US judge asks for criminal investigation into Uber's alleged self-driving IP theft from Wa...

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A lawsuit against Uber by Alphabet's self-driving unit, Waymo, has been referred to the U.S. Department of Justice for an investigation of possible theft of trade secrets, escalating the battle between the two companies.




In referring the case, U.S. District Judge William Alsup also granted Waymo a partial injunction against Uber's self-driving program, and rejected an Uber motion to have the civil case continue in private arbitration, Reuters reported. The injunction decision is under a temporary seal.

Waymo -- previously a project within Google -- has accused one of its former workers, Anthony Levandowski, of stealing more than 14,000 secret files before leaving. He then founded the self-driving truck firm Otto, which was bought by Uber just months later. The stolen information is allegedly being used in Uber's LIDAR system.

Uber hasn't denied that Levandowski took files from Waymo, but insists that they weren't used in its technology and never even made their way over to the company.

Waymo previously asked for an injunction that would prevent Uber from using any trade secrets and block Levandowski from work on LIDAR. Uber, however, had already temporarily sidelined Levandowski and announced it was amenable to an injuction formalizing the situation.

For his part, Levandowski has pleaded Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination and refused to testify, something Alsup complained is making the case difficult for both Uber and Waymo.

Waymo is often considered at the forefront of self-driving car development, having done research for much longer, including tests on public roads. Recently it expanded a trial ridehailing service in Phoenix.

Uber was actually first to use self-driving cars in ridehailing, but has since run into numerous problems, most infamously having to temporarily shut down efforts in San Francisco because it didn't have permit, and later suspend tests in three states because of a crash in Arizona.

Apple's self-driving program is only just beginning public tests, using modified Lexus RX450h SUVs. The company is in fact trying to hush public disclosures.

Long-term goals are unknown, though the company is expected to decide later this year -- if it hasn't already -- whether to resume work on an Apple-designed car, or simply partner with one or more existing automakers.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 6
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,136member
    Marks the overdue end to this corporation. The CEO either steps down and takes full responsibility or Uber slowly is served death by a thousand cuts.
  • Reply 2 of 6
    wonkothesanewonkothesane Posts: 1,214member
    The biggest challenge for self driving cars personally I don't see in tech. But in answering questions like: your self driving car killed someone in an accident. Who is responsible? Or: in an emergency situation the car has to "choose" to either run over a child XOR an adult....
    cases that now are handled on a "by case" rationale ex post now need to be formalized ex ante. Tough one. 
    longpathcali
  • Reply 3 of 6
    calicali Posts: 3,495member
    "Theft of trade secrets"

    history repeating itself? I almost thought it was Giggle stealing from Uber but looks like Carma.

    would love it if these companies drove each other into the ground and Apple emerged with an innovative service/car.
  • Reply 4 of 6
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,226member
    The biggest challenge for self driving cars personally I don't see in tech. But in answering questions like: your self driving car killed someone in an accident. Who is responsible? Or: in an emergency situation the car has to "choose" to either run over a child XOR an adult....
    cases that now are handled on a "by case" rationale ex post now need to be formalized ex ante. Tough one. 
    I have been saying this a long time, what will be the prime directive of the car, will it save the passengers of the car at all cost or does it default to something less. Do you want to be in a car that might try killing you because someone else did something wrong or stupid.
  • Reply 5 of 6
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,031member
    maestro64 said:
    The biggest challenge for self driving cars personally I don't see in tech. But in answering questions like: your self driving car killed someone in an accident. Who is responsible? Or: in an emergency situation the car has to "choose" to either run over a child XOR an adult....
    cases that now are handled on a "by case" rationale ex post now need to be formalized ex ante. Tough one. 
    I have been saying this a long time, what will be the prime directive of the car, will it save the passengers of the car at all cost or does it default to something less. Do you want to be in a car that might try killing you because someone else did something wrong or stupid.
    Wouldn't the "prime directive" be to get you too your destination efficiently, avoiding delays.  Whether it's traffic, road construction, hitting a building, going over a bridge or running over a bicyclist I would imagine the car's programming is to avoid them all, much as a live driver would if he were as attentive. What kind of scenario are you envisioning where efficient routing and avoiding delays of any type is not the goal?
    edited May 2017
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