Every so often I like to go to Google and query iMac 4k, Mac mini 2015, and Intel Skylake. In the summer there were a lot of 4k iMac rumors but they seem to have stopped... might there be a reason why?
Good question....? I wonder too. I really hope that they gonna come with new ones in October. I can't wait until 2016. Please someone come with some rumours..... Any kind
If the rumors have slowed, it's because "it's already in production" pretty much ends the discussion. The only debate seems to be whether Kuo is right and there will be a new type of display, and whether or not there will be an October event.
IMHO -- Certainly if Kuo is right, then there will be an event. Improved displays in the iMacs are sort of like improved cameras in the iPhones/iPads -- a reason for many to upgrade -- and Apple will want to highlight this. I don't think this would just be a press release. Not a full-scale media circus like the iPhone/iPad event, but enough to get customers to like me to watch it on my Apple TV. I'm thinking November, timed for the "available now" date for iPad Pro and iOS 9.1 -- one of the goals of the presentation would be to show how the iPad Pro integrates with the new iMacs and El Capitan, which will be over a month old by then. I can see the slide now, trumpeting the adoption rate of El Capitan -- remember, no machines are left behind by El Capitan, as was also true for Yosemite and Mavericks, so the rate will likely increase once again.
I'd love to think an event would include the Mac Pro update and the new Cinema Display, and I suppose it might -- but the actual release date would be further on, 2016.
Well usually there's updates on the keynote and such. That's all I figure.
Oh, I see. I don't remember there being a lot of notice for the October events in the past, but looking back through the Ai archives, I see the first mention of a rumored October 2014 event was September 17, with increasingly specific stories as late as October 3 still considered "rumors" -- Apple only announced the event on October 8, sending invitations a week ahead of the October 16 event.
So that's good, I guess. But you are right that there were a lot of rumors in September last year about an upcoming event and what it might contain.
The good news is that last year's October event came after the early September iPhone 6 and Apple Watch event, so there is precedent for a second event.
Either Apple has kept an exceptionally tight lid on things this year, or there isn't going to be an event in October.
Oh, I see. I don't remember there being a lot of notice for the October events in the past, but looking back through the Ai archives, I see the first mention of a rumored October 2014 event was September 17, with increasingly specific stories as late as October 3 still considered "rumors" -- Apple only announced the event on October 8, sending invitations a week ahead of the October 16 event.
So that's good, I guess. But you are right that there were a lot of rumors in September last year about an upcoming event and what it might contain.
The good news is that last year's October event came after the early September iPhone 6 and Apple Watch event, so there is precedent for a second event.
Either Apple has kept an exceptionally tight lid on things this year, or there isn't going to be an event in October.
it is easy for Apple to keep that tight lid on because there has been so much interest in iPhone and iPad. Apple can literally keep the community focused on the mobile hardware while it readies the Mac Line.
As for iMac specifically I suspect it will ship as soon as everything is ready which might be as late as November. I'm expecting all new Thunderbolt 3/ USB-C interfaces, a move to PCI Express SSD as the primary and maybe only storage medium, a new screen and what every else can be thrown in. Due to the long drawn out development cycle for Intel chips most of the development work should be done already, the only thing that is really needed is testing and chips in real volume at this point.
The other way to look at this is that we only have two weeks left before Apple will say something if the delivery is expected in October.
Every so often I like to go to Google and query iMac 4k, Mac mini 2015, and Intel Skylake. In the summer there were a lot of 4k iMac rumors but they seem to have stopped... might there be a reason why?
The reason is fairly straight forward, Mac rumors don't generate page hits like iPhone and iPad rumors do.
I am waiting too, I need to upgrade but I cannot decide what setup I need so I am waiting for the new iMacs to see what they offer.
News is slow going, but I doubt there will be another event, I am not sure apple have enough to announce, they won't have an event just to rehash everything and announce a few new macs, I imagine it would be a press release spec bump. The fact they already announced the iPad pro and it's not available yet, i think is evidence of this, if there was a mac keynote in October it would have made sense to keep the iPad pro for this keynote, as the past one was already extremely crowded with announcements.
Well, it may depend on how big a deal the rumored new materials are (see the second link in my post above), along with the resulting "color saturation" improvement. If there is going to be an event basically about this, about higher-end professional displays and what they are capable of, then it seems likely that it would include a new Cinema Display.
