And can you tell me when HTC came up with the idea?
Apple has shown us time and time again that who came up with an idea is irrelevant. It's he who holds the patent to the technology that holds the power. It's then up to the patent holder to decide if they want to use it aggressively. If I were HTC I would be a little nervous right now.
Apple has shown us time and time again that who came up with an idea is irrelevant. It's he who holds the patent to the technology that holds the power. It's then up to the patent holder to decide if they want to use it aggressively. If I were HTC I would be a little nervous right now.
Could be that it's part of their license deal. I just find it funny how it was poo-pooed when HTC released it, but now it's the 8th wonder of the world now that it's Apple's idea.
:P You so know HTC already have something similar, so did Samsung? The patent is so generic that is can be used to cover so many things. This will get shot out of the water if it ever enter a courtroom.
Also, remember that Apple NEVER submit a working prototype for their patent while HTC already have a working product out in the market. So it can easily be argued that this is AT BEST (for apple that is) a parallel development of existing technology, which in turns implies that it should not have been patented at all. Goes to show how lazy and dysfunctional and incompetent your US patent Office has become.
That’s funny. I’ll have to remember to say that to you the next time you post something truthful.
Uh… huh…
Which it does automatically.
Again, no, for the reasons stated above.
No, you are wrong. After the initial chime and screen pop up the screen turns back off and there is no way to subsequently know that there is any notification without turning the screen on (slight exception for SMS, iMessages, and calendar alerts which give a second chime). You are wrong, wrong, wrong. Many other phones compensate by having an LED to illuminate the waiting notifications, but the iPhone does not. If you miss the chime then your phone screen turns back off and you need to turn it on to know anything happened. Whether or not you think that LED is a good solution, the iPhone has no lasting solution to that issue, so the LED is superior.
After the initial chime and screen pop up the screen turns back off and there is no way to subsequently know that there is any notification without turning the screen on.
By design. Because it’s a waste of energy otherwise.
Whether or not you think that LED is a good solution, the iPhone has no lasting solution to that issue, so the LED is superior.
You changed your argument from "Apple have it" to "Apple don't need it", and I really can't be bothered to partake in such ridiculousness. "Apple don't have it" is all I ever said, which is not a lie.
The biggest concern is always battery life, because now it would be powering an accessory, which makes sense on an ipad with a bigger battery but not an iphone. I wouldn't mind a smart cover on the iphone though. I like the auto wake sleep on the cover.
You changed your argument from "Apple have it" to "Apple don't need it", and I really can't be bothered to partake in such ridiculousness. "Apple don't have it" is all I ever said, which is not a lie.
You have to understand how TS “thinks.”
Reasoning:
Apple makes a superior design choice. > Apple is right.
Apple makes an inferior design choice. > Apple is never wrong. > Apple is right.
You changed your argument from "Apple have it" to "Apple don't need it", and I really can't be bothered to partake in such ridiculousness. "Apple don't have it" is all I ever said, which is not a lie.
TS is right on this matter. The problem is, you don't express yourself clearly, which leads you to get upset when your statements are challenged.
TS is right on this matter. The problem is, you don't express yourself clearly, which leads you to get upset when your statements are challenged.
I'm sure I could express myself better, there aren't many people who can claim otherwise, but otherwise that's a pile of nonsense. I'm not upset, and TS is the one who rants and raves, accuses people of lying with no evidence, and lets his need to be sarcastic and smug overcome his faculties of reason.
Pray tell, where was I unclear, where did I get upset, and how is anything TS said "clearly expressed", as opposed to bluster and insult?
You then follow this sentence with, "Apple don't have any active notification messaging beyond the initial chime. If your screen is off, the only way to know there's anything waiting is to turn it on."
?Your second sentence here contradicts the first. If Apple notifies you with a chime, then that is letting you know that there's something waiting without turning on your screen. That is one example of your lack of clarity.
The iPhone and iPad are portable devices, which Apple would reasonably expect you to have with you most of the time. Therefore, they consider one notification to be enough. What's more, to keep repeating notifications would drain the battery and quickly annoy.
You then follow this sentence with, "Apple don't have any active notification messaging beyond the initial chime. If your screen is off, the only way to know there's anything waiting is to turn it on."
?Your second sentence here contradicts the first. If Apple notifies you with a chime, then that is letting you know that there's something waiting without turning on your screen. That is one example of your lack of clarity.
The iPhone and iPad are portable devices, which Apple would reasonably expect you to have with you most of the time. Therefore, they consider one notification to be enough. What's more, to keep repeating notifications would drain the battery and quickly annoy.
There is no contradiction in what he wrote. He said there is no notification after the initial chime, and in order to find out about missed notifications in the case that you miss the initial chime you have to turn on the display. That solution is not elegant because by repeatedly turning on the display to discover any missed notifications you drain a lot of battery.
