Apple TV?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I've heard that Apple's partnership with Panasonic is not limited to the camera division, but also includes their consumer television products as well. A television with an intergrated computer seems the logical next step.

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  • Reply 1 of 15
    ensoniqensoniq Posts: 128member
    [quote]I've heard that Apple's partnership with Panasonic is not limited to the camera division, but also includes their consumer television products as well. <hr></blockquote>



    Let's start at the beginning... What partnership does Apple have with Panasonic?



    Please give a URL to any legitimate news item that acknowledges this partnership. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Ensoniq ]</p>
  • Reply 2 of 15
    wwworkwwwork Posts: 140member
  • Reply 3 of 15
    [quote]Originally posted by Ensoniq:

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    Let's start at the beginning... What partnership does Apple have with Panasonic?



    Please give a URL to any legitimate news item that acknowledges this partnership. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Ensoniq ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <a href="http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/apr/07panasonic.html"; target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/apr/07panasonic.html</a>;



    And...Regarding the previous Apple TV...that was more a computer with a TV card in it, which most computers can still do today. This would be a television with a internet or interactive computer system on board. Internet based delivery of programing versus cable, broadcast or DSS. It's just a thought. Television is the revolution !!
  • Reply 4 of 15
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    yes. lets have apple pour money down the drain. web tv here we come.
  • Reply 5 of 15
    tulkastulkas Posts: 3,741member
    [quote]Originally posted by illume Gallery:

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    <a href="http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/apr/07panasonic.html"; target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/apr/07panasonic.html</a>;



    And...Regarding the previous Apple TV...that was more a computer with a TV card in it, which most computers can still do today. This would be a television with a internet or interactive computer system on board. Internet based delivery of programing versus cable, broadcast or DSS. It's just a thought. Television is the revolution !!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    This is already possible for anyone with the interest. Either get a set-top box for the TV or a TV card for the computer. I don't see as a step in Apple partnership with panasonic.



    What I do see as the next inevitable step for Firewire, be it from Panasonic or others, is to integrate FW throughout all consumer electronics. Firewire onboard TV's, VCR's, DVD decks, CD players, MP3 players, car stereos, receivers, camcorders, cameras, portables, and others would allow incredible flexability and ease of set up for consumers.



    I used to sell electronics and I can't begin to tell you how clueless some people are in setting up their electronic equipment. It's not the consumers fault entirely. Buyers are expected to weave their own web of RCA cables, S-Video, iLink, proprietry interconnects and more. Almost none of these allow devices to be aware of others, unless they are from the same manufaturer and os the same model classification. Firewire integration would allow the amp to know exactly what is connected to it. It would allow you to hook your iPod into you car stereo without a digital to analog converter. Same with connecting your camcorder to you TV, digtal-to-digital intelligent connections.



    If every device acted as a repeater as well as a node, you could create a firewire network throughout your house. Firewire also would allow devices to attain an IP for whatever reason as FW supports TCP/IP.



    No other interface standard can replace all other interfaces and provide the level of integration and functionality as FW can. RCA ain't digital, USB doesn't support peer to peer and would therefore require a PC on the chain.



    Firewire integration across the digital device spectrum is the natural next step. I have long wondered why Sony, a co-holder of FW patents, has not put FW on their entire line. Mebbe Panasonic doing it first will give them the kick in the ass they need to get it done.
  • Reply 6 of 15
    wwworkwwwork Posts: 140member
    [quote]Originally posted by illume Gallery:

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    Television is the revolution !!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What a depressing thought. Do you know that you burn less calories watching television than while sleeping? Watching TV is spectacularly inactive.
  • Reply 7 of 15
    [quote]Originally posted by wwwork:

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    What a depressing thought. Do you know that you burn less calories watching television than while sleeping? Watching TV is spectacularly inactive.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Maybe I need to explain the Television Revolution. Many people only respone to what they see on tv, and as you said.."TV is spectaculary inactive". Much of what they are responding to is commercial hype and social untruths. This is the battle ground..to give people information abut the value of life and all of it's inspiring activities..to motive people to act and not just become passive viewers. This is what is happening with new television...for a small amount of money..many more stories are being told..we are learning more about, and from, each other. Join the revolution and tell your stories, inspire someone...you have the power...you have a Mac (Smile) !!!
  • Reply 8 of 15
    [quote]Originally posted by illume Gallery:

    <strong> A television with an intergrated computer seems the logical next step.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Aw GeeeeZ! Not again.



