Audio in and Logic
Now that Apple has purchased Emagic, will they add a sound in jack? If so, will the built in sound be 24bit or stay 16 bit? Will they add midi ports? And will they modify the current emagic hardware to be more Mac like in appearance...... or make new hardware: midi keyboard controllers and interfaces?
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<strong>Now that Apple has purchased Emagic, will they add a sound in jack? If so, will the built in sound be 24bit or stay 16 bit? Will they add midi ports? And will they modify the current emagic hardware to be more Mac like in appearance...... or make new hardware: midi keyboard controllers and interfaces?</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes, yes, no, yes, no...
actually... I have no idea
I'd settle for OSX drivers for the existing MOTU interfaces, myself.
[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: sizzle chest ]</p>
Apple finally realizes that they have to get their hands a little dirty to push the market forward. Final Cut Pro has expanded the market and hopefully Logic Audio will do the same for Audio.
<strong>I expect any audio changes will take months to implement. Maybe MWSF?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You make that statement as if they just woke up one morning last week and said "hey, lets buy emagic!"
I'm sure this has been in the works for a while and if they thought audio changes were needed for the next powermacs they would have time to do it.
[ 07-05-2002: Message edited by: DoughBoy ]</p>
That was originally posted by sizzle chest in <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=001042&p=3" target="_blank">this thread.</a>
Fair call.
Isn't it funny how Apple has neutered even their $4000 towers, to the point where you can't even plug in a mic out of the box and record with it? If you ask me it's pathetic. Whatever...
<strong>I expect any audio changes will take months to implement. Maybe MWSF?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, the emagic deal did take months...
<strong>Nothing Real and Silicon Grail overlap. Emagic and Motu overlap. There is no reason to believe they wont go after another audio company or two. It may or may not be Motu, but it will be someone. The only odd part is having Emagic as a separate unit in Germany. If Apple wanted to though, they could just buy an American company and ship all their technical know-how over there. Or buy an American company and bring it all in house, creating two teams working in conjunction, but on separate things.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think MOTU was a viable option but my guess is that this situation mirrored the infamous NeXT vs Be scenario in which Apple looked at MOTU's talents vs Emagic and went with emagic. Logic Platinum does amazing things once you learn the program is what I hear. Motu is Mac only but even their staunchest fans are extremely upset about the lack of OSX drivers and updates to DP. Also Apple loves to get popular talent with their purchases and having Dr Gerhard Lengeling is a nice pickup. I think overall that the engineering talents of Emagic are superior to that of MOTU(in Software). I expect great things from this purchase.
It's Good To Be Living In These High Tech Times!!!
[ 07-07-2002: Message edited by: illume Gallery ]
[ 07-07-2002: Message edited by: illume Gallery ]</p>
My personal experience was that this jack port was unusally succeptable to damage if an input was repeated attached over time ... i used to get a stereo imbalance or sound degradation, even with quality cabling. Not everybody needs audio in ... many Apple customers will be capturing audio from DV sources, and FW copes well with this. Having a new digital audio subset (intro'd on the PMs in MWSF 01) and losing the audio in provides more benefits than losses, IMHO)
And i concur that anyone using a pro audio app like Logic will need >1 audio I/O option. I think many of these compalints come from warez kidz who have not actually bought a copy of Cubase, Digital Performer or Logic, and are pissed that they can't just get an audio source in for free. My opinion is that anyone buying a new mac for audio work, and spending $300+ on an audio package is going to care enough to buy an Edirol, Griffin input ate the VERY least ... and more likely will buy a PCI card/MOTO box/Mbox-type audio adapter with a good range of audio options. And many will aim even higher.
So don't sweat it. And dont wait for Apple to build dedicated audio hardware ... 3rd party developers do it well for macs, and emagic will no doubt continue to provide solutions like this, with better OS X support. This Emagic purchase is very important for Apple, but it is predominantly a professional focused purchase. There may be a trickle-down move to a more commercial iApp in the future, but even then I believe that will predominantly be focused on editing own sounds from CD-ROM, sample banks, DV and similar sources.
My thruppence ha'penny's worth
And I concur
I can't see why Apple dropped it...maybe it was the move to USB? If so I would have expected them just to switch the included microphone to usb format.
Does anyone have any idea why Apple decided to drop the audio-in?
<strong>There once was a sound-in jack on all towers, they even shipped with a microphone. I found it handy just to do basic projects that required some sounds that I could record myself.
I can't see why Apple dropped it...maybe it was the move to USB? If so I would have expected them just to switch the included microphone to usb format.
Does anyone have any idea why Apple decided to drop the audio-in?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Rephrase your question-
"Why did Apple drop the mic on the towers and not the iMac?" I'll never understand why my folks can video conference right out the box and I have to buy a fricking mic.