So 4K iMac, refresh for the 5K iMac with an even better display, new 5K Cinema Display, and maybe, just maybe, the Mac Pro refresh. Basically a Macintosh event. Maybe also some sort of MacBook Pro news, at least in terms of driving the new Cinema Display -- that would be the first question I would have -- can my MacBook Pro drive this thing?
So 4K iMac, refresh for the 5K iMac with an even better display, new 5K Cinema Display, and maybe, just maybe, the Mac Pro refresh.
Something like that.
They're all due an update. Would be good to have the iMac 4k, iMac 5k, 5k Cinema Display and Mac Pro refresh at a 'Mac' event with El Capitan OSX. Given the 'blow out' all star recent iOS based devices event...
Regarding any iMac purchase. Graphics cards are due a colossal update via process shrink next year. I won't consider upgrading my iMac to retina with that looming. Next year we should finally have GPUs that can 'throw' around 4k/5k displays.
Bar the Fury releases, ATI cards are merely rebadged currently. A 990M Nivida ('980GTX'?) might be nice to have but given current politics it isn't going to happen.
Better to wait for HBM with 8 gigs or VRAM next year...and the blistering speeds a gpu process shrink should bring.
In the meantime, I can enjoy an iPad Pro with Pencil and maybe even sell my current iMac.
Shame we aren't getting any 6 core i7 gpus for the iMac for the top end. Or even 8 core ones.
Intel's performance seems to have glacial incremental improvements over the last few years. Skylake in that regard is a bit of a disappointment.
At the current rate of going, Apple's 'A' chips are chasing down Intel chips. Hard to believe an A9 chip is hanging with Intel laptop chips in the Macbook and 'only' a few year old Macbook Airs. ...and the A9X in the iPad Pro to bench...and an A10 chip will likely be on the heels of this in just over 9 months time.
But at least the 'stuff' around Skylake should make for a more responsive overall system.
I wonder what AMD's next gen cpu will bring. Maybe that will ignite a more competitive cpu market.
Big updates in GPU's next year? really? Hmm... the problem really is though that there is always a big update on something around the corner if you wait long enough and by the time you wait there is something else coming then too.
I am trying to figure out what tech setup I need, I tend to buy something higher end-ish and keep it for a long time,but my current system of 1.8 core2duo, 2gb ram, SSD,and old old old 64mb intergrated graphics is showing it's age, I don't know how much longer I want to wait out.
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In the summer there were a lot of 4k iMac rumors but they seem to have stopped...
You mean, other than this one from less than two weeks ago?
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/188148/rumor-apples-21-5-inch-imac-with-4k-display-now-in-production
And this major item from less than three weeks ago?
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/188004/new-imac-displays-said-to-improve-color-saturation-via-led-phosphor-sales-could-reach-1m-this-quarter
If the rumors have slowed, it's because "it's already in production" pretty much ends the discussion. The only debate seems to be whether Kuo is right and there will be a new type of display, and whether or not there will be an October event.
IMHO -- Certainly if Kuo is right, then there will be an event. Improved displays in the iMacs are sort of like improved cameras in the iPhones/iPads -- a reason for many to upgrade -- and Apple will want to highlight this. I don't think this would just be a press release. Not a full-scale media circus like the iPhone/iPad event, but enough to get customers to like me to watch it on my Apple TV. I'm thinking November, timed for the "available now" date for iPad Pro and iOS 9.1 -- one of the goals of the presentation would be to show how the iPad Pro integrates with the new iMacs and El Capitan, which will be over a month old by then. I can see the slide now, trumpeting the adoption rate of El Capitan -- remember, no machines are left behind by El Capitan, as was also true for Yosemite and Mavericks, so the rate will likely increase once again.
I'd love to think an event would include the Mac Pro update and the new Cinema Display, and I suppose it might -- but the actual release date would be further on, 2016.
Well usually there's updates on the keynote and such. That's all I figure.
Oh, I see. I don't remember there being a lot of notice for the October events in the past, but looking back through the Ai archives, I see the first mention of a rumored October 2014 event was September 17, with increasingly specific stories as late as October 3 still considered "rumors" -- Apple only announced the event on October 8, sending invitations a week ahead of the October 16 event.
