BlackBerry CEO says Apple's security stance puts company over 'greater good'

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Despite having similar on-device encryption and claiming to protect users' data vigorously, BlackBerry CEO John Chen slammed Apple chief Tim Cook in a Tuesday sppech, sugesting that Cook was putting his company's reputation "above the greater good."




"One of our competitors, we call it 'the other fruit company,' has an attitude that it doesn't matter how much it might hurt society, they're not going to help," said Chen during a question-and-answer session at the BlackBerry Security Summit, according to The Inquirer. "I found that disturbing as a citizen," he added. "I think BlackBerry, like any company, should have a basic civil responsibility. If the world is in danger, we should be able to help out."

Chen cautioned that there do need to be "clear guidelines," altering the conversation's trajectory after a follow-up question. "The guidelines we've adopted require legal assets. A subpoena for certain data. But if you have the data, you should give it to them."

Despite Chen's attitude regarding the Department of Justice's battle with Apple this spring, the CEO said he disagrees with the premise of lawmakers seeking mandatory encryption workarounds. "There's proposed legislation in the US, and I'm sure it will come to the E.U., that every vendor needs to provide some form of a back door," he noted. "That is not going to fly at all. It just isn't."

In a post to the official BlackBerry blog in December 2015, Chen took swipes at Apple for refusing to unlock a meth dealer's phone in New York City. In the post, Chen used language similar to that at the Security Summit, saying that "we are indeed in a dark place when companies put their reputations above the greater good."

Contrary to Chen's claims and implications, Apple has complied with thousands of search warrants seeking customer data. Apple does provide information it holds when it considers an order to be valid, and has a rapid response team for such matters.

During the investigation of the San Bernadino shootings in December 2015, Apple's team provided initial data and assistance to the FBI less than three days after a request was made. Follow-up requests by the FBI for more information were often replied to within the same day.

The shooter's iPhone 5c had been prevented from making further iCloud backups after discovery by the FBI, because of a password request made by the city of San Bernardino at the behest of law enforcement. Chen is taking issue with Cook's refusal to order Apple engineers to build and maintain a tool allowing the FBI access to the encrypted iPhone.

At the time of the court order mandating that Apple unlock the device, Cook said that "the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone."

Ultimately, the FBI found an alternate way to penetrate the iPhone. The hack cost the agency more than $1.34 million, according to director James Comey. No useful data was found.
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  • Reply 1 of 54
    libertyforalllibertyforall Posts: 1,295member
    The Blackberry CEO clearly is clueless about security, IMHO.  
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  • Reply 2 of 54
    mtbnutmtbnut Posts: 195member
    Baffling that someone in that industry still has yet to understand how encryption works. There is no gray area; this is one of those (technical) issues that is actually black and white. You either have strong encryption, or you don't. I'm a Liberal Arts major and I understand this, as I did attend school the day they taught us Basic Math. On the other hand, he might just be playing the emotion card so he can increase his company's product user base by 100%, to 70.
    edited July 2016 mwhitelondortmaySolitrollkillerbrucemcbaconstangrepressthisdacharnetmage
  • Reply 3 of 54
    mwhitemwhite Posts: 194member
    Time for this company to DIE already >:)
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  • Reply 4 of 54
    lymflymf Posts: 65member
    In the post, Chen used language similar to that at the Security Summit, saying that "we are indeed in a dark place when companies put their reputations above the greater good."
    define greater good... I don't see how creating a Backdoor that can be reused in the future to give the governments all the power over their citizens is the greater good. 
    edited July 2016 londornolamacguytmaymwhiteSolitechguy911jay-tmike1badmonkbaconstang
  • Reply 5 of 54
    ceek74ceek74 Posts: 324member
    Blackberry - a turd that won't flush.
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  • Reply 6 of 54
    Chen says: "I think BlackBerry, like any company, should have a basic civil responsibility. If the world is in danger, we should be able to help out." How is Blackberry doing with: Running their company on clean energy, Labor, Recycling, Elimination of hazardous materials, Mining conflict-free minerals. If he truly thinks Apple isn't doing as well as Blackberry to improve their "basic civil responsibility" then perhaps a re-evaluation of his company is in order.
    edited July 2016 mwhitebadmonkbaconstangAnijony0repressthisiqatedonetmagejbdragon
  • Reply 7 of 54
    igorskyigorsky Posts: 422member
    Sure Chen thinks that now. Pretty sure that he'd be singing a different tune if it was decade ago, when Blackberry was a leader in mobile security. Phony douche.
    mwhitebadmonkrepressthis
  • Reply 8 of 54
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,335member
    He's just butt hurt that drug cartels and terrorist organizations no longer use Blackberry products.
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  • Reply 9 of 54
    yoyo2222yoyo2222 Posts: 116member
    Wait, what?

    Oh, have to suck up to keep those government contracts coming in.
    baconstang
  • Reply 10 of 54
    Says the soon to be bankrupt company.
    donjuanbadmonkrepressthisjbdragon
  • Reply 11 of 54
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,335member
    Also, even if Apple reduced the encryption and security of their devices, the "bad guys" can simply use any number of openly available encryption tools to hide their conversations. 
    badmonkbaconstangrepressthis
  • Reply 12 of 54
    lymf said:
    In the post, Chen used language similar to that at the Security Summit, saying that "we are indeed in a dark place when companies put their reputations above the greater good."
    define greater good... I don't see how creating a Backdoor that can be reused in the future to give the governments all the power over their citizens is the greater good. 
    completely agree
    badmonk
  • Reply 13 of 54
    tshapitshapi Posts: 292member
    The blackberry CEO is indirectly saying he doesn't believe apple when they say they have no access. If you read between the lines. He's saying because of that the government will require mandatory backdoors. And he is trying to blame apples principals for this piece of legislation. 
    donjuan
  • Reply 14 of 54
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 17,035member
    Blackberry is still a company?  :wink: 
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  • Reply 15 of 54
    Blackberry calling Apple "The Other Fruit Company" is like Michelle calling Robin "The Other Williams".
    sockrolidbadmonk
  • Reply 16 of 54
    larryalarrya Posts: 548member
    Headline should read, "Blackberry Leadership Continues to Miss the Boat - Irrelevancy Fully Intact"
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  • Reply 17 of 54
    SoliSoli Posts: 8,862member
    "One of our competitors, we call it 'the other fruit company..."

    You mean the one founded in 1976, as compared to the one that was founded in 1984 under the name Research In Motion, which didn't have a product named after a fruit until 1999, and didn't rename themselves BlackBerry until 2013 in a poorly executed attempt to rebrand themselves?
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  • Reply 18 of 54
    I have seen some "greater good" when I lived in socialist country in Easter Europe for few decades in the past. Mr. Chen should be careful with his statements. Some of us can check his and not only his ideas on the subject.
    badmonk
  • Reply 19 of 54
    donjuandonjuan Posts: 31member
    With leaders like Chen no wonder BB is in the crapper. 
    badmonkbaconstang
  • Reply 20 of 54
    donjuandonjuan Posts: 31member
    yoyo2222 said:
    Wait, what?

    Oh, have to suck up to keep those government contracts coming in.
    Hildog still uses a BlackBerry. She will give them huge new contracts after that big Clinton foundation bribe...err donation goes through. 
    badmonk
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