All the conservatives in Eastern WA fantasize that no one will pay taxes and relocate businesses to Seattle. In fact, record start ups, relocations galore and tens of billions of private capital investment in 2014.
Great to see this new drones eye view of Apple HQ taking shape. Will Steve Jobs have an empty office there too?
I hope not. Apple needs to stay focused on the future and on improving what is here today. An organization that is stuck on veneration of the past wouldn't stay in business long...unless it's a museum.
I hope that video was taken on a Sunday, because it didn't look like any actual construction was going on.
I also fail to understand why the auditorium is going to cost $161 million. That seems incredibly excessive. Prior reports said that it's going to have seating for 1000, so that's $161,000 per seat. You should be able to construct a small house for each person for that. And for big Apple press events, is 1000 seats anywhere near enough? And even for internal Apple events, obviously only a very small percentage of employees can fit in there at any one time.
Oh, wow. You should email Apple with these concerns. Because clealy, they just came up with these numbers randomly. It's not like they have thousands of best-in-field expert working on this project for years, and made extremely detailed, intricate, and thought out assessments of every single facet of this. No, clearly it's "excessive", and they don't have a clue of what they're doing. You should email them about the "small house" thing, maybe they'll tear the whole thing down and do that instead.
Because you know, the richest company on the planet should cheap out when building their new HQ, which will be operational for many decades. $161M is fucking peanuts when you're generating close to $40B of revenue a quarter. Not saying Apple should shit their $$ down the drain, and clearly they havent been doing that, but I can't think of a better cause than investing whats needed to make the best HQ possible.
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I hope not. Apple needs to stay focused on the future and on improving what is here today. An organization that is stuck on veneration of the past wouldn't stay in business long...unless it's a museum.
Why the hell are those things mutually exclusive? So Apple can't hold deep admiration and honor the individual on whose philosophies Apple is based, keep those lessons in mind, while at the same time innovate and move forward aggressively? That's exactly what Apple has been doing, and should keep doing. You need to keep in mind where you came from, in order to know where you're going.
I hope not. Apple needs to stay focused on the future and on improving what is here today. An organization that is stuck on veneration of the past wouldn't stay in business long...unless it's a museum.
Why the hell are those things mutually exclusive? So Apple can't hold deep admiration and honor the individual on whose philosophies Apple is based, keep those lessons in mind, while at the same time innovate and move forward aggressively? That's exactly what Apple has been doing, and should keep doing. You need to keep in mind where you came from, in order to know where you're going.
Oh, wow. You should email Apple with these concerns. Because clealy, they just came up with these numbers randomly. It's not like they have thousands of best-in-field expert working on this project for years, and made extremely detailed, intricate, and thought out assessments of every single facet of this. No, clearly it's "excessive", and they don't have a clue of what they're doing. You should email them about the "small house" thing, maybe they'll tear the whole thing down and do that instead.
Because you know, the richest company on the planet should cheap out when building their new HQ, which will be operational for many decades. $161M is fucking peanuts when you're generating close to $40B of revenue a quarter. Not saying Apple should shit their $$ down the drain, and clearly they havent been doing that, but I can't think of a better cause than investing whats needed to make the best HQ possible.
Why the hell are those things mutually exclusive? So Apple can't hold deep admiration and honor the individual on whose philosophies Apple is based, keep those lessons in mind, while at the same time innovate and move forward aggressively? That's exactly what Apple has been doing, and should keep doing. You need to keep in mind where you came from, in order to know where you're going.
The comment was a rebuke of the "empty office" theory.
Any idea whether the new building will have a "Company Store" like the one on Infinite Loop? I'm not thrilled with the merch, but it would at least be a way to get on the new campus.
You can seat a lot more than 1000 in 120,000 square feet. (An average size Walmart is about 100,000 square feet.)
My guess is that the square footage encompasses the entire auditorium complex, including the stage, backstage, A/V control room, storage, auxiliary meeting rooms, support areas, a large pre-event foyer, emergency exit tunnels, climate control, plant rooms, etc.
