MS to make PCs?

gobble gobble

SpyMac has posted a rumor that MS wants to get into the PC making business. See <a href="http://www.spymac.com/"; target="_blank">http://www.spymac.com/</a>; Frankly this strikes me as a load of BS. I just can't see the logic behind the move as described by the article.

evo

Bleh, why do people still visit that site? I stopped giving them hits after that whole iWalk fiasco. That was just insulting.

eman

SpyMac sucks, I wouldn't believe anything they say.



But what if MS started making PCs? What would Jobs say since MS would be "making both the software and the hardware".

cubedude

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cubedude

Same with me, now everything they write just gets even more far-fetched.



As to M$ making PC's, just chalk this up as another piece of SpyMac crap.

ghost_user_name

Ummm.... Microsoft already sells a PC.



They call it the "XBox"

junkyard dawg

Spymac correctly reported on the eMac several weeks before it was announced.

paul

[quote]Originally posted by eVo:

<strong>Bleh, why do people still visit that site? I stopped giving them hits after that whole iWalk fiasco. That was just insulting.</strong><hr></blockquote>



ditto, actually i stopped visiting ALL rumor sites at about that time too (atat doesnt count )



[quote] EmAn

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SpyMac sucks, I wouldn't believe anything they say.



But what if MS started making PCs? What would Jobs say since MS would be "making both the software and the hardware". <hr></blockquote>



wouldnt matter because they would still have to support all the "other" hardware... if M$ were to make PCs they would be exactly like dell... actually that would be a great move for them if they wanted to move into that space... of course, im sure gates has a better idea tho... :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />



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Spymac correctly reported on the eMac several weeks before it was announced. <hr></blockquote>



Who cares? <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> they still put out crap and I dontknow why people waste their time with it.. at least AtAT is entertaining...

junkyard dawg

Since spymac correctly predicted the eMac, that means that SOME of their reports are based on true inside info. That's why it matters. If you don't care about inside info, then what the fu[k are you doing here at AI???

paul

[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

<strong>If you don't care about inside info, then what the fu[k are you doing here at AI???</strong><hr></blockquote>



because its fun to speculate... besides over here there is a community people help you if you need help and you have the opportunity to help other people when they are having trouble... at spymac what have you go? just a shit load of ads... i'll stick with AI and rely on people like you to give me the goods from spyMac and other crapholes...

frawgz

Uh... ok.



Not to make it any more or less believable, but this is what a guy on the forums has to add:

[quote]OK...



I heard about this over 3 months ago from someone who swears up and down that he and the CFO of Apple are close. This person has never given me any reason to distrust him but when he told me what was up, I just couldn't post it because I don't want to start irresponsible rumors.



But here's more on the story. Microsoft indeed wants to get into the hardware business. But that would be in direct violation of the antitrust agreements they've signed into. The only way Microsoft can build hardware is if they have legitimate competition. At 5%, Apple doesn't come close to fulfilling that requirement. Microsoft needs a competitor with at least 35% of the market share for them to be in compliance with the antitrust agreements.



This is the REAL news about this story. Apple and Microsoft have secretly been meeting to figure out how to get Apple's market share to the magical 35% point. Microsoft is going to back Apple and continue creating killer apps for Apple.



If you don't believe me, why hasn't M$ legal jumped all over the Apple "Switch" campaign for using the term "Windows" in their ads? It was M$ idea. And they're going to help Apple get to 35% because this is M$ dream now. And Bill gets what Bill wants.



Microsoft just released Internet Explorer 5.2.1 - It's on their website. Wow. They sure are releasing a lot of software for the Mac lately. I wonder why?<hr></blockquote>

frawgz

By the way, I'm highly skeptical. Assuming both are true, why would Microsoft let Apple take 35% of the pie just so they could get into the sinking hardware business? What do they think they have to gain?



Secondly, the poster's supporting factoids hardly say anything about the supposed hardware move. What COULD Microsoft do about Apple's Switch campaign that they're not already doing?



And of course, an IE update? Surely this signals that MS is trying to boost the Mac's marketshare!



Still, it's an interesting thought..

kecksy

I don't think Microsoft is helping Apple to do anything.



If you look at their business strategy, it's pretty clear that Microsoft hates competition.



The only reason Apple is still around is because they're too small to pose a real threat to Microsoft?s monopoly. Apple existence also allows Microsoft to argue that people do have a choice when it comes to picking an OS. They just pick Windows.



However, if Apple suddenly died tomorrow, Gates wouldn't shed a tear. He'd just laugh and layoff all the people working at the Mac Business Unit.



Oh, and a Microsoft ?Dream PC? using a Via C3 CPU? :laugh:

kcmac

Apple 35% of the market? That is fun to think about. Of course, if that really did happen, I can't imagine it stopping at 35. So many people would have exposure to the superior OS that there would be no stopping it.

luca

Did Apple ever have 35% of the market share? Perhaps in the very early years? Because if so, it's because at the time, Apple was a huge innovator: they had the GUI, which was completely new at the time. They had personal computers, at affordable prices (not cheap, but affordable). Apple offered something that no one else had. In order for Apple to regain all the market share they've lost over the years, they'll have to come up with something so fundamentally different and better than current computers that it may not even be recognizable. Something that makes ALL current computers, regardless of how new or cool they are, look like dinosaurs. But I don't see that happening any time soon.

brianmacos

Do you actually think it is smart for MS to even start building a PC with all the crap they are currently going though.. I don't see it happening... and with the XBox MS just invested in it and backed it so they could have their name... I am still waiting for my XBox to display the blue screen of death That would be funny...

bluesigns

[quote] Apple and Microsoft have secretly been meeting to figure out how to get Apple's market share to the magical 35% point. <hr></blockquote>





HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ROTFLMAO !



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !





oh , man .......oh, man .........that is one of the funniest things i have heard in ages !



if you are not getting paid for writing comedy yet......let me assure you there could be big bucks in it for you in the future.





thanks for the laugh.

i needed that.



oh.....i've got tears rolling down my cheeks.

trailmaster308

I think that is a load of crap myself, but that thing about the 35% thing....is that true? The only way M$ can get into the hardware business is if they had competetion from a company that makes hardware and software? Why did they have that rule imposed on them....were they toying with this idea before?



Please excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject.

frawgz

[quote]Originally posted by bluesigns:

<strong>if you are not getting paid for writing comedy yet......let me assure you there could be big bucks in it for you in the future.

</strong><hr></blockquote>



I assume you're talking to me mistakenly. If so, I guess I'll take credit for that line if it makes you so happy.