Sony Droids : Future Hardware Standards?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I don't expect that we'll be able to control Sony's robots, either the AIBO line or the upcoming SDR-4X robo-man, from a Mac...



But as these products move away from expensive toy status to useful devices does anyone expect for there to be a way for them to be controlled from anything other than a Windows-based PC?



There's really no reason for there to be a hardware controller in your PC is there?



Hardware-wise, will future droids even need to communicate with our PC's? Sony seems to have addressed this with their proprietary memory stick technology. Will Sony rule the consumer droid business entirely? If not, what kind of hardware standards may become issues for competing manufacturers in the coming years?





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  • Reply 1 of 13
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    I think you may have discovered the next component of the digital hub.



    iRobot: control and program your robotic devices from your desktop. It's the next golden age of computing...
  • Reply 2 of 13
    ihxoihxo Posts: 567member
    those droids are too far from being useful, but it certainly is fun. in order for those droids to be useful, I guess we'll need to have really really good voice/pattern regonition, otherwise they'll always be robots that could be programmed to dance.
  • Reply 3 of 13
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    Well dancing robots aren't going to get the work done now are they!



    I really don't see robots as being part of the digital hub anytime soon (partly in fear of this Future Hardware thread being shuffled off to the Digital Hub forum). Still, using the example of the droid army from Star Wars : Phantom Menace, you could indeed have your robots controlled via a wireless connection, relieving them of the need for bulky on-board computational gear.



    Imagine a robot that is controlled and programmed via an Airport connection.

    There's absolutely NO demand for such a device now, but it does seem that virually ANY device should be able to be maintained by a wireless connection.



    And any device that accomplishes a bit of autonomous work is, I believe, technically able to be called a robot. So even your VCR or your programmable coffee maker may be considered to be a robot.



    Will the technology behind Airport replace X-10 technology? I don't know...but hey, there's an interesting NEW topic if anyone wants to grab it and start it.



    Meanwhile, back to consumer droids.



    If Panasonic/Matsushita and Sony and JVC and others begin bringing their droids to market you'll start seeing some real-world applications:



    Perhaps roving security cameras.

    Caretakers.

    The legendary vacuum or grasscutting robots finally becoming ubiquitous.

    Everyday tools for police and fire and rescue units.



    When this happens I predict a long period where there are no standards for inter-communication between robots. But what if a common language is developed for these devices to share data. What kind of data would they share? What kind of files would they likely be? (Future Software forum)



    If you communicate with these devices it will be by keyboard or mouse-click for a good long time, although I guess VR is good enough for some programmability at this point.



    There WILL be kit droids once again, the old Heathkit robots were the last popular hobbyist model. This time around it will be on the order of PC clones made by hobbyists. Upgrade kits, vision cards, motherboards, the whole deal.



    I just wonder where these technologies are right now, being that they're in their nascent stages. Who will be the suppliers for the hardware and who will be driving the standards game in this field? Right now it looks like Sony is the leader.
  • Reply 4 of 13
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    These aren't the droids you're looking for. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />





    (Hey. Somebody had to say it. )
  • Reply 5 of 13
    cdhostagecdhostage Posts: 1,038member
    Seriously, there are two possible jobs for the first EFFECTIVE robot:



    personal aide for rich people



    sex robot.
  • Reply 6 of 13
    ihxoihxo Posts: 567member
    [quote]Originally posted by cdhostage:

    <strong>sex robot.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Sex Machine !?
  • Reply 7 of 13
    iRobot? It's been done by some designer named Isaac Asimov.
  • Reply 8 of 13
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    I just finished reading an article about Sony's humanoid robot, indicating that they WERE working on a common language system for communication between units.



    If you had larger industrial robots equipped with an IR-vision system you could sell them as security droids which communicate wirelessly with their comrades helping to assemble a bigger picture of the overall state of the facility they were protecting. The idea is old, but the technology is rising to the concept these days.



    If Sony sees profit in any of these areas it might pursue it, but for now their products are all considered to be for entertainment purposes only.



    I just hope they all have good motivators....



    D
  • Reply 9 of 13
    [quote]Originally posted by cdhostage:



    sex robot.<hr></blockquote>



    That would be a <a href="http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/2002_01_06_archive.htm"; target="_blank">sexbot.</a>



    I'm waiting for the holodeck version.



    AI != AppleInsider
  • Reply 10 of 13
    rick1138rick1138 Posts: 938member
    They are autonomous robots,they don't need to communicate with a controller,they do need to be programmed though.
  • Reply 11 of 13
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    "Oh my!! Machines making machines!! How perverse!"
  • Reply 12 of 13
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    Yup, not a lot of robo-geeks in this forum I guess....nobody wants to actually discuss the hardware issues or anything....



    Let's just allow this thread to slide to the bottom of the stack....
  • Reply 13 of 13
    hoshos Posts: 31member
    Sony's not the only one working on autonomous robots.



    Check out:



    <a href="http://www.evolutionrobotics.com"; target="_blank">www.evolutionrobotics.com</a>



    for another company.



    Unfortunately, to save costs, they seem to be concentrating on implementing Windows-based laptops, but I would imagine that retrofitting to a Mac-based laptop wouldn't be too tough...



    Especially if they programmed in Java, or used embedded Linux, or such techniques which wouldn't be too difficult to port...



    -HOS
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