CIA responds to 'Vault 7' hack leak, WikiLeaks claims only 1% of what it holds was publish...

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The CIA has issued a statement criticizing the massive WikiLeaks reveal of its iPhone, macOS, Android, and Windows hacking department, amidst international outcry about the leak -- and tens of thousands more documents are allegedly on the way.




In a statement provided to AppleInsider and other news venues, the CIA refuses to comment on the authenticity of the WikiLeaks data dump, or "the status of any investigation into the source of the documents."

However, despite not making a comment, the agency continues with three talking points.

The CIA notes that it's purview remains to be "the first line of defense in protecting this country from enemies abroad" and notes that "America deserves nothing less." Citing legal prohibitions, the agency also reiterates that it is prohibited from conducting electronic surveillance in the U.S.

"The American public should be deeply trouble by any WikiLeaks disclosure designed to damage the Intelligence Community's ability to protect America against terrorists and other adversaries," the CIA emphasizes in its third point. "Such disclosures not only jeopardize U.S. personnel and operations, but also equip our adversaries with tools and information to do us harm."

While the CIA won't comment on the status of the investigation, according to a report from ABC citing sources familiar with the matter, the FBI is examining the potential sources and the methods of the leaks.

AppleInsider can confirm based on discussions with people familiar with the matter that the Department of Homeland Security is getting involved in the investigation as well.

International response

In China, the Chinese Foreign Ministry is urging the US to stop "stop listening in, monitoring, stealing secrets and internet hacking" against the country. China has a deep in-country internet monitoring system, as well as the so-called "Great Firewall of China."

The German government is examining the first batch of data as well. In a statement, the German Foreign Ministry states that it is attempting to authenticate the documents.

"We will initiate an investigation if we see evidence of concrete criminal acts or specific perpetrators," said the German consulate's office. "We're looking at it very carefully."

Previously, documents were released by WikiLeaks showing that the NSA had intercepted communications by German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

WikiLeaks promises more, still holding back actively weaponized exploits

WikiLeaks promises that the "Vault 7" release from Tuesday is only the beginning of the disclosures.

WikiLeaks has released less than 1% of its #Vault7 series in its part one publication yesterday 'Year Zero'.

-- WikiLeaks (@wikileaks)
A non-scientific poll conducted by WikiLeaks on Twitter shows 57 percent of its followers want the group to coordinate with technology companies, including Apple, to fix attack vectors faster. About 36 percent say that the tech companies are the problem, with 7 percent having a more nuanced view of the issue, roughly balanced between controlled disclosures to tech companies and calls from voters seeking WikiLeaks itself to be shut down.




On Tuesday, 8,761 files were released by WikiLeaks alleging that the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency has a dedicated iOS, Windows, and Android exploit team, and failed to keep the attack vectors under lock and key. Later on Tuesday, Apple noted that "many" of the attacks had already been dealt with in the course of updating iOS.

A closer look at the Apple exploits showed a great deal of effort put into attacking Apple gear, but found what has been disclosed so far to be rudimentary, non-functional, or proof-of-concept only.
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 1,722member
    National security blah blah blah... Who watches the watchers?
    rob53
  • Reply 2 of 27
    The CIA's being taking down for it's (illegal) domestic operations. If you can stomach Alex Jone's terrible interview style of constant interruptions (many can't), there's a Steve Pieczenik YouTube up late yesterday...
    cali
  • Reply 3 of 27
    Russian moles in the CIA. Wikileaks is a Russian GRU operation.
    mdriftmeyerradster360
  • Reply 4 of 27
    adm1adm1 Posts: 839member
    "In China, the Chinese Foreign Ministry is urging the US to stop "stop listening in, monitoring, stealing secrets and internet hacking" against the country. China has a deep in-country internet monitoring system, as well as the so-called "Great Firewall of China." "

