Doomsday for Apple...not again!

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
<a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0210/10.usnews.php"; target="_blank">http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0210/10.usnews.php</a>;



Even if Apple did bite the dust, there would be somebody who would snap them up in a second.

The brand and following is so strong that someone like an IBM, Sony (or heck even MS) would be stupid not to pick it up.

Do people not realize the millions of Mac owners out there to support and potentially make money off of? Not to mention all the software developers such as Adobe and Quark who would stand to lose revenue through upgrades.

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  • Reply 1 of 14
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    What are you about? Low share prices? :confused:





    Edit:



    Sorry, didn't see the link. How tired I am of this discussions. Don't bother reading this crap, Apple is alive, if that changes I go somewhere else. EOS



    [ 10-10-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</p>
  • Reply 2 of 14
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Apple is loosing market share in education because Apple is arrogant and educators are cheap. Oh well.
  • Reply 3 of 14
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    [quote]Originally posted by Kecksy:

    <strong>Apple is loosing market share in education because Apple is arrogant and educators are cheap. Oh well.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I believe this is an important issue. If apple wans to expand market share, it must target the younger people. If these kids or teens get to expereience Macs in school, they are more likely to buy once they graduate and earn money.



    For someone who has never touched a Mac in school, it will be more difficult for them to buy a mac cos they will have to go thorugh the switching and cost barrier.



    And these kids/teens represent the future of apple's market share. The current market share of 4% cannot be sustained in the long run if apple do not do anything about the education market.



    And face it, educators are cheap. But they tend to buy in bulk, and apple must somehow try to lower its prices .
  • Reply 4 of 14
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Sorry just going off topic a second.



    [quote]Apple is loosing market share...<hr></blockquote>



    Don't take this personally but I'm just interested in this because I've seen the mistake being made increasingly often. Are American's confused about the difference between loose and lose because it is being taught incorrectly at school or have they just become increasingly blasé about spelling?



    I'm a lousy speller these days because I rely on spell checkers but I see that error a lot in American documents lately for some reason and I am just wondering what it is.



    The other one I notice, although this is the world over, is the tendency towards saying, "an 'istoric" where the h is dropped completely. Now I am sure this has come from "an 'our" but in that case the h is always silent, for instance you say, "The 'our". In history you wouldn't say, "The 'istory" it would (and does) make you sound as if you are a peasant who has come out of the English Middle Ages.



    I know a decade and beyond back hour was as it is now but in the past 3 - 5 years I have noticed increasingly people have adopted saying, "an 'istory" instead of "a history". They do it with some othe h words too but for now they escape me. It seems to be people are just trying to teach themself the simple rule that you ignore the h following a "a" if a vowel follows it. I'd really have to wonder what they'd say with something like heuristics where the h is more pronounced.



    I also hate to think what they'd do if they needed to speak arabic, which has 3 differnt H sounds in speech.



    Anyway back on topic for a fraction of a second. I can't really say I am too surprised people don't have a lot of confidence in Apple. Although they may be generating the second highest profit of a consumer computer manufacturer their method of doing business really doesn't encourage investors and analysts. Apple really needs to develop some solid business plans and advertise it more aggressively, particularly with respect to enterprise and educational markets.



    I believe Apple is among the worst companies at advertising its products. If I wasn't familiar with their products I really would never buy them or even give them a look and most people simply aren't familiar with Apple products.



    [ 10-11-2002: Message edited by: Telomar ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 14
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,425member
    Telomar...people are just poor spellers.



    confusion reigns supreme over.



    Their- They're

    Than versus Then (ie more then one-wrong)

    lose-loose "lose the loose shirt"

    to-too "I'm too hot to care"



    and plenty more. I'm sure you'll see me make spelling errors but I can assure you that my spelling skills are MUCH better than my typing skills. I think it boils down to how much a person reads honestly. I'm not a novel reader but I read a huge amount of magazines and other "short" documents and it becomes easier to tell when you've spelled a word incorrectly because the word doesn't look right.&lt;off topic&gt;



    Apple needs to define a line in Education and hold that line. It makes not sense to lose money trying to get marketshare. Education is important but so is knowing if it's a battle worth fighting for.
  • Reply 6 of 14
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    [quote]Originally posted by Telomar:

    <strong>Sorry just going off topic a second.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    As Johnny Thunders said, "This song's called Born to Lose...but in your case it's Born too Loose."