It's not a retail space. It's a theatre primarily designed for media events and internal gatherings of a certain size. It's not big box retail with aisles of crap designed for herds of humans with massive shopping carts, with a big-ass HVAC system littering the roof.
It's a theater, primarily designed for spoken word corporate presentations, not operas and rock concerts. There would likely be some breakout rooms, something you don't need at concert venues like The Fillmore.
I'm surprised Apple went with a standard ugly concrete parking garage instead of some of the high tech underground automated parking structures that you often see in Europe and Asia. It would make the area look much nicer.
Most of those automated systems are fairly small in relation to the number of spaces Apple will need. I looked at several manufacturers sites and the biggest ones were around 750 spaces - the biggest in the world is apparently only 1200 spaces. Additionally, these systems are complex marvels that surely have maintenance costs orders of magnitude greater than a concrete garage. Seems impractical for what Apple needs.
My complaint is that the structures could be much more attractive without breaking the bank. There are hundreds of options available to cover the exterior that would look so much better. Here in Austin we have a small garage for a hospital that is skinned in etched glass and it is really nice looking. I have seen garages covered in various types of perforated metal, aluminum channels, stainless steel mesh and on and on. I really don't get why these structures would have such a mundane appearance next to something like the mothership. I doubt that same architect designed both.
One possibility is that Apple hopes that vines will eventually cover the parking structures' exterior walls. That would help them blend better into the surrounding landscaping, rather than a stark metal structure. Some of the local freeway sound walls have vines growing on them.
Apple has made a strong commitment in returning this site to a more natural look, that would be far more in line rather than a sleek monolithic parking structure.
Again, this may also help mitigate noise from the freeway, I-280 that passes by Campus 2.
One possibility is that Apple hopes that vines will eventually cover the parking structures' exterior walls. That would help them blend better into the surrounding landscaping, rather than a stark metal structure. Some of the local freeway sound walls have vines growing on them.
Apple has made a strong commitment in returning this site to a more natural look, that would be far more in line rather than a sleek monolithic parking structure.
Again, this may also help mitigate noise from the freeway, I-280 that passes by Campus 2.
Perhaps, one day, we'll be able to make these structures and their contents invisible from outside.
With the cost of building materials like steel and concrete gone through the roof and extreme high end sound & projection systems they could blow through that easily. Think monster stand-alone IMAX Xtreme.
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Amazon: Nearly 4 million square foot expansion in Seattle.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2014/12/amazon-adds-nearly-4-million-square-feet-of.html
Paul Allen has made a huge investment with is Vulcan Real Estate:
http://www.bizjournals.com/profiles/company/us/wa/seattle/vulcan_real_estate/1084493
Here is the next big project just south east of CenturyLink Field:
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/2014/11/10-years-in-the-making-massive-stadium-east.html
Current Seattle 2013 Downtown Projects PDF: http://www.downtownseattle.com/assets/2013/07/June-2013-Development-Guide-Update-FINAL.pdf
2014 Guide: Wide PDF: http://www.downtownseattle.com/files/file/DSA_SOD_DevGuideMap_2014.pdf
Yahoo Photo Search of Downtown Seattle and the land of Cranes:
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A86.JyNxUppUXzsAwt8PxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTBsOXB2YTRjBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--?_adv_prop=image&fr=yhs-mozilla-001&sz=all&va=downtown+seattle+crane&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
All the conservatives in Eastern WA fantasize that no one will pay taxes and relocate businesses to Seattle. In fact, record start ups, relocations galore and tens of billions of private capital investment in 2014.
I hope not. Apple needs to stay focused on the future and on improving what is here today. An organization that is stuck on veneration of the past wouldn't stay in business long...unless it's a museum.
I hope that video was taken on a Sunday, because it didn't look like any actual construction was going on.
I also fail to understand why the auditorium is going to cost $161 million. That seems incredibly excessive. Prior reports said that it's going to have seating for 1000, so that's $161,000 per seat. You should be able to construct a small house for each person for that. And for big Apple press events, is 1000 seats anywhere near enough? And even for internal Apple events, obviously only a very small percentage of employees can fit in there at any one time.