    so? China can do what it likes in its own country. It's the fact that the USA feels it has a god given right to spy on and police the entire world. Even so called friendly countries; UK, Germany etc.
    bloggerblogleavingthebiggcali
  • Reply 5 of 27
    bloggerblogbloggerblog Posts: 1,761member
    So the CIA would like privacy to only apply to them.
    leavingthebiggSpamSandwichcaliStrangeDayslongpathkamilton
  • Reply 6 of 27
    dws-2dws-2 Posts: 177member
    adm1 said:
    "In China, the Chinese Foreign Ministry is urging the US to stop "stop listening in, monitoring, stealing secrets and internet hacking" against the country. China has a deep in-country internet monitoring system, as well as the so-called "Great Firewall of China." "

    so? China can do what it likes in its own country. It's the fact that the USA feels it has a god given right to spy on and police the entire world. Even so called friendly countries; UK, Germany etc.
    I'd be shocked if all countries didn't spy on each other. Other countries' statements are more of a public relations things than real outrage. China in particular (and unsurprisingly) seems to be spying on the U.S. in every way it can.
    ronnjSnively
  • Reply 7 of 27
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 1,439member
    dysamoria said:
    National security blah blah blah... Who watches the watchers?
    National security, yes it is most important. Who watches watchers ? That is tricky. There should be strict law that anyone who works for intelligence(FBI,CIA,etc) uses tools at their disposal for their personal benefit or satisfaction put to death. This way, watchers will watch themselves and avoid temptation of misuse against public they swore to serve and protect.
    edited March 2017
  • Reply 8 of 27
    jSnivelyjSnively Posts: 324administrator
    As with all these threads, we think the conversation around it is important, but we are heavily monitoring and moderating what gets posted. Please keep it on topic and avoid throwing partisan politics and political attacks at each other. As always, remain civil.

    We managed to have two good threads yesterday, let's not blow that streak. If things get too out of hand we will close the thread.
    Soliicoco3SpamSandwich
  • Reply 9 of 27
    ronnronn Posts: 255member
    adm1 said:
    "In China, the Chinese Foreign Ministry is urging the US to stop "stop listening in, monitoring, stealing secrets and internet hacking" against the country. China has a deep in-country internet monitoring system, as well as the so-called "Great Firewall of China." "

    so? China can do what it likes in its own country. It's the fact that the USA feels it has a god given right to spy on and police the entire world. Even so called friendly countries; UK, Germany etc.
    Everyone spies on everyone else. Even on its allies. Germany, the UK, Israel etc. spies on its allies so it's not just the US. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Domestic spying probably goes overboard, but it's a necessity. The right balance needs to be established.
  • Reply 10 of 27
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 1,847member
    Russian moles in the CIA. Wikileaks is a Russian GRU operation.
    I'm beginning to think this is true. 

    Yet at the same time, I think there are legitimate concerns about the 3-letter agencies abusing their authority after 9-11. 

    These are difficult issues to balance, but it would be easier if 50% of the major parties weren't entirely corrupt. Fifty percent of the time, our government is corrupt every time. 
    SoliSpamSandwichjSnively
  • Reply 11 of 27
    rob53rob53 Posts: 1,880member
    Tell me how WikiLeaks obtained documents that should only have been on classified systems not available to any unclassified networks? If the CIA actually maintained their hacking data on an open, unclassified network, then it's their own fault they were hacked. It's very difficult to hack a legitimate classified system. Even though encrypted classified data is allowed over unclassified lines (at least it used to be, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_encryption_systems), the encryption systems in use are not things WikiLeaks should be able to hack into. I don't know how the CIA mishandles their data but I wouldn't put it past our government IT people to have mismanaged some systems that allowed this obviously classified information to be put into a position to be hacked.
    longpath
  • Reply 12 of 27
    georgie01georgie01 Posts: 155member
    jSnively said:
    ... avoid throwing partisan politics ... at each other. 
    I hope this comment is a sign of change at Appleinsider, considering the sometimes very partisan articles.
    edited March 2017 rbelizebuzdots
  • Reply 13 of 27
    georgie01georgie01 Posts: 155member
    I haven't heard Alex Jones, but to be fair, nearly every news outlet generates 'fake' news regularly. Anytime there is bias there is fake news, in that it gives a biased interpretation of facts. It's just that more 'respectable' news outlets are sometimes better at disguising their bias, or perhaps better said that less mainstream news outlets don't care to try and hide their bias.

