If we get big Ghz, then what of the laptops?
Let's assume that in a months time we get a 1.5Ghz DDR 333 based PowerMac. It will have no bottlenecks and will fly, with Athlon XP type performance. All for $2500.
Suddenly, the Powerbook G4 drops from flagship to ugly sister, costing $3500 but being less than half the power of its big brother and totally unable to run Rayz, Shake etc properly.
Would Apple release a totally revamped Powerbook perhaps at MWSF03? With DDR and a new mobile 7470 @ 1.2Ghz? Or will they let it stagnate like the PowerMac?
What do you all think? Moki?
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Suddenly, the Powerbook G4 drops from flagship to ugly sister, costing $3500 but being less than half the power of its big brother and totally unable to run Rayz, Shake etc properly.
Would Apple release a totally revamped Powerbook perhaps at MWSF03? With DDR and a new mobile 7470 @ 1.2Ghz? Or will they let it stagnate like the PowerMac?
What do you all think? Moki?
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<strong>I'll answer for Moki.
"I will not condone a course of action that will lead us to war."</strong><hr></blockquote>
A 1Ghz SOI part could live in the Ti (with all the duct/heatsink in there) but it'd be a bit hotter.
IF the new PM's are getting .13u SOI G4's, I'd guess they'd migrate over to the powerbook faster than it took them to migrate the G4 (from pismo G3).
.13u SOI would be a lot smaller/cooler. It's a natural fit for a laptop.
but knowing apple, i seriously doubt that we´ll see both a PowerMac and PowerBook update at MWNY... still, if they bump the 'books somewhen round the release of Jaguar, it will be a very happy summer!
PM with 333 MHz FSB, 333 MHz DDR RAM, 1.332 GHz G4
Diamond Powerbook with 333 MHz FSB, 333 MHz DDR RAM, 999 MHz (1 GHz) G4
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PM with 333 MHz FSB, 333 MHz DDR RAM, 1.332 GHz G4
Diamond Powerbook with 333 MHz FSB, 333 MHz DDR RAM, 999 MHz (1 GHz) G4</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now we're talking!
Now that I'd buy without hesitation. Currently, the Ti800 is tempting, but I can't help feeling we'll be getting a lot more in the next major revision.
Two obvious things we will get are Bluetooth & Superdrive. Superdrives need either a lot of CPU power (a 1Ghz G4 can do 1:1 DVD encoding to burning) or a dedicated hardware MPEG2 encoder.
I want to see:
- 1.2Ghz CPU
- 512Mb DDR333
- Firewire 2
- USB 2
- Superdrive
- MPEG2 encoder
- Bluetooth
- Combo 802.11b/802.11g Airport
All for the current price. Those specs would lift the Titanium beyond the PC competition and leave room for G4 iBooks.It took a long time for CDrw to make it to the laptop. But maybe DVDrw will make the move over to a bit faster. It's just the kind of thing Apple (especially Stevie) loves, "For the first time DVD authoring, burning, and proofing on the road! No other maker..."
<strong>You know, if the Ti could get a superdrive then you could pretty much scale the speed of the iBook's Sahara chip and the Ti's G4 without any worry of potential overlap.
It took a long time for CDrw to make it to the laptop. But maybe DVDrw will make the move over to a bit faster. It's just the kind of thing Apple (especially Stevie) loves, "For the first time DVD authoring, burning, and proofing on the road! No other maker..."</strong><hr></blockquote>
Exactly!
And there's the fact that Apple has become THE laptop manufacturer of choice for features and good looks. Steve would want to retain that image.
But the sad fact is you can buy an Alienware 2Ghz laptop, so we really need a speed bump to help with the perception gap.
IF we get a .13u SOI G4 it might feature 512KB of on chip L2. At that point Apple might take away the L3 again, but I think it'd be a better proposition to keep the 1MB L3 or even enlarge it to 2MB (just like the towers). It seems to have a very good effect on performance and should be included -- all the more so if the CPU speed bumps are minimal.
There'll be no 1-2GHz PowerBooks/iBooks until they either find a way to cool the CPU in the slickest of notebooks or design a lower-power version of G4.