, bad, or neutral. What if we started with the iOS 7 design and changed to iOS 6? Change is always good!

    As for install base, there's no reason to use old software if the new stuff at least works. There's the security reasons and compatibility reasons.
    Finally, you can attribute the high adoption rate to Apple's own aggressiveness. Remember that guy who sued because iOS 7 was downloaded automatically and he couldn't remove it? Apple was not this aggressive in the past.

    You never stated what specifically Ive has done that's good. All you did was assert that change is inherently good.
    (And I actually like some of the changes in iOS 7, but that doesn't make me blind to its problems)
  • Reply 59 of 122
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Sky King View Post

    My My.


     

    You know absolutely nothing about anything. Shut up.

     

    Originally Posted by Sky King View Post

    The best thing a new CEO can do when assuming command of a well running company is NOTHING, at least for a long, long time,

     

    Thanks for contradicting yourself.

  • Reply 60 of 122
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    So...you're saying the person responsible is out?

    The person responsible for iOS 6 and previous is out.

    That said I generally like iOS 7. Except that half arsed fake button nonsense they introduced in 7.1. And needs some shadows.

    I like the way the interface gets out of the way - scrolling in safari for instance. Seems snappy on my 4S. I think it was overly buggy on release though.
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