So that's good, I guess. But you are right that there were a lot of rumors in September last year about an upcoming event and what it might contain.
The good news is that last year's October event came after the early September iPhone 6 and Apple Watch event, so there is precedent for a second event.
Either Apple has kept an exceptionally tight lid on things this year, or there isn't going to be an event in October.
it is easy for Apple to keep that tight lid on because there has been so much interest in iPhone and iPad. Apple can literally keep the community focused on the mobile hardware while it readies the Mac Line.
As for iMac specifically I suspect it will ship as soon as everything is ready which might be as late as November. I'm expecting all new Thunderbolt 3/ USB-C interfaces, a move to PCI Express SSD as the primary and maybe only storage medium, a new screen and what every else can be thrown in. Due to the long drawn out development cycle for Intel chips most of the development work should be done already, the only thing that is really needed is testing and chips in real volume at this point.
The other way to look at this is that we only have two weeks left before Apple will say something if the delivery is expected in October.
The reason is fairly straight forward, Mac rumors don't generate page hits like iPhone and iPad rumors do.
I am waiting too, I need to upgrade but I cannot decide what setup I need so I am waiting for the new iMacs to see what they offer.
News is slow going, but I doubt there will be another event, I am not sure apple have enough to announce, they won't have an event just to rehash everything and announce a few new macs, I imagine it would be a press release spec bump. The fact they already announced the iPad pro and it's not available yet, i think is evidence of this, if there was a mac keynote in October it would have made sense to keep the iPad pro for this keynote, as the past one was already extremely crowded with announcements.
Well, it may depend on how big a deal the rumored new materials are (see the second link in my post above), along with the resulting "color saturation" improvement. If there is going to be an event basically about this, about higher-end professional displays and what they are capable of, then it seems likely that it would include a new Cinema Display.
So 4K iMac, refresh for the 5K iMac with an even better display, new 5K Cinema Display, and maybe, just maybe, the Mac Pro refresh. Basically a Macintosh event. Maybe also some sort of MacBook Pro news, at least in terms of driving the new Cinema Display -- that would be the first question I would have -- can my MacBook Pro drive this thing?
Something like that.
They're all due an update. Would be good to have the iMac 4k, iMac 5k, 5k Cinema Display and Mac Pro refresh at a 'Mac' event with El Capitan OSX. Given the 'blow out' all star recent iOS based devices event...
Regarding any iMac purchase. Graphics cards are due a colossal update via process shrink next year. I won't consider upgrading my iMac to retina with that looming. Next year we should finally have GPUs that can 'throw' around 4k/5k displays.
Bar the Fury releases, ATI cards are merely rebadged currently. A 990M Nivida ('980GTX'?) might be nice to have but given current politics it isn't going to happen.
Better to wait for HBM with 8 gigs or VRAM next year...and the blistering speeds a gpu process shrink should bring.
In the meantime, I can enjoy an iPad Pro with Pencil and maybe even sell my current iMac.
Lemon Bon Bon.
A year should also bring down SSD prices some more to have them as standard and have PCI Express on iMacs.
By then Skylake and the overall system components should have settled into the marked some more. Eg. USB '3' and DDR4 etc.
Lemon Bon Bon.
Shame we aren't getting any 6 core i7 gpus for the iMac for the top end. Or even 8 core ones.
Intel's performance seems to have glacial incremental improvements over the last few years. Skylake in that regard is a bit of a disappointment.
At the current rate of going, Apple's 'A' chips are chasing down Intel chips. Hard to believe an A9 chip is hanging with Intel laptop chips in the Macbook and 'only' a few year old Macbook Airs. ...and the A9X in the iPad Pro to bench...and an A10 chip will likely be on the heels of this in just over 9 months time.
But at least the 'stuff' around Skylake should make for a more responsive overall system.
I wonder what AMD's next gen cpu will bring. Maybe that will ignite a more competitive cpu market.
Interesting times.
Lemon Bon Bon.
Big updates in GPU's next year? really? Hmm... the problem really is though that there is always a big update on something around the corner if you wait long enough and by the time you wait there is something else coming then too.
I am trying to figure out what tech setup I need, I tend to buy something higher end-ish and keep it for a long time,but my current system of 1.8 core2duo, 2gb ram, SSD,and old old old 64mb intergrated graphics is showing it's age, I don't know how much longer I want to wait out.