    Back to topic. I agree to some extent...but they have appointed people into their education sales and they basically have failed. In my opinion they should be more aggressive with pricing and integrating the total "Switch" philosophy into their sales pitches to educators.



    Well, at least they'll always have the entertainment market...I see Macs everywhere in movies and TV...
  • Reply 7 of 14
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    [quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:

    <strong>



    Well, at least they'll always have the entertainment market...I see Macs everywhere in movies and TV...</strong><hr></blockquote> That's not a market for them. It's a paid for advertising
  • Reply 8 of 14
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    They're on the up again, now 14.53 0.41 / +2.91%
  • Reply 9 of 14
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong> That's not a market for them. It's a paid for advertising</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <a href="http://www.apple.com/hotnews/features/starringapple.html"; target="_blank">Indeed...</a>
  • Reply 10 of 14
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    I wonder if product placement really works? It must, or else Apple has wasted a lot of money.
  • Reply 11 of 14
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    [quote]Originally posted by Kecksy:

    <strong>I wonder if product placement really works? It must, or else Apple has wasted a lot of money.</strong><hr></blockquote> Believe me it does work. Whether Apple focuses too much on it is another matter. It often helps giving brands exclusive image. Bang&Olufsen fx used this method alot with great results and so have 100s of others
  • Reply 12 of 14
    [quote]Originally posted by Telomar:

    <strong>Sorry just going off topic a second.







    Don't take this personally but I'm just interested in this because I've seen the mistake being made increasingly often. Are American's confused about the difference between loose and lose because it is being taught incorrectly at school or have they just become increasingly blasé about spelling?



    I'm a lousy speller these days because I rely on spell checkers but I see that error a lot in American documents lately for some reason and I am just wondering what it is.



    The other one I notice, although this is the world over, is the tendency towards saying, "an 'istoric" where the h is dropped completely. Now I am sure this has come from "an 'our" but in that case the h is always silent, for instance you say, "The 'our". In history you wouldn't say, "The 'istory" it would (and does) make you sound as if you are a peasant who has come out of the English Middle Ages.



    I know a decade and beyond back hour was as it is now but in the past 3 - 5 years I have noticed increasingly people have adopted saying, "an 'istory" instead of "a history". They do it with some othe h words too but for now they escape me. It seems to be people are just trying to teach themself the simple rule that you ignore the h following a "a" if a vowel follows it. I'd really have to wonder what they'd say with something like heuristics where the h is more pronounced.



    I also hate to think what they'd do if they needed to speak arabic, which has 3 differnt H sounds in speech.



    Anyway back on topic for a fraction of a second. I can't really say I am too surprised people don't have a lot of confidence in Apple. Although they may be generating the second highest profit of a consumer computer manufacturer their method of doing business really doesn't encourage investors and analysts. Apple really needs to develop some solid business plans and advertise it more aggressively, particularly with respect to enterprise and educational markets.



    I believe Apple is among the worst companies at advertising its products. If I wasn't familiar with their products I really would never buy them or even give them a look and most people simply aren't familiar with Apple products.



    [ 10-11-2002: Message edited by: Telomar ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Cool, thanks for the English lesson! I was starting to miss English class. You should be a teacher, you are so inspiring and quick!
  • Reply 13 of 14
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Often I wonder if people even really notice that some guy is using a Mac when they are watching a movie.



    24 was interesting because all the good guys used Macs and the evil people used PCs. So if you want to be a traitor and evil you buy a PC or heroic and good you buy a Mac?



    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>



    Cool, thanks for the English lesson! I was starting to miss English class. You should be a teacher, you are so inspiring and quick!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> I used to hate English. I honestly believe it to be among the most pointless subjects I ever studied. Once I was out of primary school I never learnt anything useful I just did literary analysis. I learnt more about English in Latin than I ever did in my English classes.
  • Reply 14 of 14
    mrmistermrmister Posts: 1,095member
    Yes people do notice.



    Especially Microsoft people. My friends who work there can't believe it.
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