Android phones have gotten around this problem with the notification LED and even more advanced solutions like the Active Display on the Moto X.
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Simply ingenious!
Can't innovate my ass... Go Apple.
Unfortunately this is just a copy of the HTC M8 dot view case that most people on here slated (but now it's suddenly a good idea).
And can you tell me when HTC came up with the idea?
Apple has shown us time and time again that who came up with an idea is irrelevant. It's he who holds the patent to the technology that holds the power. It's then up to the patent holder to decide if they want to use it aggressively. If I were HTC I would be a little nervous right now.
Could be that it's part of their license deal. I just find it funny how it was poo-pooed when HTC released it, but now it's the 8th wonder of the world now that it's Apple's idea.
That’s funny. I’ll have to remember to say that to you the next time you post something truthful.
Uh… huh…
Which it does automatically.
Again, no, for the reasons stated above.
:P You so know HTC already have something similar, so did Samsung? The patent is so generic that is can be used to cover so many things. This will get shot out of the water if it ever enter a courtroom.
The sad thing is, they are able to patent without even a working prototype, so many of these are just patent to troll their competitors. :P
On the other hand, it was not approved until
Also, remember that Apple NEVER submit a working prototype for their patent while HTC already have a working product out in the market. So it can easily be argued that this is AT BEST (for apple that is) a parallel development of existing technology, which in turns implies that it should not have been patented at all. Goes to show how lazy and dysfunctional and incompetent your US patent Office has become.
Sadly this is how the patent works now, first to file and not first to invent, which is just an easy and lazy way out for the Patent Offices.
On the other hand, when there are strong prior art, it can still take precedent in court, and can be used to show that the patent is invalid
That’s funny. I’ll have to remember to say that to you the next time you post something truthful.
Uh… huh…
Which it does automatically.
Again, no, for the reasons stated above.
No, you are wrong. After the initial chime and screen pop up the screen turns back off and there is no way to subsequently know that there is any notification without turning the screen on (slight exception for SMS, iMessages, and calendar alerts which give a second chime). You are wrong, wrong, wrong. Many other phones compensate by having an LED to illuminate the waiting notifications, but the iPhone does not. If you miss the chime then your phone screen turns back off and you need to turn it on to know anything happened. Whether or not you think that LED is a good solution, the iPhone has no lasting solution to that issue, so the LED is superior.
Nope.
By design. Because it’s a waste of energy otherwise.
Apple doesn’t want a “lasting” solution.
Good. Maybe you won’t lie in the future, then.
You changed your argument from "Apple have it" to "Apple don't need it", and I really can't be bothered to partake in such ridiculousness. "Apple don't have it" is all I ever said, which is not a lie.
The biggest concern is always battery life, because now it would be powering an accessory, which makes sense on an ipad with a bigger battery but not an iphone. I wouldn't mind a smart cover on the iphone though. I like the auto wake sleep on the cover.
You have to understand how TS “thinks.”
Reasoning:
Apple makes a superior design choice. > Apple is right.
Apple makes an inferior design choice. > Apple is never wrong. > Apple is right.
Not a single word of a lie.
You changed your argument from "Apple have it" to "Apple don't need it", and I really can't be bothered to partake in such ridiculousness. "Apple don't have it" is all I ever said, which is not a lie.
TS is right on this matter. The problem is, you don't express yourself clearly, which leads you to get upset when your statements are challenged.
TS is right on this matter. The problem is, you don't express yourself clearly, which leads you to get upset when your statements are challenged.
I'm sure I could express myself better, there aren't many people who can claim otherwise, but otherwise that's a pile of nonsense. I'm not upset, and TS is the one who rants and raves, accuses people of lying with no evidence, and lets his need to be sarcastic and smug overcome his faculties of reason.
Pray tell, where was I unclear, where did I get upset, and how is anything TS said "clearly expressed", as opposed to bluster and insult?
You then follow this sentence with, "Apple don't have any active notification messaging beyond the initial chime. If your screen is off, the only way to know there's anything waiting is to turn it on."
?Your second sentence here contradicts the first. If Apple notifies you with a chime, then that is letting you know that there's something waiting without turning on your screen. That is one example of your lack of clarity.
The iPhone and iPad are portable devices, which Apple would reasonably expect you to have with you most of the time. Therefore, they consider one notification to be enough. What's more, to keep repeating notifications would drain the battery and quickly annoy.
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Whatever dude, sorry I argued with your poppa bear. He was blustering and insulting long before I arrived.
There is no contradiction in what he wrote. He said there is no notification after the initial chime, and in order to find out about missed notifications in the case that you miss the initial chime you have to turn on the display. That solution is not elegant because by repeatedly turning on the display to discover any missed notifications you drain a lot of battery.
Android phones have gotten around this problem with the notification LED and even more advanced solutions like the Active Display on the Moto X.