Oh, wow. You should email Apple with these concerns. Because clealy, they just came up with these numbers randomly. It's not like they have thousands of best-in-field expert working on this project for years, and made extremely detailed, intricate, and thought out assessments of every single facet of this. No, clearly it's "excessive", and they don't have a clue of what they're doing. You should email them about the "small house" thing, maybe they'll tear the whole thing down and do that instead.
Because you know, the richest company on the planet should cheap out when building their new HQ, which will be operational for many decades. $161M is fucking peanuts when you're generating close to $40B of revenue a quarter. Not saying Apple should shit their $$ down the drain, and clearly they havent been doing that, but I can't think of a better cause than investing whats needed to make the best HQ possible.
I hope not. Apple needs to stay focused on the future and on improving what is here today. An organization that is stuck on veneration of the past wouldn't stay in business long...unless it's a museum.
Why the hell are those things mutually exclusive? So Apple can't hold deep admiration and honor the individual on whose philosophies Apple is based, keep those lessons in mind, while at the same time innovate and move forward aggressively? That's exactly what Apple has been doing, and should keep doing. You need to keep in mind where you came from, in order to know where you're going.
I hope not. Apple needs to stay focused on the future and on improving what is here today. An organization that is stuck on veneration of the past wouldn't stay in business long...unless it's a museum.
Why the hell are those things mutually exclusive? So Apple can't hold deep admiration and honor the individual on whose philosophies Apple is based, keep those lessons in mind, while at the same time innovate and move forward aggressively? That's exactly what Apple has been doing, and should keep doing. You need to keep in mind where you came from, in order to know where you're going.
That's an unusually perceptive post from you.
More of the same, please.
The comment was a rebuke of the "empty office" theory.
Great story in the San Jose Mercury News about Apple's efforts in preserving a historic barn on the Campus 2 property.
You can seat a lot more than 1000 in 120,000 square feet. (An average size Walmart is about 100,000 square feet.)
My guess is that the square footage encompasses the entire auditorium complex, including the stage, backstage, A/V control room, storage, auxiliary meeting rooms, support areas, a large pre-event foyer, emergency exit tunnels, climate control, plant rooms, etc.
It's not a retail space. It's a theatre primarily designed for media events and internal gatherings of a certain size. It's not big box retail with aisles of crap designed for herds of humans with massive shopping carts, with a big-ass HVAC system littering the roof.
It's a theater, primarily designed for spoken word corporate presentations, not operas and rock concerts. There would likely be some breakout rooms, something you don't need at concert venues like The Fillmore.
I'm surprised Apple went with a standard ugly concrete parking garage instead of some of the high tech underground automated parking structures that you often see in Europe and Asia. It would make the area look much nicer.
Most of those automated systems are fairly small in relation to the number of spaces Apple will need. I looked at several manufacturers sites and the biggest ones were around 750 spaces - the biggest in the world is apparently only 1200 spaces. Additionally, these systems are complex marvels that surely have maintenance costs orders of magnitude greater than a concrete garage. Seems impractical for what Apple needs.
My complaint is that the structures could be much more attractive without breaking the bank. There are hundreds of options available to cover the exterior that would look so much better. Here in Austin we have a small garage for a hospital that is skinned in etched glass and it is really nice looking. I have seen garages covered in various types of perforated metal, aluminum channels, stainless steel mesh and on and on. I really don't get why these structures would have such a mundane appearance next to something like the mothership. I doubt that same architect designed both.
One possibility is that Apple hopes that vines will eventually cover the parking structures' exterior walls. That would help them blend better into the surrounding landscaping, rather than a stark metal structure. Some of the local freeway sound walls have vines growing on them.
Apple has made a strong commitment in returning this site to a more natural look, that would be far more in line rather than a sleek monolithic parking structure.
Again, this may also help mitigate noise from the freeway, I-280 that passes by Campus 2.
Perhaps, one day, we'll be able to make these structures and their contents invisible from outside.
If only Steve Jobs were here to guide us.
Well, he's not.
Let it go.
With the cost of building materials like steel and concrete gone through the roof and extreme high end sound & projection systems they could blow through that easily. Think monster stand-alone IMAX Xtreme.
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