    It's wise to hear from all sources since it's not always obvious where the bias is.
    edited March 2017 SpamSandwichrbelize
  • Reply 14 of 27
    bsimpsenbsimpsen Posts: 237member
    wood1208 said:
    dysamoria said:
    National security blah blah blah... Who watches the watchers?
    National security, yes it is most important. Who watches watchers ? That is tricky. There should be strict law that anyone who works for intelligence(FBI,CIA,etc) uses tools at their disposal for their personal benefit or satisfaction put to death. This way, watchers will watch themselves and avoid temptation of misuse against public they swore to serve and protect.
    The problem with executing people is that we've yet to devise a foolproof system for determining guilt or innocence. Knowing that you could be falsely accused of espionage, perhaps due to a fault in a system or false accusations by nefarious or misinformed people, would you take the job? And, if you're willing to put your life on the line in service of the greater good, what happens if you someday believe your organization is working against the greater good? Disconcerting as it may be, I think it's both unavoidable and sometimes beneficial that people are leaky.

    I don't (and may never) know enough about this situation to ascertain the costs and benefits of the leak. I can only hope that we make the best of what has happened.

    Nuthin's easy.
    edited March 2017
  • Reply 15 of 27
    rwesrwes Posts: 151member
    Citing legal prohibitions, the agency also reiterates that it is prohibited from conducting electronic surveillance in the U.S.
    At the risk of sounding like a tin-foil hat lunatic (not the sane ones), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_the_United_States; Strange Things (Netflix), anyone?

    Sicario: https://youtu.be/Vi46v-Lru60

    "CIA cant operate within US borders w/o a domestic agency attached" Those who know, does that limit apply to electronic surveillance as well?

    And I mean, what are they going to say, "Yes we monitor US citizens, when necessary, through legal channels such as joint task forces by providing support to other agencies (FBI/NSA) when needed..." ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Edit/disclaimer: I don't blindly believe everything I read online, so even the wikipedia material, Strange Things (of course) and anything else for that matter, is not to be taken as 100% fact.
    edited March 2017
  • Reply 16 of 27
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 2,891administrator
    georgie01 said:
    jSnively said:
    ... avoid throwing partisan politics ... at each other. 
    I hope this comment is a sign of change at Appleinsider, considering the sometimes very partisan articles.
    To be clear, we have several different writers, with different political affiliations. There will be what you're calling "partisan" articles.

    However, we don't use it as a cudgel against each other which is what the forums devolve into sometimes. That's what we're talking about.
    edited March 2017 rweslolliver
  • Reply 17 of 27
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 4,940member

    wood1208 said:
    dysamoria said:
    National security blah blah blah... Who watches the watchers?
    National security, yes it is most important. Who watches watchers ? That is tricky. There should be strict law that anyone who works for intelligence(FBI,CIA,etc) uses tools at their disposal for their personal benefit or satisfaction put to death. This way, watchers will watch themselves and avoid temptation of misuse against public they swore to serve and protect.
    Put to death? Yesterday you wanted leakers *and their families* executed, and today you want agents executed. Again, are you serious? That would not be the United States...perhaps China or N. Korea or some other place with no regard for human life -- but not the United States. 
    apple jockey
  • Reply 18 of 27
    jSnivelyjSnively Posts: 324administrator
    Let's keep this on topic, please.

    I've deleted 5 or 6 comments already talking about Alex Jones. This is not a thread about Alex Jones. His name was only mentioned in a single comment as an example of an interview style. Let's leave it at that. 
    SpamSandwichlolliver
  • Reply 19 of 27
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,148member

    So if the CIA can be hacked and document stolen does this make anyone feel good they can do the following

    "the first line of defense in protecting this country from enemies abroad" and notes that "America deserves nothing less." Citing legal prohibitions, the agency also reiterates that it is prohibited from conducting electronic surveillance in the U.S."

    They may not be hacking and listening to Americans within our Boarder, but their lack of security just opened the door to the rest of the world. Why in the first place would they have this information which could be access from a network from out side the organization.

    edited March 2017
  • Reply 20 of 27
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,066member
    seriously how are wikileaks getting this stuff?

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