    Gateway tried this with Pentium 2's a few years ago. Back during the Multimedia parroting that was so rampant during the early and mid 90's. And I believe it was panasonic that was the partner company on that one also. They failed miserably. Nobody wanted to pay $2500 for a 35" TV. BTW TV's haven't made good displays for computers since the Commodore. Kind of the fatal flaw of the whole game console (xbox) as a home computer idea.



    Panasonic products are OK. But, if they ever fail you can forget getting anything repaired. Panasonic is notorius of that. funny thing is that Quazar sells the same products with a different lable and has great repair service by compairison.



    [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Plague Bearer ]</p>
  • Reply 9 of 15
    [quote]Originally posted by Plague Bearer:

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    Gateway tried this with Pentium 2's a few years ago. Back during the Multimedia parroting that was so rampant during the early and mid 90's. And I believe it was panasonic that was the partner company on that one also. They failed miserably. Nobody wanted to pay $2500 for a 35" TV. BTW TV's haven't made good displays for computers since the Commodore. Kind of the fatal flaw of the whole game console (xbox) as a home computer idea.



    [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Plague Bearer ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    TVs monitors don't make good computer screens..I agree. But Apple's new Computer flat screens makes a good television monitor. This is just an idea that I hope someone gets right. I respect companies that at least try to serve us better, versus the ones like Enron, Worldcom etc., that just want to rip us off.
  • Reply 10 of 15
    cowofwarcowofwar Posts: 98member
    Wait a second. You're saying this new technology will let me watch television on a mac?!?!?



    /me looks at his powerpc 5200 with tv card...



    AMAZING...but not.



    Seriously, TV is crap. Does anyone watch it anymore? Anything of value I just download and watch on the computer.



    And when I get really bold I plug the vcr into my video in on my pc and just watch...



    If Apple ever made something like this I'd wave goodbye to their cash reserves. I mean, if it was a such a great idea then why isn't WebTV popular? Why does it no longer exist?
  • Reply 11 of 15
    cobracobra Posts: 253member
    Samsung is a partner but thats mainly for LCD flat screens.
  • Reply 12 of 15
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    Back before I had much exposure to business partnerships I might have bought into an announcement that Apple and Panasonic were partnering on something...but here's the deal:



    Business partnerships hardly ever work for ANY amount of time.....in any business. I've worked on projects where multiple firms have been made to work together by the client and there's always a tremendous amount of friction. That's in an honest-to-goodness working side-by-side situation. The bosses all wanted control and half the time was spent coordinating and reviewing goals and all of that tremendously costly bullshit.



    When I read in the trades about partnerships these days I quietly roll my eyes and move on. Quite often the partnerships are ceremonial, symbolic partnerships that define these companies positions. Other times they both happen to be moving in the same direction for a brief period of time and they decide to combine efforts to get a little free advertising in news articles.



    Partnerships are marriages of convenience that rarely bear fruit.
  • Reply 13 of 15
    Does anyone remember that Sony use to only make TV equipment...I here they make some pretty good computers. My main thought when creating this thread was that Apple made such a biig deal about the MPEG4 payment situation. They must know something about the mass potential of MPEG4. With streaming MPEG4 video and a DSL connection I believe full screen viewing is possible. Apple tried to create a Apple TV system with Quicktime...but not alot of content providers to speak of. I want my Apple TV !!!
  • Reply 14 of 15
    rodukroduk Posts: 706member
    I think I'm right in saying that awhile ago Steve Jobs said something along the lines of 'people turn their brains on to use a computer and off to watch a television. The two won't converge'.
  • Reply 15 of 15
    Steve Jobs hates TV.



    It won't happen.



    (lock)
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